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4021  Other / Meta / Re: Decreasing number of forum users on: December 24, 2019, 06:37:49 PM
Its true in general that forums are becoming a thing of the past. A lot of users are moving onto more point based systems such as Reddit. However, forums will always have a place within a niche for worthy more in depth conversations. Reddit has a community of karma whores with mostly low value content. However, that's by design. Reddit wasn't created for good conversations which can be read back throughout the years. No doubt that both Twitter, and Reddit have their own little community within their sub reddits none have a community like a forum can have.

However, this is the forum that everyone will know about, why? Because it has a history, and a good one at that. Satoshi created the forum when he was looking to launch Bitcoin, and for that reason alone people will want to become part of its history. I like to think we've moved past being reliant on Satoshi's name though, and have made a name for ourselves. Bitcointalk is where you come to discuss anything Bitcoin uncensored. I can't name another forum which treats freedom of speech how this forum treats it. Its a very rare thing to find these days.

The introduction of the merit system definitely played a part in weeding out the plethora of alternate account farms that were going on at the time. This forum has become a place where you have to work hard to be among the higher ranks. This isn't a place like Reddit or Twitter where you can get your followers, and upvotes from nothing. The forum has its own ecosystem, and its own little community.

The majority of regular posters on the forum I can name, and I quite like that. However, as others have suggested when Bitcoin hits new peaks Bitcointalk.org will always gather more temporary traffic. This is obvious by the amount of registrations, posts and reports the moderators have. This is testament enough that Bitcointalk will forever be relevant, and the place to come. If new users of Bitcoin are getting interested in Bitcoin then you can bet your buck they'll come to Bitcointalk at some point.
4022  Economy / Reputation / Re: Yobit campaign participants and supporters on: December 24, 2019, 05:54:42 PM
Every member who gives negative to people for crap reasons deserves to get negative.
When someone gives you a negative, you give a rose?

What empty people are there among us
Nope, they simply get excluded from users trust list. That's how the trust system is suppose to work.

i m tired of lynch culture in this forum.
I normally don't like how other users don't give others chances, and admit everyone makes mistakes. However, this isn't the case here. No one is going around painting the forum red. Instead, they are giving their input into the situation, and trying to prevent users for falling for this. Which unfortunately does not seem like its working.
4023  Other / Meta / Re: Prejudice against signature campaigns on: December 24, 2019, 02:29:48 PM
Stop the hate against people who have signature campaigns.
Ah, this isn't prejudice against those who partipate in signature campaigns. TMAN hates everyone equally on this forum, and we love them for it.

Seriously though, I actually love some of the "personal" signatures we see. There were a lot more a few years ago, but they usually point out useful information or decent start ups.

I’ve grown to not see signatures at all, with a few exceptions. Not because there is any active feature on my profile that blocks them, but rather more, my reading habits skip them without giving them a second thought.
Everyone does this without even realizing they're doing it. I call it my internal ad block. For example, where this is most noticeable is advertisements on TV. You could be engrossed in your favorite tv show one second, and not hear a horn going off next to your ear. The next moment when the advertisements come on you could earn a pin drop from outside. If you're British advert breaks have turned into put on the tea breaks.

signature campaigns are "forcing" to his users to post arround 15-25 post per week, this is like "incentiving" someone to spam this forum, obviously they want them to post with a high quality, but this in most of the cases, will not happend... maybe an easy solutions is to force signature campaign managers to pay to his users for a max of 5-10 post per week, maybe with this measure, those post will have a better quality.
Some campaigns are now imposing no minimum which takes the pressure off of users, and with a few exceptions there's generally more quality posts being put out.

4024  Other / Meta / Re: Merry Christmas to the Forum on: December 24, 2019, 02:27:41 PM
Might as well say it so it is understandable by all the local forums too:

Happy holidays, felices fiestas, اجازة سعيدة, Selamat berlibur, 節日快樂, sretni praznici, frohe feiertage, ευχάριστες διακoπές, חג שמח, bonne fêtes, buone vacanze, खुश छुट्टियाँ, 幸せな休日, fijne feestdagen, 행복한 휴일,  masaya pista opisyal maligayang kapistahan, Wesołych świąt, boas festas, cчacтливыx пpaздникoв, sărbători fericite, glædelig ferie, lykkelig ferie, glada helgdagar, iyi tatiller, ...

Note: I may have screwed-up on a few though.

Edit: @jonemil24, I'll take your word over Google's for it ...

Nadolig Llawen! (I still pretend there's enough Welsh people here to justify a local forum Wink)
4025  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: December 24, 2019, 02:11:37 PM
For honest, it's very complicated topic. Of course, it's too easy to give something labels or tell full of pathos words something like "Your morals should come before anything". Do this people (who still promoting Yobit) taking someone to invest funds in InvestBox by force? No. They just advertising such things. The same with gambling on that forum and evens bookmakers like Sportsbet.io (i know how bookmakers works very good. If you're winning too much, they mostly blocking your account and take your funds to themselves). It's shitty to tell "Oh, gambling is fair with their advertisement" because it is not. At least, i don't see any BIG RED BANNER with words something like: "In a one row, you have winning chance 50 %, but to win 3 times in a row you need to be enough lucky, because chance of winning is 15 %. And in fact, in long term you will lose all your money to us"
I do believe your morals should come before anything. However, I admit we are all human, and we will be conflicted. This is why there's a massive difference in opinion here. What I was referring to when I initially made that post is everyone waiting on Yahoo to make the decision, and not themselves. This to me from an outside point of view is admitting that there is likely an issue here or something they aren't certain about, but are willing to ignore it if Yahoo believes its fine.

This wasn't directed at users who are against my personal views. That's fine, and as I said we all have our own moral compasses, and they do change over time. I actually don't like gambling where the house has a edge, but that's the world we live in. Most gambling sites like you said will block your account if you're costing them money. Which, isn't a level playing ground in the first place because they are more than willing to take money from you. I think P2P gambling with no blocking of accounts is a more moral approach to this. I don't care if gambling sites take commission for offering a secure way of doing this.

You also don't see me or any other users going around, and red tagging users. I've never said I'm going to go, and paint the town red to whoever advertises this service. I talked about respect, and I probably would lose respect for those that are advertising InvestBox.


Doesn't mean it's immoral to buy an illegal AK47, or some Cocaine, but not on this forum..
Well yeah, if you use drugs, and dispose of them correctly then honestly that's your life. If you start leaving needles around the place, then I would say you're morally misguided. Same as with guns. You can own a rocket launcher, and a tank for all I care. As long as you aren't shooting up people.
4026  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: December 24, 2019, 01:48:18 PM

It shouldn't be a categorical offense to promote an exchange that is providing some valid services, simply because some other fringe products it offers are highly likely to lead to investors losing money...
But, Yobit have actually gone as far to say that "Everyone will get paid" which is not true, and they know that isn't true. Usually, when you invest in something in has the potential of going up because its an actual promising idea. However, here Yobit are highly likely to just drop the token whenever they want, and promote another to start the process all over again.

Promoting their exchange? I think I'm fine with users promoting their exchange as despite some complaints here, and there I don't think they have been outright scamming anyone. Although, I'd probably advise against using their exchange personally, but that's for personal reasons against a company that is operating this little side gig of theirs which I'm not going to hold others to the same values.

Promoting their InvestBox? Yeah, I am absolutely going to encourage others to not advertise that.

Or you can buy whatever you want.
Okay, so you use a mixer for buying things that are illegal. Okay, I'm assuming you use Tor or a VPN while doing this. Are we going to outright claim that anyone advertising Tor is lacking of morals? I don't know about you, but I don't use Tor for the "darkweb" or anything malicious. I use it when I want privacy. I've recently gone into this. I've used my home IP address on this forum because I trusted theymos with that information, yet since becoming a moderator I've had to use Tor Browser, and VPN's when visiting external links that are in reports. That doesn't mean I'm encouraging the use of malicious acts with Tor, and I have advertised, and encouraged others to protect their privacy with the likes of a VPN, and the Tor Project.

We could have this discussion all day long about morals. We are all going to have our own moral compasses, and I'm not blaming users if they're conflicted here, and that's why many users are trying to offer their input. However, comparing Chipmixer with an investment scheme promising that everyone gets paid is like comparing the black plague with a common cold.

Mixers don't usually advertise that their customers will earn interest, neither do they advertise the fact that you can use it to money launder. They advertise you have a right to privacy, just like the Tor Project, and VPN's. Here's an example of why I would personally use a mixing service. If you're a user on  a public forum which has posted an address with a lot of Bitcoin in, then you could potentially become a target to hackers or even physical threat if your identity is known. This is where you can use a mixer to mix your coins to different addresses.
4027  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: December 24, 2019, 01:23:00 PM
No matter what one's moral views are, a BTT user should not be penalized for promoting one of the most well known crypto exchanges.

Many crypto exchanges are engaging in unethical practices like fake volume, pump & dump schemes, etc. and yet they are still highly popular because they also manage to fulfill some really valuable duties like market efficiency and liquidity.

As numerous users have already noted, an analogy can be drawn between promoting Chipmixer and Yobit's InvestBox:

you can choose to be a smart investor and use Investbox to make 0.1% on your BTC monthly without ever investing in any of the shit coins, or you may choose to be a gambler and pursue some short term wild gains in the massively inflated shitcoins (similarly Chipmixer service can be used for illicit activites, yet the marketer cannot and should not be held accountable for a potential abuse of a system that has other net benefits to the ecosystem)...

I agree the wording of the signature can be revised to be more honest, but trying to frame hundreds of Cryptotalk / Yobit participants would be one of the most harmful things this forum can do to itself and its user base...

I'm not sure how you can make this comparison. Chipmixer, can be used for illicit purposes yeah. Just like Bitcoin can, and cash can. I'm assuming you're referring to money laundering. However, we all use Bitcoin, and we all use cash. Chipmixer is a anonymity service which could potentially be used for illicit purposes, but so can cash.

Where as InvestBox have a special little fund somewhere, and are guaranteeing users that they will profit. Which is likely true in the early days of these tokens, and Yobit will continue "printing" these tokens off until they have earned enough profit before moving onto the next. What happens to the investors? They lose money, and users stop investing while Yobit push another token. Many users will end up losing money.

Also, we aren't trying to frame anyone. We are advising against changing your signature to InvestBox. If you have previously advertised Cryptotalk I don't care frankly.

Yobit controls when they stop supporting a coin, and Yobit knows that this will hurt many of its investors. Without any moral conviction they will move onto their next token, and promote that with 10% interest, and the whole process starts again. They'll continue supporting it until they believe it'll earn more by promoting a new, and exciting token. Investors will try to jump in early this time because they know the coin will be dropped eventually, and investors will be looking to get rid of the coin until it eventually reaches 1 satoshi, and no one buys it.

Well, at least this discussion has opened our eyes to the users who have morals, and those that are willing to lie down their morals for gain. The moderators, and Yahoo's opinion matter not, and even theymos' doesn't matter on this particular issue. However, what you decide for yourself does matter.

Stop kidding.
What about your morality?
Yoshit or mixers, what is the difference?
I know many scammers who scammed people by using Bitcoin mixers in our country.
Bitcoin mixers and Yoshit,  both are part of the Bitcoin/Crypto ecosystem.
You know many scammers that have scammed using a Bitcoin mixer? Give me some examples? Chipmixer allows users to mix their coins for privacy, and nothing more. If users are using the service to money launder that isn't the fault of Chipmixer or any other mixer for that matter or any other currency. Cash, has been known to be used for money laundering yet we don't all stop using cash on a daily basis.

Chipmixer promise no one that they will be earning interest, and will get money from a special fund. Chipmixer simply allows its users to have privacy. How is a service that allows privacy the same as one that is encouraging early investors to make money, knowing that they will make the decision to stop supporting a coin, move on to the next, and leave their investors getting hurt. They are going to be making the active decision to move onto the next token to earn more money.
4028  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: December 24, 2019, 01:03:18 PM
It seems that Yobit will be the next big heist of Bitcoin, and users are too distracted about earning money to realize.

Well, at least this discussion has opened our eyes to the users who have morals, and those that are willing to lie down their morals for gain. The moderators, and Yahoo's opinion matter not, and even theymos' doesn't matter on this particular issue. However, what you decide for yourself does matter.

You either choose to continue earning a good living with Yobit's shenanigans or you keep your respect. I don't think you can keep both. Also, no one here is blaming Yahoo, and I'm not sure why users are even mentioning that fact. No one here is calling out Yahoo. Its quite clear that Yobit have terrible customer support, and communication even with someone they have hired.

Considering that its a law to offer customer support here in the UK, and they are willing to put that so low on their priority list speaks volumes. The whole company is unprofessional, and all they care about is earning a quick buck as evidenced by this InvestBox shit.

Are you guys not concerned how they have operated by dropping this investment scheme on their campaign manager without Yahoo being notified? They have directly put Yahoo's reputation under the microscope because if we didn't know better we would have been asking a lot more questions instead of defending Yahoo. If I was Yahoo, I'd be extremely pissed off with how they've suddenly dropped a new project which Yahoo doesn't agree with, and have acted like its no big deal.

As for Yobits exchange. You may have had a positive experience with them, but the company has shown that they are willing to operate a  shitty project on the side, and by that indication I personally recommend you don't support it, and stop using their exchange as well.

Maybe Russia isn't best example, but my post was response to post above, that if legally operating exchange would do such things like Yobit do, their owners would be imprisoned. But in reality, in Russia nobody knows who is owners of Yobit.
And I don't see people butthurting about legal status of Yobit. It's all about shady things they are doing.
Their whole operation would not be allowed to operate in several countries due to the way they go about business. I've mentioned that its a requirement for businesses to offer customer support, but it seems that they barely offer that. I can't believe how lazy they've been in announcing a new "project" with InvestBox, and all they initially gave was a paragraph saying its not a scam, and there's a special fund where everyone is 100% getting paid. That is ridiculous.

Oh dude, just don't write such things, it looks too pitty. If someone says to me in real life "the money is irrelevant/doesn't matter/this is just a paper" i mostly ask him to give me all his money. For now, noone agreed to do such things  Smiley:
I disagree completely. It does matter. Your morals should come before anything, and earning money, and advertising this scam is going to hurt a lot of users in the future.
4029  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Free Raffle] GoldBacks Full Set | COME FAST HERE TOO DOUBLE WHAMMY DONT MISS OU on: December 23, 2019, 11:14:43 PM
Nice set, put me down.
4030  Economy / Services / Re: [SOLVED] Need some help with Wordpress on: December 23, 2019, 10:47:16 PM
No worries. Whenever you're in doubt just make a backup, and alter to your hearts content. If you mess up, and you will eventually completely mess up your site restore from the back up. If there's a problem ever with you importing your backup you can always give me a message, and I'll see if I can come up with a solution.

4031  Other / New forum software / Re: Epochtalk development overview. Current version:1.8.1(2019-12-04) on: December 23, 2019, 10:32:29 PM
Any bugs found would likely be appreciated. This is a open source piece of software so usually you just make the developers aware or commit yourself to fix the bug. If you've found an exploit it might be worth contacting theymos directly, and who knows he might give you something for your time. Even if it is just his appreciation.

Probably only worth contacting him over security issues though. See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309785.0
4032  Economy / Services / Re: Need some help with Wordpress on: December 23, 2019, 10:19:48 PM
I'm guessing you're using a caching plugin such as WP Super Cache?

Do you use an interface such as cpanel to host your site? You should be able to go into your files, and then navigate to the path that it indicates, and delete that file. Then you can import your existing site. Sometimes this can occur when you've used two different caching plugins, and they've both generated the advanced-cache.php file. Simply, copying it from the main plugin you intend to use to the other location should do the trick or deleting it. I'm assuming this is because you are trying to import a old copy of your website which had a different caching plugin installed.

Without seeing it I'm only taking stabs in the dark. However, I'd recommend highly against giving anyone access to your site without being able to record every change or check the integrity of the database.

If you're using a FTP client rather than cpanel. Then just navigate to wp-content/plugins/<caching plugin>. A lot of users tend to run into this problem whenever they attempt using two caching plugins, and some plugins might not advertise that this is an option primarily, but it may be an option.
4033  Economy / Reputation / Re: Have you seen Yobit's new signature design? on: December 23, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
If yahoo62278 stops managing the campaign, it's open for all shitposters again, and spammers with farmed accounts won't care if they're promoting a likely scam.
Until theymos bans their signature again.
it sounds like a ponzi scheme, and I doubt that Yahoo would willingly put his name to it. I haven't looked into it yet, but if this is what it seems it pretty much confirms the moral stand point of Yobit, and again if it is confirmed to be a ponzi scheme I'd personally urge everyone to stop using their exchange immediately. Ponzi's don't work, and aren't a good business model. Users will eventually get hurt, and its got to at least be questioned whether they are going to be paying early "investors" with exchange money.
4034  Other / Meta / Re: To the attention of the Mods and Admins, account farms abusing bounty. on: December 19, 2019, 03:33:23 PM
Doesn't seem like this was a side wide attack, and only specifically for that thread. It'll be interesting whether this continues after the thread has been unlocked. I'm glad that the thread was locked for a preventive measure as going through them manually was exhausting. However, I was also expecting to see this leak into other bounty threads, but it seems to be a targeted attack on this particular thread.
4035  Economy / Reputation / Re: Roobet.com not paying on their mistakes on: December 19, 2019, 03:25:58 PM
Lawfully they are fine what they did, but when it comes to morally the community seems divided. I think its down to the individual whether they want to use Roobet. I honestly thought they would have sorted this out just to make themselves look good, but they chose not too, and I imagine they'll lose loyal customers because of it.

Although, the thing is with the betting industry users don't care as long as they're getting their gambling fix. I've known many of gambling addicts who have been screwed by the casino they've been playing in, but still continue to play on because they just can't do without it. I'm not very familiar with this betting niche, but Roobet don't seem overly concerned about it.

I don't like the treatment of blocking Yahoo, and for that reason alone I'd probably avoid Roobet in the future.
4036  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] [Painting] GOD SATOSHI/GIRL WITH A BITCOIN EARRING on: December 19, 2019, 09:28:34 AM
Lot 1: 0.018
4037  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: NordVPN loading/startup time issue... on: December 16, 2019, 11:41:02 AM
You could possibly consider having NordVPN on your router instead of directly on your machine. If you don't want all of your connections to be using the VPN you could potentially create a dual modem, and router setup. Running dd-wrt software on the router with the VPN on it, and only connecting to that router whenever you require using the VPN.

I believe having dd-wrt, VPN, and scheduling a reboot fairly regular is one of the more secure ways of going about this. A benefit of this is router ram gets flushed every time its rebooted.  Not only that but the VPN will always be on, so there's no forgetting to connect via the application. You can also use a killswitch feature which will prevent any DNS leaks, and the internet won't connect without the VPN. This means less bloatware on your computer, and likely less mistakes as having the killswitch directly on your application means it needs to be running, unless you do it from your operating system instead.

This in return should offer a quick connection without having to connect via its application as its done through the commands on the router. Otherwise, putting your operating system on a SSD will increase load speed. The application itself works fine generally on both AMD, and Intel based software.

I am not a NordVPN customer for long time, kinda very new to them. When I try to connect the connection always fails and the message always says something like, "password verification failed".
The CS said resetting password do the job but it really do not work much. Is this normal?

I have intel system by the way.
You would need to provide a bit more information. Making sure that the password you are inputting is correct. A common issue users have is when their keyboard has changed language. Especially, from English (US) to English (UK).
4038  Other / Meta / Re: Is this a forum bug? on: December 15, 2019, 06:25:38 PM
You can temporarily view the thread by disabling cosmetic filtering for Bitcointalk.org without completely disabling your ad blocker. I'm wondering whether Ublock Origin doesn't like some of the BBCODE in that thread.

This seems the reason which I encountered the same as OP on my thread which I asked here. I'm using uBlock for some reason it blocks the whole op.
Cool, thanks for that. When I have time later I'll take a look at the page sources, and requests from popular ad blockers see what is going on. Its not immediately obvious to me.

However, this isn't a forum bug. Definitely something ad blockers are picking up on the contents of the post.
4039  Other / Meta / Re: Is this a forum bug? on: December 15, 2019, 06:18:36 PM
It appears that this is being blocked via a ad blocker. Are you using one? I'm unsure why this particular post is being blocked by it, but upon enabling an ad blocker the contents of the post disappear. I'll take a look at what might be causing this a little later.
4040  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Iphone X A1901 64GB Silver on: December 15, 2019, 04:34:07 PM
try to include prices for the items you sell, maybe people will be more interested if they know the price directly, especially if it gives a cheaper price, can you tell me, how much $ you will sell it.

Completely dependent on location as I would have to factor in shipping costs. I'd probably get this as a signed delivery. I've been offered £350 in fiat, but will be looking for a little bit more than that. Offers are welcome.
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