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801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 01:39:48 PM

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.

@stonehedge,

Thank you for looking at the problems from a miner/pool ops perspective & finally addressing my/their concerns.

Yes, stealing is a strong word & one I don't like to use any more than you like to hear it - but it is what it is. When something is taken from someone else without their knowledge or consent, it is stealing - weather intentional or not, the word is the same. I think it is also worth mentioning that the amounts taken are not so much the issue, it is the percentage - 40%, which is a large amount, that was the bigger issue.

The rollout of thrones has been pretty shambolic from beginning to this point in time tbh, but I am happy that someone on the crowncoin team has finally decided to address the issues instead of trying to make excuses or posting abusive comments - & for that I commend you. Hopefully others on your team will follow suit.

I look forward to seeing the thread OP, the website & gitrepo updated with clear information about the state of play regarding thrones so that everyone who wishes to get involved will fully understand what software to use & how to use it. When this has been done & I see that any coins requested to be returned are done so, I will consider pointing my hash back at CRW & supporting the network again.

One of the problems we have at the moment is that we have several devs who work part time on the project and indeed many of us have day jobs that have lead to things not being as organised as they should be.

It is my responsibility to ensure that this improves.
802  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 11:56:49 AM
Crowncoin Project Update 05/07/2016



What are Thrones?

Thrones are paying nodes on the Crowncoin network.  Throne operators will earn 40% of the Crowncoin block reward in return for providing services via their Thrones.


​How do I get a Throne?

In order to operate a Throne 10,000CRW collateral is required.  Thrones along with guides on how to set one up will be released in the coming days.

If you can't wait, you're welcome to compile and set up a Throne from source if you know what you are doing.


How much do they pay?​ 

A forecast for Throne finances can be found here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x4KjbxtqGPKghajJb3scJBL6ED3B_CCBbYES6N6CR28/edit#gid=0

Throne payments are currently underway.  Every time a miner who has updated to the latest version solves a block, 40% of the block reward will be paid to a Throne.  Enforcement will not be turned on until the majority of the network is on the latest version.  Please update using the latest Github build.  Windows binaries will follow shortly.


What will thrones do?​

Thrones, apart from strengthening the Crowncoin network, will form the basis of a two tier service network.  An exciting announcement about the first planned service for the Throne network will be made in the coming weeks.  The Crowncoin team believes that the first planned service will propel Crowncoin to the forefront of altcoin R&D.


New Team Members

Stonehedge has joined the team to help with project management and PR. Chaositec has joined the team as part of the Development Team and will be working on improving the quality and timeliness of wallet builds and will also be setting up some useful applications relating to Thrones.


What next?

A roadmap detailing the next steps will be published on 6th July 2016.
803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 11:49:17 AM
Second part of this is... how is it stealing if we are giving it away to the community in bounties...

Sorry, but that's a pathetic excuse.

If your bank manager took 40% of your account balance & said the same thing - would that make it OK with you? Of course not.

Stop trying to make excuses for your mistakes, if it was a mistake, which I'm not sure it was anymore.

I personally don't intend to make excuses. 

We are we we are.  The best I can do right now is to take steps to stop anybody updating without knowledge of throne payments and offer a refund to any miners who feel they were misinformed.

At the moment, I believe that the majority if not all groups using the new version were aware.  I don't think it is right or fair to accuse of us of deliberately stealing. 

Updates will follow today.
804  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 11:33:52 AM
And for the record, if there are any miners or pools out there who downloaded the update without being notified about the new node payments then please get in touch with me directly and I will refund you for the blocks that you solved.
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 11:31:04 AM
..the only miners and pools to have upgraded have done so VOLUNTARILY and in support of the project.

That's not true at all.

Many, if not most pools & miners compile their wallets from source & there is absolutely no mention of "VOLUNTARILY" joining any project either on the github page, in the OP of this thread or the website - meaning anyone who compiles their wallets from github are having 40% of their mining earnings taken from them without their consent or knowledge.

This should have been made clear before it's release on mainet. So no, nobody is voluntarily giving you 40% of their mining income, you are stealing it.

How do you propose we rectify this?

You do what you should have done in the first place & as I explained earlier:

Remove it from mainet so that miners & pools are not having 40% of their income creamed from their income without their knowledge.
Put a clear notice on the OP of this thread, the webste & the github page explaining what will happen when the latest wallets are released to the public & include a clear & precise guide on how to activate the new wallets before they are released on mainet with a date of when this will happen.
Return the coins stolen to their rightful owners.
Apologise to everyone affected.

You do realise that we contacted miners and pools directly to offer them the update?

I appreciate that there is a chance that somebody has downloaded the update without being aware of the new block reward structure and I will address that as a matter of urgency but you really are over dramatizing things.

806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 11:06:39 AM
..the only miners and pools to have upgraded have done so VOLUNTARILY and in support of the project.

That's not true at all.

Many, if not most pools & miners compile their wallets from source & there is absolutely no mention of "VOLUNTARILY" joining any project either on the github page, in the OP of this thread or the website - meaning anyone who compiles their wallets from github are having 40% of their mining earnings taken from them without their consent or knowledge.

This should have been made clear before it's release on mainet. So no, nobody is voluntarily giving you 40% of their mining income, you are stealing it.

How do you propose we rectify this?
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
When the Windows QT is ready we'll update the OP with all builds.

808  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 05, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
If a miner doesn't want to pay thrones, they don't have to update their software at the moment.  We have no plans to turn on enforcement until there has been an entirely level playing field for some weeks.

Obviously we will enforce throne payments in the future but at the moment the only miners and pools to have upgraded have done so VOLUNTARILY and in support of the project.

809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 04, 2016, 11:40:52 AM
Can you elaborate why you are skeptical about Thrones so that I can try to address your concerns?
810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 04, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
Yup, apologies for the delay.  The person I asked to help didn't deliver which meant that I had to try to work it out myself.

I don't want to tell people how to set up a throne if the instructions are incorrect.

My thrones have been running for 1.5 days, not three weeks.

I understand your concerns but this scenario was not intentional. Payments wouldn't be happening if pools and miners hadn't updated to the version to pay thrones.  They have done this voluntarily and there was nothing we could have done to stop them doing this.

811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 04, 2016, 10:09:21 AM
If anybody is very keen to set up a Throne you can follow this excellent guide.

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/taos-masternode-setup-guide-for-dummies-updated.2680/

All you need to do is replace the word DASH with Crowncoin and the word masternode with throne and instead of using 1000 Dash, use 10,000 CRW.  This is because thrones use the same 2nd tier implementation as DASH.  If it works well, why change it?

I am going to produce a Crowncoin version of the guide tonight for publishing tomorrow.  I'm hopeful that we will finally have a windows QT build before then too.

812  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 04, 2016, 05:43:09 AM
So, I'm seeing 8 thrones listed, most of those are owned by one person. Those 8 thrones are now getting, what was it - 40% of every mined block?  Meaning every miner is now earning 40% less for mining while 1 or 2 people are getting paid for running throne nodes?.....

"Hey everyone, we now have thrones that pay 40% of miners proceeds to you - but we won't tell you how to set one up."

Great.  Well worth mining atm then.....

Please don't be so cynical.

I am running 5 of the 8 thrones.  All coins that I receive between when I set them up 1.5 days ago and when we launch them properly will be GIVEN AWAY.  I'm not the only person who has publicly agreed to this.

We have not posted how to run a throne because none of us know how to set one up well enough to tell somebody else how to do it.

The dev is currently at sea on a boat with limited internet access and his opportunities to write guides and work on code will be restricted for a few days.

Having said that, he has managed to write a guide that I am hoping to test and publish within the next few hours.
813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 03, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
Right, I set up five thrones yesterday and they are all receiving the correct block reward payment.

I think it is time to go full steam ahead to get other people up and running with thrones and to encourage everybody to update to the latest version.

Sadly we are having a few problems compiling the QT version.  Hopefully this will be sorted in the next day or so (maybe sooner) but in the meantime, people are very welcome to compile from source.

Would anybody be interested in a bounty for writing a guide on how to compile from source and set up a throne?
814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 03, 2016, 09:19:55 AM

Does your .conf look like this?

   rpcuser=***
   rpcpassword=****
   listen=1
   server=1
   daemon=1
   externalip=149.56.15.75
   throne=1
   throneprivkey=***********************

Nope. Mine doesn't have the externalip line in it, I never saw any mention of that anywhere - I presume it should be my IP then?

Yes, the IP of the machine hosting your Throne.
815  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: July 02, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
Throne payments coming through ok to my test throne.  Just updating four others to see if they will work.  Looking good so far.

Any throne payments that I receive before we have posted binaries will be donated to bounty funds.

In the meantime, please could people compile from source and run a throne and let us know how it goes?
816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: June 16, 2016, 07:01:50 AM
The crw merged mining function was taken from namecoin. Can you try connecting namecoin to your pool if it does the same?

Hi,

I have recently discovered that if I have CRW running on my sha port, it blocks UNO and MYR from generating blocks. As soon as I disabled CRW, they began creating blocks again...

Is there a known conflict with these coins? Is there some conflict with chainid's or something?

Some insight would be great,

Thanks!

Is it known if this problem will be resolved?

Yes, this issue has been taken note of. It's one of the priority's for the dev team. We want as many Merge miners to mine crowncoin as we can, so this issue will be corrected. It would be super helpful if you could put some hash toward crowncoin and enforce the new linux client Cheesy


This still hasn't been fixed? After two months? No wonder merge mine pools don't add CRW. Miners won't mine CRW if it breaks their other coins either.

This should have been fixed within hours, not months.

Is this for some particular pool software? I merge mine CRW, MYR and UNO in my personal p2pool, and haven't had any trouble hitting UNO and MYR blocks.

I want to take responsibility to solve this problem but I need some help understanding exactly what the problem is.  I don't know the history.  How can it be recreated?  What needs to change?
817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: June 15, 2016, 01:02:09 PM
Not a huge deal, but the Github link in the OP seems to be outdated.

Holy shit, that is a big deal!  Looking into it now.
818  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: June 14, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Ok...next steps for me.

There is going to be GUI provision within the wallet allowing you to control Thrones.  This should be ready in the next day  or so.  Once this is done I'm going to arrange for the builds to me made available.

Once the builds are available we can start contacting people to ask them to update.

While this is happening I am going to run some more Throne tests, this time concentrating on Start-Many and cold throne setup.

Whilst we give exchanges, miners and pools a few weeks to update to the latest client I'll finalise the guides on how to set up thrones and we can start building the network up ready for enforcement to be turned on in the near future.

Whilst all this is going on, it'd be great if the community could have a discussion about the future of the Throne network.  Once the Throne network is growing and paying out, there is a real opportunity to provide services using it.  Similar to how Dash masternodes provide support for Instant X and Darksend amongst other things.

I like the general idea that Thrones could provide services relating to support trade, IPR and business agreements in the future.  Does anybody have any suggestions for possible services that  CrownCoin  could provide?
819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: June 14, 2016, 06:05:48 AM
One thing that I have noticed is that my thrones, despite being active full nodes, can't see other thrones when you run a throne count.

I think this is to be expected before the network has adopted the new wallet but I don't understand the ins ands outs of why.
820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW][SHA256] Crowncoin. Merged Mining | Time Stamping | Name Your Address on: June 14, 2016, 05:57:46 AM
I found this, not sure if they are still active though

http://pool.syscoin.org
http://ispace.co.uk/coindetails/?coin=CRW



Does anyone know where the majority of crowncoins hash comes from? we'll need to contact them very soon

One of them is active.  On the small side but important nonetheless.  Lets build a list.
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