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821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The future of bitcoin on: October 04, 2015, 04:09:59 AM
To believers, it’s the future of money, privacy and payments, the end of greedy banks and the fall of government fiat currencies.

well its certainly none of the above.

privacy  Huh

end of greedy bankers lmao.....really, take a look around you, at the very best tis just making alot of noob wannabes try to be the new greedy wankers umm bankers  Kiss
822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why they hate so much bitcoin? Vitalik Buterin fud in IBT on: October 04, 2015, 02:48:36 AM
gotta be cruel to be kind, sometimes no matter how painful one does have to accept reality. buterin comments are not FUD.
823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What 2.0 Currency will be the most successful? on: October 02, 2015, 02:55:42 PM
NEM is a cheap copycat of NXT
earth is a disc

I wonder if there's anyone who believes this poll wasn't rigged so far.  The only options in the list anyone has ever heard of are Ethereum, Bitshares, and NXT, yet the one nobody has heard of, NEM, somehow got to #1.  Can you say rigging the ballots?

i've heard of NEM more then all the others combined  Huh
824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin v. Bitcoin on: October 02, 2015, 02:13:59 PM
never use bitcoin, since litecoin arrived.
825  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCS][CRYPTOVOTER LAUNCH] Bitcoin-sCrypt | in techcrunch on: October 02, 2015, 09:24:23 AM
we keep edging ahead but barely, need more BTCS community members to vote and add their support in the cryptopia chat Smiley
826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any real difference in Vitalik of Ethereum and Bobsurplus of crapcoin? on: September 30, 2015, 03:44:46 AM
Bob creates random coin named something like Donkeycoin, issues an IPO, uses the IPO money to manipulate the market and pump the coin, then dumps on everyone.

Vitalik creates coin, issues an IPO, calls it not an IPO, uses the IPO money to manipulate the market and pump the coin, then dumps on everyone.

What exactly is the difference here?

i think you missed something there's a huge difference between the to, for a start Vitalik starts with a V and Bob starts with a B  Wink

827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if it became reversible like paypal? on: September 30, 2015, 03:39:57 AM
well i for one woke up this morning thinking to myself; "you know what the world really needs, another paypal"  Roll Eyes
828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The prisoner's dilemma of altcoin development: It's time to join forces. on: September 28, 2015, 06:32:49 AM
maybe thought it was a serious thread til see just another monero shill thread  Roll Eyes
829  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's next for Gavin?? on: September 27, 2015, 12:29:01 AM
Gavin was barely even on the bitcon project for the longest time.
830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The state of crypto - The only serious thread on the subforum on: September 26, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
relevant how  Huh

The politics of crypto are even more interesting than the actual coins sometimes.

trading sub forum at best.
831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The state of crypto - The only serious thread on the subforum on: September 26, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
I think you're about to see the largest margin call in Poloniex history.  


relevant how  Huh
832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin does not work. on: September 26, 2015, 08:26:41 AM
From what I've seen (and my own mentality) no one wants to spend Bitcoins. There is a hassle to obtaining Bitcoins, and therefor there is a premium. The cost of paying for a $10 thing with cash, credit card, paypal, whatever is $10. The cost of paying with Bitcoin is substantially higher due to the time you put in when trying to obtain the Bitcoins. The only time I see people buying a lot of things with Bitcoin is after a price surge.

Its like if a store accepted Cash, Bitcoins, and Gold/Silver. No one would pay with Gold/Silver unless they had to, because $10 worth of silver will actually cost something like $12 or better due to the minting premiums. Same idea with Bitcoin, though it has more to do with difficulty of obtaining, so why not use your useless cash?

agree and so much for the potential of crypto for taking out the money changes.  Huh


and on the other note at lower then peak people hoard bitcoin not spend it, even a the best of times its rarely used as currency.
833  Other / Meta / Re: Why obivious scam/scammy new altcoin threads do not get deleted by mods? on: September 26, 2015, 08:20:47 AM
yep btc fanbois want alts to look scammy  Shocked
834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCS][RELAUNCH] Bitcoin-sCrypt | CryptoVoter | as featured in techcrunch on: September 23, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
After a year and a half it's finally here.

yes and an amazing amount of consistent hard work and dedication by Smokeasy to get BTCS to this point !
835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN][BTCS][CRYPTOVOTER LAUNCH] Bitcoin-sCrypt | in techcrunch on: September 23, 2015, 01:02:58 PM


Announcements | Official Website | Official Forums | Twitter | Facebook | Google+


Bitcoin-sCrypt (BTCS) CryptoVoter LAUNCH

First Coin to Decentralize Development thru
CryptoVoter’s Shareholder-style Blockchain Voting

- as featured in techcrunch -



BTCS Voting Website | CryptoVoter Website | BTC Voting Website



Latest Clients (downloads and source-codes below):
Wallet Client: Bitcoin-sCrypt v.1.4.0
Voting Client: CryptoVoter-BTCS v.1.10.1










Bitcoin-sCrypt - CryptoVoter

After over a year and a half of development by self-funding (and refusing to prefund vaporware with an ICO or premine) the CryptoVoter development team has developed an open-source shareholder-style blockchain voting client and Bitcoin-sCrypt (BTCS) will be first cryptocoin to use CryptoVoter’s blockchain voting client to decentralize crypto development.

CryptoVoter’s new and unique blockchain voting system was recently featured in techcrunch and CryptoCoinNews.

The community will guide development on future cryptocoin features.  Pulling features instead of pushing them.   This is the future of cryptocoin development.  Bitcoin-sCrypt (BTCS) will lead the way.

The open-source voting client has been developed and alpha-tested.

No vaporware.  No ICO’s.  No pre-mines.   Real software.  Real voting.  Real decentralization.

Shareholder-style blockchain voting is here.  Decentralized cryptocoin governance is now.

Welcome to Altcoins 2.0.



Bitcoin-sCrypt – Decentralized Development


While the original Bitcoin (BTC) provides decentralized transaction exchange and confirmation, development follows a centralized top-down model.  Bitcoin-sCrypt (BTCS) development is committed to decentralizing development by having users vote on development issues with vote weight based on coin ownership percentages, just like shareholder voting in a corporation.   What’s more, Bitcoin-sCrypt users can propose items to be voted on so Bitcoin-sCrypt development is truly community-driven.

Future votes include whether to change the mining algo to become more asic resistant, whether to switch to a hybrid or a pure Proof-of-Stake system; whether to adopt anonymity features; whether to increase the blocksize; and whether to adopt new cryptocoin features and functionality, as proposed by the coin-holders themselves.


How Voting Works:

Users can cast votes manually, or use the CryptoVoter voting client to automatically cast votes, by creating vanity Bitcoin voting addresses in the user’s own wallet to allow them to send coins from one address in their wallet to another address in the same wallet by a designated blockheight deadline to publicly register votes.  Voters never give up control of their private keys before, during or after votes.  At the designated voting blockheight deadline (which is announced 48-72 hours before the estimated voting deadline), all non-zero balances of matching vanity Bitcoin voting addresses are tallied to count votes and can be independently counted by anyone using a blockchain explorer.  

An infographic explaining how it works can be found here.




How to Vote:

To automatically cast a vote, download the CryptoVoter-BTCS voting client and launch the client to get the latest voting question and answer choices.  You can also view past vote results and future voting questions in the client.

To manually cast a vote, visit http://btcs-voter.com to get the latest voting question and manual voting instructions.  You can also view past vote results and future voting questions on the website.




Specifications:


  • Release date: September 8, 2013 [No premine]
  • Mining Algo:  Scrypt POW
  • Block reward: 25 coins per block  (prior to halving:  50 coins per block)
  • Block generation: 2 minutes
  • Difficulty Retargets using nTargetTimespan = 60 * 60; nTargetSpacing=2*60; nInterval = nTargetTimespan/nTargetSpacing
  • Estimated 21 Million Max Coins
  • Development Driven by Shareholder-Style Blockchain Voting (CryptoVoter)



Mining Pools:



Exchanges:


Block Explorers:




BTCS Coin Information Sites




DOWNLOADS AND SOURCECODES:


BITCOIN-SCRYPT WALLET SOFTWARE v.1.4.0 CRYPTOVOTER-BTCS VOTING SOFTWARE v.1.10.1  ...............................................................................
[CLIENT]Latest Bitcoin-sCrypt wallet client binaries for Windows, Linux and Mac can be found here: http://bitcoinscrypt.co/#walletclientdownloads [CLIENT] Latest CryptoVoter-BTCS Voting client binaries for Windows and Linux can be found here: http://btcs-voter.com/download  ...............................................................................
[SOURCE] Source-code can be found here: https://github.com/bitcoin-scrypt/bitcoin-scrypt.git [SOURCE] Source-code can be found here: https://github.com/CryptoVoter-Client/CryptoVoter-Client  ...............................................................................
[LINUX COMPILE] Bitcoin-sCrypt wallet client Linux compile instructions can be found here: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/41433-how-to-compile-bitcoin-scrypt-v140-on-linux[LINUX COMPILE] CryptoVoter-BTCS voting client Linux compile instructions can be found here: https://github.com/CryptoVoter-Client/CryptoVoter-Client/blob/master/COMPILE.ubuntu  ...............................................................................
[WINDOWS COMPILE] Bitcoin-sCrypt wallet client Windows Gitian deterministic build compile instructions can be found here: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/41434-how-to-compile-bitcoin-scrypt-v140-for-windows-gitian [WINDOWS COMPILE] CryptoVoter-BTCS voting client Windows compile instructions can be found here: https://github.com/CryptoVoter-Client/CryptoVoter-Client/blob/master/COMPILE.windows  ...............................................................................



Bitcoin-sCrypt (BTCS) | CryptoVoter



Previous 2013 bitcointalk thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318253.0

836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I found out this fool [`bittrex-richie] on: September 23, 2015, 09:51:48 AM
these guys are in every channel impersonating people with lowercase "L" or uppercase "i" or changing usernames. you'll notice most channels have a warning about them. never trade offmarket, if its to good tobe true and you dont knwo the person it is to good to be true and your sending coins to thin air.

yes those of us who always use caps for our username in such chats aren't doing it just to yell  Wink
837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In your own words: What is the purpose of Bitcoin? on: September 23, 2015, 02:02:18 AM
I don't think we can predict the original purpose of bitcoin correctly. But We know now bitcoin is not just money, it can be commodity, investment etc

no need to predict the past  Huh the original purpose is stated pretty damn clearly in old newgroups, original white paper etc
838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: In your own words: What is the purpose of Bitcoin? on: September 23, 2015, 01:26:10 AM
far removed from its original potential unfortunately  Lips sealed
839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Realistically does bitcoin have any competition ? on: September 22, 2015, 10:29:10 PM
Any platform that is a clone of Bitcoin with only a few small tweaks, can't ever really take a serious market share away from Bitcoin.  

completely disagree. btc got alot right, why change the tried and tested, so its a good place to start.

many seem to think here original code written after btc automatically means better then btc...yet to see any that's an improvement on btc.
840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Realistically does bitcoin have any competition ? on: September 21, 2015, 12:57:42 PM
 
To get rich?  (I mean, really rich)  To change the world?  You have to think outside the box.  You think Buffet got so rich by following the rules?  No!  He invented modern value investing; he was doing it when no one else was, and that's why he had his advantage.  You think Bill Gates got where he is by avoiding breaking eggs and giving a fuck what mainstream investors thought?  
  
People who are heavy into crypto now are eschewing all the rules, and either the greatest technological innovation since the internet just *goes away somehow* or we will be the new financial elite eventually, same as those who got in on the ground floor of the dot-com boom and made good decisions (yes, if you go all in on Pets.com or BBQCoin you are going to lose your shirt).  
  
The future is not a safe place.  It is a wild and crazy place, full of unexpected turns and twists.  
  
It will not belong to the safe.  

It will belong to the bold.


the idea of crypto is an alt currency to fiat, its not about getting rich.

for any crypto to be successful its about adoption, you can think outside the box (though i am yet to see anything it crypto thinking outside the box) go the road less travelled, be bold, be uniquely innovative; but you'll be using this amazing innovative currency alone and therefore its next to completely useless.

0 to 3.5B$ market cap in 5 years is not too bad adoption is it?

Americanpegasus' point is that if your "trader" buddies wait until Bitcoin is at 1T$ market cap chances are they might just miss the boat  Wink


hows marketcap correspond to adoption as a currency  Huh

as a currency bitcoin is not being used thats a fact, marketcap eludes to it being used as a fake fiat trading token, and in no way indicates anything of value.

my trader buddies know bitcoin marketcap could vaporiser or goto the moon, same as anyone.

what they know above the bitcoin crowd here is the real mechanism for bitcoin's 'price'. ie the greater fool theory;

the greater fool theory states that the price of an object is determined not by its intrinsic value, but rather by irrational beliefs and expectations of market participants. a price can be justified by a rational buyer under the belief that another party is willing to pay an even higher price. in other words, one may pay a price that seems "foolishly" high because one may rationally have the expectation that the item can be resold to a "greater fool" later.
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