bump I'm trying to get my head around this auction to get a servicenode concept, or more specifically, how it will work in practice.
Testnet's still operational. Dunno whether there are any mn-test binaries still around but as for Linux: $ git clone https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin.git
$ cd spreadcoin
$ git checkout mn-test
$ qmake-qt
$ make
$ mkdir $HOME/.spreadtest2coin
$ cat <<EOF > $HOME/.spreadtest2coin/spreadcoin.conf
rpcuser=spreadcoinrpc
rpcpassword=made-up-password
listen=1
server=1
testnet=1
addnode=104.131.246.114:51678
addnode=5.9.56.229:51678
mnstart=1
EOF
$ ./spreadcoin-qt -testnet
Use the Mining tab to start mining - or PM me with your testnet wallet default address for some testnet coins. Wait for confirmation. Send an easy-to-recognise amount (e.g. 911.911911) of nSPR (testnet Spreadcoin) to your wallet's default address. WAIT FOR FULL CONFIRMATION. Check the Masternode tab (the mn-test codebase hails from Masternode times), look for your easy-to-recognise amount or look for an empty checkbox in the nearly-all-blank Control column --- it's just near-impossible to spot at first when scrolling but you'll get your eye in fairly quickly. Tick the checkbox. You have promoted your vanilla node to service node status. You may now return to watching TV (nose-picking optional, I feel). I'll now actually have to double-check that the address of the incumbent at #100 drops off the end when my 911.911911 clears and my node appears in the list. Yup, it did. Cheers Graham anyone wanna do some pre-round 3 testing, testing? I'll install Ubuntu in virtual box and have a go. is there a nSPR faucet somewhere? |
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It might be worth talking to georgem over at Spreadcoin to see if there is a possibility of a reciprocal arrangement where their service node network could provide storage services for this project.
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Hey, I'm in the pub and just read the last few pages. Am I an anarchist now? All this talk about government double standards...  |
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Dash don't need to publicise the launch problems...You and various XMR supporters are doing it for them!
@AdamWhite: I have never said you were a Monero supporter.
You have zero credibility. You just made me blow coffee out of my nose. You're funny. "You and various XMR supporters." I was careful to seperate you from XMR supporters in that statement. Since I took you off ignore several weeks ago I have seen you state quite clearly that you are not an XMR supporter and I phrased my statement to reflect this. EDIT: It didn't take me much looking back at your message history to show that you used to either hold XMR or support the project. What changed your mind about XMR if you don't mind me asking? I did hold XMR for a time and got out during the BCX drama. Why did you take me off ignore? (sorry about the coffee)  I only had you on ignore when you were filling the Dash thread up with posts so I could see the wood from the trees. I took you off ignore to see whether you had any new evidence to back up your opinions and catch up with the Dash scam accusation threads. |
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Morning all, just wanted to jump in and introduce myself. I've been following SpreadCoin for quite a bit now, though my main interest has been Dash. I've got an Android app that quite a few people are using called My Masternodes Pro, which is a masternode monitor and alert tool. I've also recently acquired the buydash.co.uk site. I've reconfigured large parts of buydash.co.uk to work with SpreadCoin and changed the look and feel to match. I understand that volumes, this early down the road, are pretty small. I am confident that this will change and would like to try and offer an easy way for people to buy SpreadCoin. I'd also be really keen to develop mobile apps / tools that may slot into SPR ServiceNode ownership, once everything starts moving properly in that area. I'd say the buyspreadcoin.co.uk site is pretty much finished and I want to spend a little while longer testing beofre launch, but I've uploaded a few screenshots in the meantime. http://imgur.com/a/Ekfr1Also, thanks very much to StoneHedge for help and advice. Certainly owe him a beer or two with the constant questions. Hey Newbie! I can't believe that you've managed to keep away from BCT for this long. Run away before the trolls drag you under!  Just to echo some of what calnaughtonjnr has just said, he has been a very active member of the Dark/Dash community and possesses considerable skills around masternode network monitoring and android app development. His Buydash site has been a success too. Nice to know you're keeping an eye on things and congratulations on being the first person (to my knowledge) to announce a third party service for Spreadcoin! I think we'd benefit from your masternode expertise when it comes to our service node network although be warned that they run on totally different code to the Dash masternodes and will have different metrics to monitor such as position in spread and QOS score etc... A discussion for the future! Dan |
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+1 georgem has enough on his plate just to get us up to speed at the moment, let alone the core work. Once we get there...then we can start building the launchpad It doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of planning going on in the background though. Its just that it is speculative planning at the moment. |
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Bittylicious might consider adding us when he have a bit more volume. Just another exciting day in Spreadland |
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Spreadcoin Project Update #1Given that it has been several weeks since the new ANN thread I thought I would summarise the current position of the project for the benefit of those who don't fancy reading 25 pages of discussion! As many of you know, Spreadcoin was originally launched as a Darkcoin fork (with a lot of code modification, particularly around how masternodes work) by another Lead Dev called Mr Spread. Mr Spread went AWOL at the beginning of the year and appears to have sold some if not all of his coins and is no longer in contact with anybody that we are aware of. Georgem has since taken over as lead developer on the project (with an honorary vacant position in recognition of Mr Spread's work). The Spreadcoin project has now taken a different form with a view to using service nodes to provide completely decentralised applications and services. The use cases for this model are numerous, with some being simple and some being complex. With the above preamble in mind, here are some bullet points for easy consumption - Georgem is currently working around the clock to scrutinise the original code as left by Mr Spread and to complete preparations for testnet testing of service nodes. There is a lot of work to be done and it takes time to interprete another developer's code. Georgem is working full time on this.
- Chaositec is leading efforts towards the significant amount of work required to update Spreadcoin to use the lastest Bitcoin Core code. The benefits to this are numerous and best described by a developer rather than a Communications minion like myself
- Community members have begun research into possible services and applications that could be provided by the service nodes. Some of these concepts are extremely exciting and several have never been seen in the Crypto scene before. As the possible ideas are separated from the impossible ones, they will be thrown open to the SPR community for discussion.
One of the most discussed concepts at the moment is using the service node network to incentivise people to run full Bitcoin Nodes in the form of a symbiotic relationship. We hope to be introducing some very exciting concepts to the SPR community very soon.
- Finally, I am just about to start a piece of work defining how best to ensure that the SPR community are kept up to date with progress, problems, successes, delays and plans etc. As a community, we all have different skills and experiences and to succeed we will need to draw upon those and communicate efficiently. We also have numerous tools at our disposal and must choose which ones we use wisely. Please watch this space.
In the meantime, while Georgem and Chaositec push on with their sizeable challenges and the other core team members work on their service model proposals, I hope to post fairly regular updates to this thread even if only to prove that I can type for a very long time about not very much - Dan / Stonehedge
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They still use Bigtable for most of the Google Apps but I assume it has come a long way since 2008.
I read that only 8 people are employed to manage Youtube at an operational level.
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You clearly have quite an exciting private life George  A simple question if I may? If SPR will be providing decentralized services using service nodes, wouldn't it be the case that the more nodes that are active and performing well the better? I love the idea of scoring based on QoS but if there is a hard coded limit to the maximum number of service nodes based on coin supply, doesn't that limit the distribution of the service node network? Wouldn't it be better to have 1,000 good snodes running than 800 good snodes in terms of overall network health? |
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Dash don't need to publicise the launch problems...You and various XMR supporters are doing it for them!
@AdamWhite: I have never said you were a Monero supporter.
You have zero credibility. You just made me blow coffee out of my nose. You're funny. "You and various XMR supporters." I was careful to seperate you from XMR supporters in that statement. Since I took you off ignore several weeks ago I have seen you state quite clearly that you are not an XMR supporter and I phrased my statement to reflect this. EDIT: It didn't take me much looking back at your message history to show that you used to either hold XMR or support the project. What changed your mind about XMR if you don't mind me asking? |
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+1 I don't want to be the annoying update heckler but I'd love to hear an update on progress and intended next milestones well, im working on getting the wallet up to bitcoin core level, but its takes time, besides, my job is at sea so the only time i can really do some work is when im home ... but making slow progress :-) added todo file to the spreadcoin core update process on github Its hard to code in bad weather  |
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I don't have enough details on how this instamine went because I was not attached to this coin at that moment. So it wouldn't be fair for me to call it a blatant scam.
But I wonder what stopped him from relaunching the coin fairly to make things right - and this was a very big reason to relaunch.
So i'm voting for 3rd option:
It was an accident, but it worked out well for him. No regrets.
The funny thing is that, instead of crying all bitcointalk, anyone can relaunch the coin NOW and do it better than Dash! The code is open source! For some people is easier crying, fudding and trolling instead of doing some work for themselves. The bottom line is that nobody knows if it was a scam launch or not. IMO, knowing many of the people around at launch and seeing the volume of coins changing hands for pennies in the early days I personally do not believe that it was a scam launch. It could have been a beneficial situation for lots of people, not just Evan whether the instamine was accidental or not. It happened. Its not going to go away. The glimpses of evidence that I do have indicate that it was a poor launch that could have benefitted anybody who was around at the time imo. I stand to be corrected but didn't the person who mined the most coins in the first few days get dropped by the team and dump his coins on an exchange for a few satoshis (relatively)? I forget his name... @AdamWhite: I have never said you were a Monero supporter. Still leaves you with two problems: PR and centralization. The PR problem is simple. Many will not touch an investment that they think had shady beginnings or continues to have someone associated with those shady beginnings at the helm. Dash will always have the same sort of stigma attached to it as baseball players from the Black Sox or home run hitters who needed to juice to pump their numbers (Sosa, McGwire, ect.). The media will have a field day with this issue if Dash ever saw a tenth of Bitcoin's marketcap as will supporters of other coins as long as the coin exist. The centralization problem centers on the fact that over 35% of the current emission was mined in the first two days. Many will claim that it was cheap and therefore redistributed, but anyone could also claim that these were instaminers moving funds in an attempt to sell the idea of a fair redistribution later--no one in fact can claim either is true, so it's a gut call--but what really hinders dash here is that many investors are not going to buy the story that the coin mistakenly mined 35% of the current value, didn't relaunch fairly when it seemed in their best interest to do so if they wanted to maintain a clean record, but later sold their coins on the cheap as so the coin could be fairly distributed. That's very far fetched when they could have had a provable fair launch and gotten rid of the instamine label in one shot--either Evan is stupid or he thinks there are enough stupid people out there to accept this story. My guess is that Evan isn't stupid. Good post. I guess time will tell. |
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+1 I don't want to be the annoying update heckler but I'd love to hear an update on progress and intended next milestones |
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I don't have enough details on how this instamine went because I was not attached to this coin at that moment. So it wouldn't be fair for me to call it a blatant scam.
But I wonder what stopped him from relaunching the coin fairly to make things right - and this was a very big reason to relaunch.
So i'm voting for 3rd option:
It was an accident, but it worked out well for him. No regrets.
The funny thing is that, instead of crying all bitcointalk, anyone can relaunch the coin NOW and do it better than Dash! The code is open source! For some people is easier crying, fudding and trolling instead of doing some work for themselves. The bottom line is that nobody knows if it was a scam launch or not. IMO, knowing many of the people around at launch and seeing the volume of coins changing hands for pennies in the early days I personally do not believe that it was a scam launch. It could have been a beneficial situation for lots of people, not just Evan whether the instamine was accidental or not. It happened. Its not going to go away. The glimpses of evidence that I do have indicate that it was a poor launch that could have benefitted anybody who was around at the time imo. I stand to be corrected but didn't the person who mined the most coins in the first few days get dropped by the team and dump his coins on an exchange for a few satoshis (relatively)? I forget his name... @AdamWhite: I have never said you were a Monero supporter. |
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It's not FUD, I am just telling that the work patched is wrong, the word delayed is correct
Yes, so is every hashing or crypto algorithm, by providing just a large enough "hurdle" (delaying & keeping the hacker busy for a few billion years. )... Those algorithms are not perfect. They are not built for eternity. The goal in cryptography is to just always move the problems far far into the future. So it's ALL about delay. And billions of years is so long of a delay, it could be considered permanent for now. My macbook battery would never last that long. |
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Just checked...if Dash should include pre-history and early mistakes in the ANN thread, why don't you create a thread campaigning for Monero to do the same?
Not a word about the Monero launch problems or early history in the XMR ANN thread
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"Difficulties" - that's putting it mildly  Dash is a high risk investment like any altcoin. However, if it implodes, it won't be because of the evidence-less allegations of a fraudulent launch. Dash is a proven instamine scam Proof please. I'm not trolling. I would like you to provide some proof that Dash is a proven instamine scam. If you provide some proof then this stupid debate can be put to bed. The instamine is proven. It's the scam part that's opinion/conjecture and part of what the poll asks. And if you think whether a coin is a scam or not is stupid, then you aren't seeing it from the viewpoint of a potential investor. How would someone new to crypto know about the instamine? It's not like it's written anywhere on the Bitcointalk ANN thread, or anywhere on the website. No, a watered down version of what happened is on a shitty wiki site barely anyone visits. It's deceptive at best, and a blatant attempt to continue deceiving people into buying into the scam (which for some reason you keep apologizing for) I'm only apologizing for it because I have seen no reason to believe that it is a scam. I had had closer access than most to the dev team and early members of the Darkcoin community and I personally do not believe for a second that there was any deliberate effort to profit by a deliberate instamine. I don't understand how not including the fact that a large number of coins were accidentally mined and then distributed among the community at incredibly cheap prices on the ANN thread is deceptive? Dash don't need to publicise the launch problems...You and various XMR supporters are doing it for them! Does XMR have something in the ANN thread covering off its early history and launch problems? From where I stand (ex DRK bag holder, now working on other coins), nobody apart from the people starting these threads seem to care. The Dash supporters who respond to you just find your devotion to spreading unprovable information hilarious. |
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