Has your company had so far any success in recuperating any stolen or otherwise embezzled fiat money or cryptocurrencies? If there are 8 people working part-time + investors + the CEO + lawyers to support, the company has to go after medium to high-value scams. I think that means that any commission from the recovered money can take years to trickle down. And that's assuming the company (or the CEO, I presume) is persuasive enough to have the victims send him money in advance to pay for lawyers.
And anyone who runs a business will know the struggles of getting people to pay. It seems that when business is involved a lot of people lose their personal morals, and will do anything to not pay, and this is in the real world where identity is known. This would be even worse when consulting with anonymous people involved in cryptocurrencies. The idea of preventing scams via exposure, and supporting those that have been scammed is a good one, but the execution probably wouldn't be that effective in cryptocurrencies. Especially, since you would be dealing on a global level with all kinds of jurisdictions, and if you've ever read up on law or know a little about it then you'd know that the laws within your own jurisdiction can be very hard to stay up to date on. Lawyers are constantly keeping up with this sort of thing, and when there's a global issue there's probably hundreds of lawyers, and different official involved. You would need a rather large network demanding high amounts in salary to be able to pull this off. |
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Would be good to know a well working system to report most efficiently. "Just" hit the report-button or better send a PM to the CampaignManager (wouldn´t that be to many?).
So you @Welsh do collect reported posts by Cryptotalk-participants and send those further? That sounds kinda efficient to me.
PMing shouldn't be too excessive. Although, you might want to get permission from the campaign managers themselves whether they would like to opt in to reporting users. Any posts I notice that are made by signature campaign participants I will consider contacting the campaign manager if most of theirs posts are against the signature campaigns guidelines. Unfortunately, I don't know all of them so usually I only detect spam related ones or generic responses which have been repeated a thousand times. Sometimes these posts won't need to be deleted as per forum guidelines, but might still be infringing the signature campaign guidelines. I don't want users using the report to moderator button to report users for breaking signature campaign rules. It should only be used for users breaking forum guidelines. |
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There's definitely quite a few altcoin related scam accusations in the main Bitcoin scam accusation thread, and we definitely get accusations within the Altcoin Discussion section. I wouldn't be against creating a section for Altcoin related scam accusations. It might help with better organization of the whole section, honestly.
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also as a p.s.: now there are people going around using "reporting to campaign manager" as a retaliatory threat when they lose arguments on the forum, so as a preemptive caution please be careful yahoo62278, there might be some completely false reports coming in as well in the upcoming days...
This happens both in forum moderation, and signature campaign management. Although, I don't think its an issue as Yahoo seems to have a good head on their shoulders so I'm confident they can determine when this is happening. Nah, I'm not looking for a reward and I don't have the energy to search post histories and all that right now. It's so much easier just to report a shitpost to the mods and hope they deal with it. And yeah, I've no doubt that there will be more members getting banned from the campaign. Since there's no selection process, Yahoo62278 has to deal with these knuckleheads after the fact. I'd pull my hair out.
That's fair enough. If I handle the reports, and I think its worth messaging a campaign manager then I likely will do so. |
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I think it's a good idea, but I'm not convinced as to how effective/useful it would be.
A minority of campaigns are run by good managers who pay attention to their participants, and these managers are going to pick up on spam anyway. The majority of campaigns are run by managers who don't give two hoots about who they are recruiting or the amount of nonsense trash their participants are spamming across the forum. We could spend days reporting these users and their posts to their relevant campaign manager, and absolutely nothing would come of it.
True, although I guess this works both ways. If there's a public thread with all the contact information, and a way for users to report users on that thread then it will all be public. If the campaign managers aren't listening, and are completely ignoring legitimate reports then it could be a reason to investigate their management of the campaign. If you're a campaign manager you should be doing your job in reviewing participants somewhat regularly. Ideally, before every pay date. If they aren't listening to community reports, then they likely won't be reviewing users either. Which ultimately means they are collecting a pay check, and not doing their job. Unless, their agreement to get paid if simply just escrowing the payments, and sending them off every payment cycle. I'd be willing to create, and maintain a thread where users can report signature campaign participants publicly, and then compose a message, and include all those that have been reported to the signature campaign manager. |
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I share the opinion of DiamondCardz in that we shouldn't be implementing features natively into the forum for signature campaigns. Although, having said that this is a good idea in order to encourage users not only to report to the moderators, but also to the signature campaign managers as the forum rules, and signature campaigns rules differ. My suggestion for an alternative would be to create a dedicated thread with all the signature campaigns contact details or creating a userscript in order to report these users to the signature campaign managers.
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I was whitelisted by hilariousandco a few weeks back, hoping that would reduce the delay of 4 seconds between reports: it doesn't!
So once you have enough activity to wait only 4 seconds between posts, there's nothing else that can increase your reporting speed.
This might be worth looking at as 4 seconds when reporting certain types of spam can be annoying for the reporter, and deter them from reporting. I know there's tools out there such as Suchmoon's where you can add reports to queues, but having it natively within the forum so there's not such a wait. I think anyone over 5000+ good reports should be only limited to a 1 second cool down. Then, that will likely prevent too many errors/requests, and still not interrupt with reporting. |
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This is probably an attempt to steal accounts. I'm hoping users here have enough logic to avoid giving their sensitive data out. Forgetting everything else, should you really be judging someone when you yourself are wearing a signature campaign code? Isn't that a bit too hypocritical?
Wearing a signature doesn't mean you are here for just money. There's some noteworthy users on the forum who wear signatures, but their primary reason for being here is to discuss Bitcoin or related technology. Its unfair to assume that everyone who has a signature is here for the money as that simply isn't true. |
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You haven't been banned, but your thread was trashed because of the fake conversations getting out of hand. Especially, because a lot of those accounts were getting banned, and a lot of replies were deleted. However, your agency or whatever continued to post fake conversations within the thread. Therefore, the thread has been trashed. You haven't been banned yet which means you're free to open your thread up again. However, if the same sort of pattern ensures its much more likely that the issue will be dealt with more severely.
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I had no idea I should have been reporting shitposters to Yahoo62278--I've made a few reports to the moderators instead, and I've found quite a few members who probably shouldn't be getting paid to post.
I reported users who weren't quite breaking forum rules or only the odd one or two of their posts were to be deleted. However, if their general post history was of low quality I sent them to Yahoo to deal with it. There's still time to send those names to Yahoo. I'm sure there will be many more users removed from the campaign in the coming weeks. |
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i finally finished voting on everything! it feels like there were many duplicates specially with the pizza guy and HODL guy which leads me to say if there were an option to categorize the entries based on post or at least give a warning to those who submit the same post that there is a duplicate entry with the same link and list the captions so you could only submit if you had an alternative (better) caption for example.
Hopefully, everyone is looking at existing submissions, and then voting on the duplicates according to the caption. If they think the caption of the newly submitted option is better than the already submitted then you can vote for the new one. I'm assuming that the duplicates will be removed once the best caption has been selected. You are dam lucky. I have option of submitting 4 captions only If anyone wants to submit more then they can post in this thread with their ideas, and someone with more than enough submissions could possibly add it for you. |
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Yeah, keeping the forum clean is enough for me I don't need a reward. Obviously, appreciate the sentiment here, but either add it to someone else's name on this list that you think is deserving or add it onto a constructive user within the campaign to further encourage them to make effort with their posts. Another alternative would be to add it to the art contest winner, whatever you wish to do.
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Earned-merits or trust points are not determinant factors for post quality of posters. They are only one of componental factors and they serve as supplementary inclusive factors for poster's quality assessment. Generally, to assess post quality of one user, readers have to consider lots of things:
Earned merit would be at the very top of the list when assessing someone's post quality. Earned merits means more than total merit as a lot of users got free merit for having over a certain amount of activity. In fact, I would think that a lot of users here disregard total amount of merit, and look at how much the user has earned in the last 120 days. Of course, is is combined with taking a look at their post history personally, but is normally the #1 indicator that someone is posting good quality content. |
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There's no problem with getting stock images because it depends on the way how will you use it creatively. Your senses will be used to make a better image/art using those stock images or vectors on google. Well, There's a part of me that I also dislike stock images where they use it just to cover up the whole image/art then adding text of 'bitcointalk.org', less effort you know.
Using stock images can have an amazing composition, and should be recognition as a talent on its own. I remember seeing a recreation of a old painting with just stock images. It was incredible, and took the person over 80 hours, and 1000s of stock images. ...so are you guys gonna give me any suggestion(s) or should I just give up?  Increase your resolution of the pictures, and they won't be so small, and blurred. The only issue with that is your final piece with everything stitched together is going to be huge. |
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I've been keeping an eye on the thread for a while, and despite having their posts deleted, and their accounts banned they continued to post so they've ended up in the trashcan.
I'm seeing this more, and more outside of the altcoin section, and mainly within the gambling sections.
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I'm assuming this is theymos' attempt at art. In all seriousness, I'm guessing this current layout issues is due to editing some code, and temporarily breaking something?
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Judging by the entries submitted so far, many of which seem to consist of the text "bitcointalk.org" or a Bitcoin logo slapped on an assembly of entirely unattributed Google image search results, I think there needs to be some clarification on this rule.  Theymos has merited some users who have used stock images so I'd assume its fine. They probably won't be winning submissions, but effort can still be made with pre existing stock images. I highly doubt slapping a Bitcointalk logo on something will get you win considering some of the talented submissions we've had. |
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Because of the sudden disappearance (his last posts don't look like someone who's about to leave, I always assumed something bad must have happened. The best scenario I can think of would be jail, the worst scenario would be either an accident, or killed.
If Satoshi is a group of people, the sudden disappearance because of an accident or jail is much less likely. In that case "in hiding" would be a possible scenario, but I don't think Bitcoin was such a big deal back then so that doesn't make sense either.
Satoshi; whether a group of people or a singular person likely has a life outside of Bitcoin, and being in hiding doesn't necessarily mean its related to Bitcoin. Considering how careful Satoshi was to remain anonymous, it's quite likely that there wasn't really a "disappearance" of some particular entity. Someone, who could be otherwise well known (but definitely not CSW) and perhaps remains very much engaged in Bitcoin, decided to stop using that pseudonym, which was created for the purpose of kick-starting the project and was no longer needed when the project picked up speed.
And, we've had several people over the last decade get accused of being Satoshi including a few developers. If my memory serves me correctly I believe at one point Gavin was accused of being Satoshi, although lets be honest Gavin got accused of a lot of things after going to the FBI to talk them through Bitcoin. |
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I'm by no means a artist, but I'm thinking I might throw something together as a sort of tribute. I'll probably put a poem together for the anniversary also. Hi, theymos. Will the creation of video art to celebrate the 10th anniversary of this forum be counted?
Or is it only limited to making images, 3D and GIF?
Its art so I would assume so. Maybe, don't create a feature length star wars movie, and you'll be alright! |
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