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941  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is there any profit? on: February 24, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
Whell... So i wasn´t very far from what i expected Smiley

I this context i think i agree with VirosaGITS.

It seams that this business is more useful on the winter when you are cold and can have some BIG ASS ANTMINER to keep the room worm (while using some thing to cover your ear holes and ignore the noise), an use 40 to 50% to pay the electricity.
In my point of view, the investment on new equipment right out of production line, and pay the Bonus for being the new technology, may be an advantage, when you are the first one.

But for people like me and Virosa and others, we just need a piece of the cake. And that piece, cost us a lot. Because great companies are fighting for the mining at all costs. Maybe when S7 went out, they payed him in 5 months or 6, and the rest was profit, now they will buy a better one with more TH/s and will pay them in another 5 6 months, and we are now on E*b*a*y buying they scrap.   

I just wanna make some pocket changes , since BETFAIR was banned on this piece of  Sh** of country.....



Well for mining with 0.11$ i think you're SOL. You'd be better off buying miners and hosting them where the electricity is really cheap. There's not much to say. If you need the heat anyways, get some quiet S3's or something.

If you have a house with central heating, hack a couples of S7 or Avalon6's exhaust into your main vent. Since you'd be paying for the heating anyways, its a great plan. But comes the heat... unless your electricity is really cheap, you're right its going to be very hard to get a "piece of the cake".
942  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Prepaid Gift Card Payment Processor on: February 24, 2016, 12:21:09 PM
Is there any Prepaid Gift Card Payment Processor for outside US traders?

I tried SquareUp but it doesn't allow me to process cards.

Any other?

I'd say it depends on where you are and what card you want. Like i can't get Amazon.com gift card and use them on Amazon.ca it seem like.

In Canada i've used;
https://coincards.ca

Its 5% fee and not well known, very small so they could disappear at any moments. But when i used them for 50$, i got the gift card within 1 day.
943  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: February 24, 2016, 12:14:48 PM

Same, it totally disappeared. I don't even know the correct number of posts I've made :-/

Same here. I dint realize today was the payment day and did not even count my posts. Now the bot is reset.

Same mine reset went to new counter but no payment was sent  for last week that was reset.

Same. With this week's and posts missed from when we changed bot, i'm now at over 200 posts unpaid. Hmm.
944  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is there any profit? on: February 24, 2016, 12:11:27 PM
There is always luck involved in mining. You could go solo and hope for a block that might never come, but yes, the s7 is not going to be profitable soon. I BEG OF YOU NOT TO BUY. People with electricity even at 0.1$/kwh are starting to lose the fight, and now you'll need to be patient and wait for the new bitfury chip that's uber-efficient or wait for bitmain to introduce an equally powerful miner. Otherwise, do not buy.

I'm not sure why everyone keep recommending to wait for the next gen. It doesnt matter, its not going to help.

If your electricity is too expensive now, its going to be too expensive later. When a new gen comes out in the grand scale this is what will happen;

-New miner comes out and is super expensive. But much more efficient than last gen. Yay your electricity costs are now low!
-People buy like crazy
-2 Months later the miner now sell for half as they did in Batch 1, difficulty has doubled, back to same profitability. Boo your electricity costs are now too high.
-Sound familiar enough?

Right now in Canada, I break even my Antminer S1's at local electricity costs and i need the heat anyways. My Antminer S5 % of income vs electricity cost is close to 50%. Take about 28$ per month to run for 1300 GH/s. It return theoretically 50$ per month right now.
945  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [Help] Antminer S1 peaking 32 GH/S on: February 24, 2016, 06:12:03 AM
Okay so I tried to get the other blade up and running but it powered off my PSU after a couple of seconds, from what I've been reading that's because it can't support the draw that the S1 is trying to draw correct?
But it's also pretty late so I may have just configured something incorrectly.

I might put the pencil mod back on the other side and look into it just so I can get both blades up and running on one PSU.

Thanks again!

Now that you,ve removed it, you're gonna have to grab a multi meter and make it even on both sides. Or you'll get one board not being run at the right timeout/freq. And its possible, the load can do 400-500W, so i'd need to know what the PSU is.

I think the stock numbers are 180 GH/s for close to 400Watts. Undervolted you can get 140GH/s for 175Watts. Hence even people with free electricity run them undervolted.
946  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar array starting to look good. on: February 24, 2016, 05:44:06 AM
buysolar has told me he may add sun tracker in the summer.  

we want to be sure all other things are working well.

Considering you're not running a motor continuously, just doing adjustments, it should not take much energy to do the couple of adjustment during the day. Worse case scenario, you could always do it with a crank, but i can't really imagine saving the power and doing it manually is really worth the effort.
947  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S5 in a hot Texas garage? on: February 24, 2016, 05:35:45 AM
So I'm noticing the prices of the S3s and S5s dropping significantly.  I have 2 S3s and was thinking about adding an S5, but I have a few questions.

1. The S5 is as loud as a small vacuum, correct?

2. I live in Texas where it's easily 100-105F every day from June-Sept/Oct and never drops below 80F at night during the summer.  I would want to put the S5 in the garage, which gets even hotter.  Would this be ok or would the S5 not be able to operate at such temps??

The S5 is hot and loud.   Might look and see if you can find a DB rating, but "small vacuum" is hard to quantify that into a number.

Would I mine in 100F .... no I think heat is going to be a pain unless you have some really good cooling.   Add a few S5's to a area that is already 100+ F ... .you are getting very hot.

If the area is well aerated or open-ish, he might be able to get away with it by adding a second fan, and maybe he could also try to use box fans to blow air through transversely. Its hard to tell what will really do it, considering how the heatsink just throw air everywhere.

The print modded enclosure would probably also do it. If not, underclock.. but that would kinda suck. But if all else fail, its a good failsafe.
948  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [Help] Antminer S1 peaking 32 GH/S on: February 24, 2016, 05:34:07 AM
Would definitively happen if you or the person who owned the S1 before you did pen modding.

I didn't know what this was so some googling and took a look at the board and the resistors R3, R66, R38, R52 were all colored black.
I just took an eraser to one blade and that seemed to do the trick!

http://imgur.com/bc6Bsjf

Thank you for the speedy reply!!

*nod* Make sense. Running them undervolted is a very good though. You can cut the consumption in more than half and only lose 25% hashrate or so. Keep that in mind if you get more, since just the saving on PSU capacity is very good, even when you have free electricity.
949  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [Help] Antminer S1 peaking 32 GH/S on: February 24, 2016, 05:12:33 AM
Would definitively happen if you or the person who owned the S1 before you did pen modding. Try lowering the freq. And then you're gonna have to mess with the timing values depending on the resistance on the pen mod. If its been undervolted and you set the clock too high its going to have crap hashrate.

If its truly stock, then there's probably something wrong with it.
950  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Feb 19 to Mar 3? picks are open.... prize = 0.2 btc on: February 24, 2016, 01:01:20 AM
Too good to be true Tongue

+4.2 = VirosaGITS
951  Economy / Services / Re: LEGENDARY MEMBER Offering TRUSTED BITCOIN ESCROW services (NO ACCOUNTS, NO FIAT) on: February 23, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
Sure I'd be willing to tag them appropriately , but couldn't you do it too? Considering you are the one being impersonated and that you are on DT 1

Actually, I don't even want to be this hands on.  I think users should post their scam accusations as normally expected or on this thread.  If people want to spend time tagging these users, I will consider adding them to my trust list so their feedback carries more weight.

Well i've been tagging and reporting the scammers/impersonators i've come across, but my trust reports doesnt mean much. Its been more effective to post my reasoning and proof in scam thread and let people like Tomatocage neg them good. Thats been working pretty well.
952  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S7 Refusing Connection on: February 23, 2016, 08:53:46 PM
you are not going to like this but here goes it won't work for you unless you find it address.

so this one won't let you steal from the uni.



All I need to do is get into the configuration file and I can make it work. How can I find it's IP when plugged directly into my computer?

Normally you would need to set up connection sharing.  Just plugging in a miner to computer I doubt set's up connection sharing automatically (unless it comes up with a set-up as you did it).

Have you tried going direct into router?   Normally that is best connection as you don't need a computer on to connect.  Long term a computer is a high priced way to get network connection.


Mayyyybe you could try plugging a router of your own and see if it can work as an access point. I'm not sure if you're going to get your own list of ip device, but maybe it will at least give you a GUI to tell you what the IPs are.

Worth trying if have one handy.
953  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S7 running temps on: February 23, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
I just got my batch 10 today and it's far from ideal to say the least.  Running it at the default 700mhz in a 72 degree F ambient temperature room at 100% fan my temps are up to about 77C.  I dropped it down to 650mhz and now it hashes at 4.4th and a mere 74C.  On the plus side it's got really low hardware errors.  Cry

https://i.imgur.com/34mNy5g.jpg?1

I got more even temps by laying the miner on the side... xD And that sound a bit running hot. Is it bathing in its own heat output? Mine B8 and B9 are a bit cooler, to say the least.

Thanks I'll try putting it on it's side.  Does it matter if it sits on its left side or right side?  I'd rather not have the larger heat sinks facing down.  I worry about gravity eventually pulling the heat sinks off.

It sits right next to another S7 batch 9 that runs 55 57 60.

I had not thought of heatsinks falling off over time. From what i understand, unless the unit overheat, the thermal plaster should remain fairly solid? I asked a few times if anyone thought of a downside of doing this and no one ever commented.

But yeah i saw a huge difference by running it on the side. I think i have mine on the left side, i guess i'll have to try right side.
954  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: I want to mine on my Oven' NEMA 14-50r on: February 23, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
I got the plug, still waiting on the PDU/Strip bars.

@phil
Did you end up finding anything interesting on the 40A PDU?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/401071409648

runs over 300 new.  Amazing but every search I have done does not turn a manual up.

I do not know if it is fused>  Would be nice if it was.

I was wondering if i just didnt know how to go about it. I paid 55$ for it tho so. Hmm. I'll guess i'll try to search harder. Maybe someone else knows a better way to get the data...

Edit; Actually dug through HP pdf list and found the manual i think;
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04123438.pdf

It says it has overload protection per load group. Is that what we want, and its per 15A outlet? Kinda sound like it just prevent each outlet of running more than 15A?

yeah but surges are less important then you think running this gear.

you are running s-7's correct?

And S5's and PCs/GPU rigs and AMTubes and A6. My farm setup is rather a patchwork of whatever i found best to buy at the moment. Right now i'm onlining GPU's since SHA256 is not doing all that great.

so you have a complex  net work mining.

 Now I have some understanding.  I actually think it is not surges causing issue.  give me a minute to find what I what.

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-2000w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector~LR2000/

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-1000w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector~LR1000/

http://www.tripplite.com/line-conditioner-600w-avr-system-automatic-voltage-regulator-power-conditioner-ac-surge-protector-230v~LR604/


all of the above are a line conditioner first  and attempt to keep you close to 230volts.

the surge protection they do is secondary.


you are more likely going down to 205 and up to 250   volts and these will stop that.

surge issues are when you go up to 330 volts --------- not your problem.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-TRIPP-LITE-LINE-CONDITIONER-2000W-/252278634199?



I would look into this one and use it to all the pc's see what happens



Okay thanks, those are a bit expensive and i'm moving soon, maybe i wont have any issues there. I bookmarked them and i'll test once there to see if i get voltage problems.

I'd also like to be mostly protected in case of a real surge, like a lightning storm or some such, i'm guessing the appartment will have its grid protected already but, anything cheap i can add to be a bit safer?
955  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: I want to mine on my Oven' NEMA 14-50r on: February 23, 2016, 05:21:33 PM
I got the plug, still waiting on the PDU/Strip bars.

@phil
Did you end up finding anything interesting on the 40A PDU?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/401071409648

runs over 300 new.  Amazing but every search I have done does not turn a manual up.

I do not know if it is fused>  Would be nice if it was.

I was wondering if i just didnt know how to go about it. I paid 55$ for it tho so. Hmm. I'll guess i'll try to search harder. Maybe someone else knows a better way to get the data...

Edit; Actually dug through HP pdf list and found the manual i think;
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04123438.pdf

It says it has overload protection per load group. Is that what we want, and its per 15A outlet? Kinda sound like it just prevent each outlet of running more than 15A?

yeah but surges are less important then you think running this gear.

you are running s-7's correct?

And S5's and PCs/GPU rigs and AMTubes and A6. My farm setup is rather a patchwork of whatever i found best to buy at the moment. Right now i'm onlining GPU's since SHA256 is not doing all that great.
956  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 09:32:10 AM
Meanwhile Smiley Regarding the pool wallet.

I've had a good think about how I do it and what changes I could make.

It's actually not all that difficult to do as I do already with one change, combine them once a day rather than send each one when it's due.
I like the process I have at the moment of checks and balances - that are beyond what many may expect Smiley - but I could simply continue that to get to the point where I'm happy with each individual result, but not send the result, then later run another process that picks a set of payouts from earlier in the process and combines them all, once a day.

That way I already know they've passed all inspections, and it's just dependent on me creating a new step that can add the earlier data correctly - so dust payouts are combined, and dust only not sent if the combination is below 10k satoshi.

Yeah I really don't want a pool bank for everyone, and I think this change would fit in well, and reduce the number of transactions and the payout division caused by our average expected more than one block a day.

Any comments?

(Edit: if anyone didn't notice, the last address in each payout is the total dust in each, which has always been more than zero except once)

Daily or bi-daily sound good. Daily works. Sometimes getting paid more often can be nice, but 5 payout is a bit much and if the pool continue to grow in % of total hashrate, it will just get ridiculous.

Then again, if you internally do all the work and only release bundled payments, you'll still get more and more work to do.
957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NEW Home X11 Dash Miner for Sale DualMiner DM384M Legit or Not? on: February 23, 2016, 09:25:20 AM
Its legit but its overpriced and very slow.

Seem a bit faster than a GPU rig, for 1/3rd the electricity consumption, for several time the price of the GPU rig. Not sure if its worth it. I guess more research and math need to be done when i get the time.
958  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [25 PH] ** 5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY ** Kano CKPool (kano.is) [0.9% PPLNS] US,DE,SG,JP on: February 23, 2016, 07:22:30 AM
de.kano.is:3333 at 6:45 utc DEAD and all other too?
Yeah the whole pool lost network connection for a bit over 1 minute at 2016-02-23 08:41 UTC
All's ok again (2 minutes later)

Do you never sleep ?  Wink

He has military sirens to wake him up at the first signs of troubles. Tongue
959  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S7 Refusing Connection on: February 23, 2016, 06:59:05 AM
Hello. I bought an Antminer S7 and I am using an EVGA Supernova 1300w PSU with it. For some reason I can power up the miner but the controller board won't allow me to connect to it so I can control it. I tried connecting to the correct IP address and it would refuse my connection (it wouldn't say there isn't a connection). I tried reseting it to get rid of the static IP and now I can't even find the IP. The IP Finder thing on Bitmain doesn't work for me, nor can I find it on IP scans. Is there anything I can do now? Sad

I wonder why it was on static ip from the start. Well anyways, you generally go to your router's page and see which IP was attributed to the miner. Also by default the miners is on the 1.X subnet.

Look for a DHCP or a list of device connected page.
960  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S7 running temps on: February 23, 2016, 05:14:29 AM
I just got my batch 10 today and it's far from ideal to say the least.  Running it at the default 700mhz in a 72 degree F ambient temperature room at 100% fan my temps are up to about 77C.  I dropped it down to 650mhz and now it hashes at 4.4th and a mere 74C.  On the plus side it's got really low hardware errors.  Cry

https://i.imgur.com/34mNy5g.jpg?1

I got more even temps by laying the miner on the side... xD And that sound a bit running hot. Is it bathing in its own heat output? Mine B8 and B9 are a bit cooler, to say the least.
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