I'm a fool to know that these threads only appear when other coins getting pumped ?
I don't care about any pump, I am neither invested in DRK and I also do not plan to do so. I was hoping that it is possible to discuss here about technical details and question the techniques which are sold to us as "anonymous". But from the replies that I read here, I begin to understand why the markets are full of non-rational panicksters who blindly fall for every pump and dump. Why? Because the others "say something". Haven't you guys learned to question things? Are you always believing what someone tells you? I guess you have not even tried to follow what I have written. Sad stuff. Ed Duffield and the dev team area aware of your claims. Expecting non technical people to have a technical view of what you have done is unrealistic. |
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Lets see what the devs say.
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Whilst logically set out I do not believe this takes the full mechanism into account. I give this a 1/10 chance of being replicable in the wild.
I hope that I am not proven wrong.
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Holy shit on the Euro.
I am traveling (on an extended stay in Europe) and I started to feel like I was feeling in Argentina / Brazil as they respective currencies were plummeting... I was in Argentina during the crash. Scary stuff. Overnight, the banks closed the doors because the government seized all cash. The rich were fine because their money was abroad. The poor were fine because they had nothing anyway The middle classes lost everything. "Sorry Sir, you can't have your savings because there is no money". Within a matter of days, previously comfortable families were struggling to feed themselves. |
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Navajo hasn't even launched the anon function yet.
Darkcoin didn't have Darksend from the start.
Shadowcash is waiting for its secuirity and code review to happen.
Only a few (possibly 2) offer robust and proven anon functionality but this will surely change.
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Thats our first major publication isn't it?
I wonder if there is anything in print?
EDIT: Tungfa...maybe the writer would be interested in interviewing Evan?
Hahaaaa really !? Let me think ....  Actually i can NOTas i might just have a drink (4-6) right now ! Woot Woot  Edit: Can somebody please check on a print version ?!? Tx I'll take a look through a copy when I can get away from my desk. Sorry, nothing in print today. Maybe tomorrow in the Saturday edition. |
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Thats our first major publication isn't it?
I wonder if there is anything in print?
EDIT: Tungfa...maybe the writer would be interested in interviewing Evan?
Hahaaaa really !? Let me think .... Actually i can NOTas i might just have a drink (4-6) right now ! Woot Woot Edit: Can somebody please check on a print version ?!? Tx I'll take a look through a copy when I can get away from my desk. |
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Thats our first major publication isn't it?
I wonder if there is anything in print?
EDIT: Tungfa...maybe the writer would be interested in interviewing Evan?
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Off topic rant: For fucks sake. I need a new career. I've been doing this for too long. Anybody know of any paid jobs in crypto?
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There are so many possible permutations.
We've just made another major release (this one includes masternode blinding!) so people might be busy for a while but I'd like to see an informed debate on this topic here...
Wanna link what masternode blinding is. I've never heard of it. Masternode Blinding
Recently a paper by 3 researches at Saarland University came out describing a new technique, while there are some serious problems with the approach they take, the concept of blinding the users they use is novel. In CoinShuffle, each output is sent to the next peer in a circle, one at a time. The new peer adds an output, shuffles and then sends the list again. We can do this and actually improve upon it.
To implement blinding, each user would connect to one completely random masternode and say "Send masternode X this output/value for mix N" and pass a single output. That output would be passed to the leading masternode. It would take access to all masternodes used to know who did what, which is as solid as M rounds mathematically (M = number of outputs). This is great because all users can submit all inputs at once. So it's super fast compared to CoinShuffle and even more secure.
This looks like something that could be implemented relatively fast (its being tested on Testnet as we speak). It creates far more anonymity, works faster and needs less rounds of mixing (4 to 6 rounds will now give very very strong anonymity). The net effect of this is as follows: Probability of following Darksend through - 4 non-blinded rounds with 10 masternodes* is (10/2300)^4 == 3.5734577849564574e-10 - 4 blinded rounds with 10 masternodes is ((10/2300.0)^20)**4 == 1.1528508353537067e-189 Each round uses 20 random masternodes of 2300, so you must control 20 of 2300 four times in a row. It's super secure . Here's the new probablities for each successive round: - 1 rounds with 10 masternodes is ((10/2300.0)^20)^1 == 5.826976675086318e-48 - 2 rounds with 10 masternodes is ((10/2300.0)^20)^2 == 3.3953657171999996e-95 - 3 rounds with 10 masternodes is ((10/2300.0)^20)^3 == 1.9784716837512123e-142 - 4 rounds with 1000 masternodes is ((1000/2300.0)^20)^4 == 1.1528508353537028e-29 * attacker controlled |
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My bad, its just a testnet update.
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^^^ Thanks, I'll just wait for a reply here, unless I get really motivated.
I'll see if I can get somebody to pop over and answer it for you...most of the Darkcoin brains steer clear of BCT. Pish....  Come on then props, step up with a view |
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There are so many possible permutations.
We've just made another major release (this one includes masternode blinding!) so people might be busy for a while but I'd like to see an informed debate on this topic here...
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^^^ Thanks, I'll just wait for a reply here, unless I get really motivated.
I'll see if I can get somebody to pop over and answer it for you...most of the Darkcoin brains steer clear of BCT. |
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yeah, i wasted my yesterday morning on it as well. I wanted somewhere to discuss, or get input from DRK people because I really don't understand 1. the hostility and 2. why peeps are all about DRK. And I didn't want to venture into their ANN thread because there's a lot of activity there and I assumed I would get lambasted with "troll" or "shill" or whatever. So I saw this thread... I hope I wasn't the one that bumped it hueristic:)
stonehedge: there was no comment on the intrinsic connection between currency valuation and privacy technology and its subsequent implications. You focused on my pool comment, which is something that we apparently agree on re: decentralization.
Imagine if DRK goes to, i dunno, something ridiculous - $10k
based on current code, thats 10 million USD.
So, this either entrenches the existing MN network and reduces entry for increased network privacy and essentially centralizes this component.
Or it causes decrease in privacy because everyone has their price (sell my MN for 10 million? sure, whoever you are and whatever you plan on doing if you can just throw 10 million $$ around)
I mean, yes, the above scenario may be extreme but these sorts of things need to be considered if we are talking about creating technology that will be used worldwide as a means of transferring value.
One potential solution, of course, is to modify the code to adjust the wallet level cutoff for masternodes, but I can imagine this would be a hardfork (fork A continues with only 1k masternodes, fork B continues with 0.5k masternodes, whatever). ANd this type of forking requires full network consensus, else you'll end up with two different networks eventually... if I understand my cryptocurrency tech correctly.
Oh yes. I didn't answer because I don't have the knowledge to answer the question without a lot of guesswork. It might seem like a bother but if you signed up on darkcointalk.org you wouldn't be treated as a troll or shill. You are asking a very valid question. Either that or go to darkcoin.io, pick a dev and send them an email. The'd be glad to help. |
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this thread was doin OK up until a point. My comment seemed to have flummoxed the dark side.
Which comments did I not respond to? |
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My initial thought was maybe they took the top 5 by marketcap...but Namecoin?! |
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These wars are pretty funny. The tech is totally left aside and it's just insults being thrown around. I see it on one of the main DRK threads too. What's going on?
As a DRK team member and bag holder, I really have no idea. May the best coin win. Which may well be none of us. |
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Is it as simple as that?
No, I think it's more difficult. Lol. Hey Tok, stimulate me with some of your chart voodoo! Gaze into your crystal balls and tell me the DRK forecast for the week ahead! |
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