You can fill quite a few of those asks and still get a bargain you know

I'd genuinely like to know how many people on here who proclaim Bob to be a shit stain have a remote idea of what his involvements and dealings are compared to those who may have a genuine grievance against him.

The man's good at making money.  If he's broken the law doing so, then talk to LEA.  If you're just pissed off that he made some money from you then maybe its time to focus some of your anger into your own game.

If Bob is a shit stain, he's not the only shit stain in crypto.  He's not even the only shit stain who has posted on this page proclaiming that Bob is a shit stain.  The altcoin scene is a mess right now, full of scams, P&Ds, thousands of people after a quick buck and a handful of honest projects desperately trying to keep some visibility so they can hopefully one day innovate and those "honest" projects are full of people wanting to make a quick buck.  Even some of the good projects are starting to start fights with each other in a desperate attempt to get ahead (see various anti-DRK/Dash threads everywhere).

As far as I can tell, Bob takes a lot of flack for being one of the more successful shit stains in crypto.  I say this because I can count the number of people I know to be trustworthy and not in it for money in this industry on my fingers.

Loomdart's post sounds like something from the heady heights of my student days.

You don't know until you try...

No new ANN thread yet so not everyone can see that yet

I heard George spent last night chatting with idiots who don't understand masternode scoring on BCT instead of finishing the web site and preparing the ANN.    

I thought it was because we are all brainwashed followers of a cult lead by Evan.  Our adversaries post in this thread saying this all the time 

No way, I have way more distractions for him

They were pretty good solving my 2FA problem when I lost my phone recently too.  So far, I quite like Bittrex.  Not to be confused with http://www.bitrex.com/

Fine!  Decide to stop answering questions just as I start to understand things

I like it in lots of ways but I don't like it in terms of how easy to manage this would be for the node owner whether he/she is a billy-big-bag or a Terri-2-nodes.

From my point of view, I want to put my SPR to best use to maximise the strength of the network but I'd also like to be able to do this with reasonable assurances that should I be called to give evidence at the Hague (just grabbing random scenarios) for a week and unable to constantly monitor the position of my nodes in the spread, that my nodes aren't going to be costing me FIAT but not earning me SPR.  Its a two sided deal.  Service nodes get paid SPR for providing a service and those nodes costs the owner FIAT to run.

I would like to think that I would be on the altruistic spectrum of servicenode operators but if I've got 100 vps buzzing away in the cloud I would like to think that the systemic design would consider ease of management for the servicenode operators to minimise the chances of me being out of pocket.

One thing I could do is create a "bot node" that would monitor the network spread and my own "hive" of service nodes and top up their balance if one gets kicked.   Would this be considered gaming?  Obviously the bot node would need to have a hopper full of SPR...

I really appreciate the explanations George, they're helping me a lot.  Thanks.

Let the throw a scenario at you.

Person A is a whale and has 100,000SPR.  What happens if they set up 1000 100SPR servicenodes in a fit  for purpose environment for the services that they are providing?  Do  his/her nodes get rewarded (albeit on a diminishing basis) until 1000 people start servicenodes with more than 100SPR?

That said, it's clear the servicenode eco-system needs a lot of thought, discussion and planning. In addition to design, development, testing and release management

I'm not sold on it but then again there won't be a point where everybody is.

The next few months are going to be fun.  

Thanks, much appreciated.  

I need to think about this some more.   I don't understand how having a variable "entry requirement" prevents those with more money than us from buying more SPR thus reducing available supply and driving up price.  Either approach seems to lead down the same road.  

I'm not suggesting that is a bad thing, its just that I'm trying to figure out in my mind how to draw up a table showing the pros and cons of both methods.  Servicenodes/masternodes both take coins out of circulation and both reduce supply to a certain extent.

BINGO.  I get it.  I really am thick sometimes.  I'd delete the above but I thought I might as well show my (lack of) thought process.

I was about to ask what if SPR rose to $20?  In essence it wouldn't matter by using the SPR approach.

I'm finding it hard to stop thinking like a one time darkcoin baby-whale.  If somebody told me that my lets say 50 masternodes could be happily providing a good service but then the threshold to be selected for payment changed so that my masternodes would need 1007DRK I would be freaked.

I apologise for taking ages to get my head around this.  I am a disciple of the DRKside.

Could somebody explain this to me like I am a 7 year old?  What is the problem with pre-determining that a person needs a set number of SPR to run a service node?  Lets look at it another way, given that Dash has had a 1 yr head start in effect, has their 1000DRK requirement taught us anything that we need to learn from?

On another note, I can't wait for testing to begin again.  

Hi,

You're not barging in at all.

I wasn't closely involved with SPR but I think I can answer one of your questions.

At least one SPR pool exists however there is the major caveat that these pools require full trust between all of the miners.  The way the SpreadX11 algorithm works means that the private key has to be shared with all members of the pool which means that any miner could steal the entire pool's coins at any time.  So yes, a workaround was found but it is not considered to be a viable option beyond a group of close friends.

Please note that a new ANN thread is planned for SPR.  We're hoping this to happen today but no deadlines are set

I hope this helps.

Dan

Most sensible thing I have read all day.

I still do not agree with the rationale for a node score to be partially based on how many coins are associated with a node though.

Hasn't Dash just introduced a masternode scoring system that takes up-time and QOS into account or did I dream that?

Sorry, can't hear you Icebreaker.  Your posts make me feel too sad for you.

I wonder if the decision would have stuck had Gliss been able to look at the people making the accusations towards Dash and see that they had acted with integrity and were a credible source of information rather than a bunch of hate filled trolls who think that DashHole is funny.

I don't know, Gliss is at least being open about the decision making and options available...