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961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2020, 08:47:03 PM
Nasdaq 10K maybe tomorrow, what craziness is that?


USD getting worthless?

Guess that was the plan
962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2020, 06:51:05 AM
Good Morning WO!!

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Bitcoin's hashrate just surged almost to a new all-time high.

Many hashes, such secure, much wow!



Source: https://twitter.com/blockfolio/status/1269727612747857926

Draw that as candle chart and do some TA

 Grin
963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OK! Who is THIS Bitcoiner? on: June 08, 2020, 05:55:36 AM

Prof miners without high-end setup and the full chain high end DB node to verify - don't exist any more

Non - miners are just depending on what miners write - the network graph is miners do the job - get paied and do not risk that they lose a block, so they verify FIRST and PROFESSIONAL.

no need of lacking behind with a funny raspi, and wannabee verfi too late. They are just slow relay / followers in that network graph.


Help: Draw a flow chart for the processs and you see


Then how can anyone verify/validate what the miners "write", and verify/validate that they are following the rules, if not for running a Bitcoin full node?

Go to the topic link, join thr poll, and post an opinion, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249795.0

Roll Eyes

The flat-earthers of Bitcoin obviously doesn't have the word "sarcasm" in their vocabulary. It's also clear the troll didn't read how the topic is developing for context, and he might also be posting information without sources.


You never believe any source links on any issues, part of the reason you stay stupid.
If you want a source , Try using google, Confused_Fury.


BUT in globe-Earth, the news sources in Google say the deli employee CALLED 911, and said George Floyd used a counterfeit $20.00 bill. OK?

"Bitcoin fixes this", by running a full node, validate own transactions, without involving the police.

Dummy, if a Visa Card had been used , then no counterfeit money , no phone call to the police.


Bitcoin, AND Visa will save us? Cool

Do you have to trust miners ? Again who really runs the show ? Who fights for WRIGHTING rights any 10 min to update the DB (Blockchain) ?

All non mining (NON-WRIGHTING) nodes are LISTENERS (relay at best)  , never WRIGHTERS

Job done - one line needed , not a full thread to understand
964  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin should never become fully anonymous- don't fool yourself on: June 07, 2020, 01:56:04 PM
If the FBI, CIA & NSA could've never traced a Bitcoin tx since they heard of it, I bet it would've been banned long ago.

i disagree. it may be a tiny part of the reason but the main reason is because bitcoin is decentralized and can not be banned. not to mention that bitcoin's main usage has never been for anything illegal. if it were any other way then truly anonymous coins such as Monero would have been banned already, which is obviously not happening.

I disagree. It could be banned.
965  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 07, 2020, 01:49:33 PM
problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

When is the Aussie statute of limitations up?  Thanks.  

Never.

Franky is incorrect in that there is not necessarily a statute of limitation date for the ATO to pursue tax fraud charges once a case has been initiated.

https://www.ato.gov.au/About-ATO/Commitments-and-reporting/In-detail/FOI/Fraud-and-evasion-guidelines/

According to a court document released just a few weeks ago, the ATO was actively investigating Wright as of June 2018:



Everything else Franky said is just a baseless conspiracy theory. An interesting one, but not grounded in anything tangible.

When I used to chat with Craig [cause we were buds] he told me about the ATO.  He said he left Australia in part cause the high yearly paper profit Tax.  And that he reported his btc holdings upon exit which at that time were worth relatively little.  So any taxes to the commie Aussies he owes is minuscule compared to the current btc price and all the free forks.  In other words, the ATO has nothing on him cause he left when btc was cheap.  

Cause Craig is smart.  Like me.  



Trolls do not like such truth. It will destroy so much they re living and dreaming for.

They ll always ask you to deliver more proof whatsoever

But neither Satoshi nor you owe such (incl anonymous signing, lol) , its PoW to dig out sources for anybody. Do your own research
966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC/ETH contract in Ebay, looks very shady??? on: June 06, 2020, 09:26:36 PM
Just as always with mining contracts, it's most likely going to be either a scam, or a total waste of money. Probably this dude just decided to try out selling on eBay instead of creating his/her own cloud mining website.

Yep
967  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 06, 2020, 09:21:18 PM
Ira Kleiman can now go and tell the court, that Craig Wright, who after 2020 controls the Tulip Trust coins, wants to spend some of his early Bitcoins and to spend his coins anonymously he signed a message to some early blocks, that is pointing away from himself.
He should be jailed to avoid further damage.

Not exactly, but I've been very close. Next step: Jail!
https://cryptothenews.com/kleiman-legal-team-presents-new-evidence-of-craig-wrights-fabrication/

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...

Wright has the keys

While the new evidence was commented by many on Crypto Twitter as showing once and for all Wright is not Satoshi, that’s not the position of the Kleiman team.

They still think that he has access to significant BTC wealth and demand a share of it based on Wright’s alleged partnership with Dave Kleiman in mining the BTC. A week ago they stated that Wright has access to the Bitcoin holdings in question.

...

problem is .. ira and craig are not enemies. craig hired ira to be a 'frenemy' ira knows craig doesnt own anything. but craig bribed him to play along.
they are both on the same side trying to delay and cause drama at the communities expense. all so they can out-time the statute of limitations deadline on the australian tax fraud case.

ira has never intended to get any 'satoshi coins' ira knows there is no trust..
he is getting paid from craigs other scams cough investors cough. so whatever happens to the case craigs plan is to have it dismissed by his script or by ira's script. all just after the australian statute of limitation elapses.
is just a game to both of them

even with 100% proof craig never had any stash. Ira will either find another excuse to keep the drama alive for craig a bit longer. or when the date lapses. then dismiss the case

what needs to be done is someone else try to do something to get craig locked up

Interesting, but maybe someone else is paying Ira to destroy Craig's story. Do you have any info to backup your statement?

... sure, someone has to pay for the show each. I ve only seen docs proof that one side has / had a lot of property
968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin should never become fully anonymous- don't fool yourself on: June 06, 2020, 09:09:38 PM
Which government will allow anonymous currencies?

Not just governments, banks too. Coinbase lost their UK banking relationship with Barclays. Their new provider made dropping Zcash a condition of doing business with them.

The future of proper anon coins is likely to be non existent on approved exchanges. No doubt they'll do fine elsewhere as they provide a genuine use case.

What is genuine for fully ano paying? You ll never be able proof real ownership... so what u receive is always confiscatable. Exchange of goods / services for money is always a legal relevant contract. Not possible ano
969  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 06, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
Hoffentlich nicht Kursrelevant

https://decrypt.co/31463/bitcoin-segwit-bug-fix-could-lock-wallet-users-out-funds
970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 06, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
Some day, you will learn that a blockchain which is unhampered by a centrally-planned production quota on transactions has a value independent of whatever other characters also see value in such an innovation.

Pretty much every part of this sentence is untrue, or at best incorrect.

- Bitcoin's block size cap is the result of consensus among the Bitcoin network and is not "centrally-planned."
- This limits the "production quota on transactions" only when talking about on-chain transactions.
- The value of anything is determined by those who value it. It is an opinion which requires human beings to formulate and does not exist on its own accord.

Conclude whatever you want about the value of huge blocks which have centralized your coin down to a relative handful of nodes -- I don't really care. What you don't get to pretend (without ridicule) is that BSV is in any shape or form the manifestation of "Satoshi's vision."

The Faketoshi Factor is still heavily priced in... I expect it to gradually fade away and put the fair market value of BSV at somewhere between $30 - $40 a coin. It may be years before it sinks this low, however, especially if BTC starts to take off and brings along the altcoin market with it (as it is wont to do).

May 20th, 2019: price of BSV is $61.70
May 21st, 2019: Craig registers copyright for Bitcoin white paper, price goes up 20%
May 29th, 2019: China "fake news tweet" says Wright transferred 50,000 BTC to Binance
June 25th, 2019: BSV reaches local high of $242
August 27th, 2019: Judge Reinhart rules against Wright, orders payment of 500,000 BTC to Kleiman estate
September 19th, 2019: Wright and Kleiman enter settlement discussions
December 19th, 2019: BSV reaches local low of $80
January 11th, 2020: Judge Bloom drops sanctions on Wright, gives him more time to receive documents from bonded courier
January 15th, 2020: BSV reaches local high of $343

Then pretty much every noticeable move since then has been tied to coronavirus economic fallout.

You speak of hacked and segshit injected segwit coin?

Btc is not bitcoin.

Lots of issues and tech dept

Not ready for finance


https://decrypt.co/31463/bitcoin-segwit-bug-fix-could-lock-wallet-users-out-funds


BSV  is BitCoin. Fixxed and ready to use
971  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 06, 2020, 11:02:02 AM


 Roll Eyes

His board kicked him out ?

 Grin
972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 06, 2020, 10:52:32 AM
Lots of 'blockchain' projects live and try to figure out

Cheap costs of running

No issues with governance

https://coingeek.com/vodafone-to-use-blockchain-as-tracking-tool-for-europe-power-grids/

Will they run on tcp like open value protocol fully open to scale?

973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 05, 2020, 06:29:12 PM
Quite frankly. If you sell segwit as BitCoin u must count loose screws

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bitstocks_/status/1268936050086498304

Bcore cannot count nodes... just lies
974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OK! Who is THIS Bitcoiner? on: June 05, 2020, 12:15:45 PM
Roll Eyes

The flat-earthers of Bitcoin obviously doesn't have the word "sarcasm" in their vocabulary. It's also clear the troll didn't read how the topic is developing for context, and he might also be posting information without sources.


You never believe any source links on any issues, part of the reason you stay stupid.
If you want a source , Try using google, Confused_Fury.


BUT in globe-Earth, the news sources in Google say the deli employee CALLED 911, and said George Floyd used a counterfeit $20.00 bill. OK?

"Bitcoin fixes this", by running a full node, validate own transactions, without involving the police.

Full node mines, per definition


No, a full node validates. A miner can mine WITHOUT being a full node, which what they do today.

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a raspi pi does not help - rather provenly slows things down and costs money that ppl could use better - dont tell crap


If there's only one Bitcoin node, you believe blocks will be found in less than 10 minutes every round? Cool

I'm curious on what your opinion is in this topic, kindly educate us, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249795.0

Prof miners without high-end setup and the full chain high end DB node to verify - don't exist any more

Non - miners are just depending on what miners write - the network graph is miners do the job - get paied and do not risk that they lose a block, so they verify FIRST and PROFESSIONAL.

no need of lacking behind with a funny raspi, and wannabee verfi too late. They are just slow relay / followers in that network graph.


Help: Draw a flow chart for the processs and you see

975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OK! Who is THIS Bitcoiner? on: June 05, 2020, 07:09:51 AM
Roll Eyes

The flat-earthers of Bitcoin obviously doesn't have the word "sarcasm" in their vocabulary. It's also clear the troll didn't read how the topic is developing for context, and he might also be posting information without sources.


You never believe any source links on any issues, part of the reason you stay stupid.
If you want a source , Try using google, Confused_Fury.


BUT in globe-Earth, the news sources in Google say the deli employee CALLED 911, and said George Floyd used a counterfeit $20.00 bill. OK?

"Bitcoin fixes this", by running a full node, validate own transactions, without involving the police.

Full node mines, per definition



a raspi pi does not help - rather provenly slows things down and costs money that ppl could use better - dont tell crap
976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication on: June 05, 2020, 07:08:19 AM
It's quite entertaining to watch CWS make more and more outlandish claims, he already sounds like a flat-earther or an anti-vaxxer who denies reality that is obvious to everyone else. But I doubt this will end anytime soon, even if we imagine the best case scenario when the scammer gets sent to jail, the scam will continue for as long as there are morons who give him their money. It will all end only when he'll no longer have resources to support his shitcoin, hire shills, organize conferences, etc.

Its not 'outlandish'

He speaks as a finacial auditor with legal background

Signing is a legal act - and make no sense without identity

Just that u can sign technically digital also txs doesn't make such legally compliant - cause many reasons

977  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More info about Satoshi Nakamoto needed for research on: June 05, 2020, 06:14:41 AM
plenty
Plenty of information about how fake, lying and misleading Wrong is. Indeed, lots of information to digest.



I see lots of evidence and real world proofs - but with biased attitude u cannot
978  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Telegram groups for Bitcoin on: June 04, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
Telegram is toxic

Don't go there
979  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More info about Satoshi Nakamoto needed for research on: June 04, 2020, 02:24:02 PM
Research material is here

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/kleiman-v-wright/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

plenty
980  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication on: June 04, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
I am just tired of hearing his lies. If I were the judge I would have already jailed him for contempt of court.
How can a man lie straight multiple of times and still get a media attention? He is not even the president of US.
The case is also venturing away from it's intention and getting too long. There should be a judgement soon and make him liable for the klemein estates loss.

so  Kleiman is Satoshi now ?  I see some other guys now on the helper list - but more to help Satoshi to hide

Id read some docs from the court - even such Ira produced - (accidently?)  forgot to redact important stuff

There is much more true than you might ever dreamed of

>> but quite funny how much desparation is there to 'sign' such a dumb msg - and stay ano ?
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