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Local / Mercadillo / Re: Sistema de trust
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on: October 18, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
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El mayor problema que hay ahora mismo es que se abusa del servicio de trust (ayer mismo habia alguien pagando por dejar malos trust). Tampoco entiendo que hace este hilo en el mercadillo.
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Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCHEAT.COM IS ONLY A HOAX?
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on: October 18, 2017, 07:08:43 PM
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Btcheat.com is a legit or only hoax? Please give some clarify becuase i feel that this is like a phising site  Yes it can't be true as they are giving more than $1 for just rolling free slots. But they have really high payout threshold 0.03 BTC which you can't reach without either inviting others or mining with your CPU (they are mining monero with it). Both of this activity will give you free spin and you might not earn anything on each of those spin (no autospin feature to save time). I will not spend my valuable time in this shit to reach that withdraw threshold. But on the other hand, casinos with faucets (say primedice/freebitcoin) follow the same MO. The only difference I see is that this website doesn't support deposits, so you would only waste you time for trying. |
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Economy / Services / Re: I need German IBAN/ACCOUNT
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on: October 18, 2017, 06:53:14 PM
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Hi,
I need german IBAN, I do not need my own account, if somebody just can resend me money from their account. Of course we will make a deal and I will pay for that. Please if you have som possibilities to do that, write me.
Thank you
Hope, noone will be so naiv to do that. IBAN is only for receiving, so as far as I know, he cannot steal anything |
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Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: El Bitcoin con el porno forman un equipo genial
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on: October 17, 2017, 09:52:51 PM
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Es interesante, en el mundo del porno se habla de mucho dinero... Aunque hoy día para el porno debe ofrecerse un servicio que vaya mas allá de lo común... Amigo, en los foros de internet suele haber una bonita regla no escrita (con sentido) que dice lo siguiente: Traer hilos a la vida despues de que esten muertos y enterrados, esta mal (a no ser que haya una razon de peso Ahora viene mi pregunta: ¿Que necesidad habia de remover el pasado?, este hilo llevaba 2 años sin vivir.... |
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Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / A la venta 1000 BTCMoon
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on: October 17, 2017, 08:13:32 PM
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Por lo que he podido investigar, el precio de la CIO ha sido de 0.2$, y las proximas rondas esta programado que suba a 0.5/0.7. Dispongo de 1000 unidades de esta divisa, que quiero vender. Puede ser una buena inversión para la gente que le gusta el hold a largo plazo.
Mi precio: 0.35EUR/BTCMoon (en BTC)
Interesados, escribid por aqui o privado
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Local / Servicios / Re: Como vencer el : PROVABLY FAIR!
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on: October 17, 2017, 07:16:01 PM
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PROVABLY FAIR es una sistema para calcular numeros de manera aleatoria, no se puede vencer porque no es algo que haya que vencer. Es mas, muchos casinos y casas de apuestas utilizan este sistema por la transparecia que ofrece. Tu pregunta responde mas a querer hackear/hacer trampas en los sitios que tienen este sistema.
No tiene que ver con hacer trampas, ni hackear, es buscar la manera de vencer el Sistema, si es un sistema quiere decir que no es perfecto, ádeben existir estrategias matemáticas para poder ganar. Mi pregunta está en que estrategias usar para ello. No las hay, utiliza la semilla de usuario, la aleatoria y la del servidor. Una de ellas es siempre desconocida por el usuario para no poder cambiarla y conseguir un resultado comprometido. Para proteger tanto a los usuarios como a los operadores; si se puedese "vencer" nadie tendria casinos ni nada porque serian perdidas millonarias constantes. Y permiteme decirte que eso si es hacer trampas Pero el sistema está diseñado para hacer perder al usuario, osea, eso quiere decir que siempre vas a dejar que pierdas , porque crees que es trampa... y no es trampa hacer perder al usuario... Es interesante tu punto de vista. No, el sistema no esta pensado para hacer perder a nadie. Lo que pasa es que los casinos suelen tener algo llamado HOUSE EDGE, que es un porcentaje (normalmente pequeño) que viene a ser su beneficio. Por ejemplo Primedice tiene un house edge del 1%, por eso no puedes apostar a mas de un 99% de posibilidades de victoria. El sistema provably fair es transparente, no programable y fiable |
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Local / Servicios / Re: Como vencer el : PROVABLY FAIR!
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on: October 17, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
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PROVABLY FAIR es una sistema para calcular numeros de manera aleatoria, no se puede vencer porque no es algo que haya que vencer. Es mas, muchos casinos y casas de apuestas utilizan este sistema por la transparecia que ofrece. Tu pregunta responde mas a querer hackear/hacer trampas en los sitios que tienen este sistema.
No tiene que ver con hacer trampas, ni hackear, es buscar la manera de vencer el Sistema, si es un sistema quiere decir que no es perfecto, ádeben existir estrategias matemáticas para poder ganar. Mi pregunta está en que estrategias usar para ello. No las hay, utiliza la semilla de usuario, la aleatoria y la del servidor. Una de ellas es siempre desconocida por el usuario para no poder cambiarla y conseguir un resultado comprometido. Para proteger tanto a los usuarios como a los operadores; si se puedese "vencer" nadie tendria casinos ni nada porque serian perdidas millonarias constantes. Y permiteme decirte que eso si es hacer trampas |
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Local / Servicios / Re: Como vencer el : PROVABLY FAIR!
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on: October 17, 2017, 12:57:05 PM
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PROVABLY FAIR es una sistema para calcular numeros de manera aleatoria, no se puede vencer porque no es algo que haya que vencer. Es mas, muchos casinos y casas de apuestas utilizan este sistema por la transparecia que ofrece. Tu pregunta responde mas a querer hackear/hacer trampas en los sitios que tienen este sistema.
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to get started on escrowing?
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on: October 17, 2017, 12:22:02 PM
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If im right you must be aleast sr.member to become escrow there are some members here offering a free escrow so they will gain a positive feedback. Escrow is not an easy thing you must be a very trustworthy here in the forum
If there are members offering free escrow to get positive feedback this means that they're trust farming which is not allowed.  I think that trust farming is more like asking for a lot of cheap loans from reputable members, so that they leave positive trust. Many people do offer a service for free when they start at it (see signature designers). |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to get started on escrowing?
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on: October 16, 2017, 10:08:41 PM
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Become at least a hero member here which means you successfully spent around 480 days on the forum.
Yes it will give others an assurance because he's a hero member but still it is not the total basis of becoming an escrow. I agree with Darkstar, get the trust normally and you'll gain the trust of the community. Most of the escrow too came from aspiring escrow up until they've made and gain the trust of the community and was able to make a lot of trades here in the forum. Yeah, i thought so. The problem is that if you need people to trust you in order to gain trust, how can you make the first deal (i don't know if the point is quite clear here).
I'll remind you that don't ever try to buy trust or do trust farming, it's not the right way. Just deal the usual way as if you need some funds or you want to sell stuffs to other people just like a normal business. Well, I happen to find the position of the escrow as something really interesting in the whole people work with bitcoin, and it seems like something, i don't know... enjoyable? I feel it has similarities like being a moderator in forums, doing it just because even if no one tells you to do so, it is quite of a crutial part of the whole system
It's interesting but it's the most important person in a deal, you have a big responsibility to make every deal successful. And if something goes wrong, you have to be fair of the both sides to make them both satisfied. But there's a lot of people already who are already offering escrow service and I guess that's enough to help every transactors with their deal. Well, thanks for the advice, this is mainly why I created the thread: to know how things are at the moment, and to make a kind of a "future plan". PS: trust farming is like the most stupid thing I've ever heard, I mean, paying unneccesary interests for a green number? |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to get started on escrowing?
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on: October 16, 2017, 09:04:52 PM
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May I ask why you're interested in doing it out of pure curiosity? It seems like a potential universe of ball ache for not a great deal of gain. This forum is infested with slugs who'll go all out to rape each other and I assume escrows get regularly caught in the middle. I'd say if you'd earned enough trust to be escrowing you could probably find a way to capitalise on it better with straightforward trading of some sort. One way to learn how it's done would be to check the profiles of this forum's highest profile escrows and read all their posts. You'll be able to follow the arc of how they go to where they are. It might take bloody ages but it'll all be on the page to be picked up. This guy has now possibly the worst trust rating on the forum, but he was very active trading and escrowing until it all went wrong - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020;sa=showPosts;start=11400Well, I happen to find the position of the escrow as something really interesting in the whole people work with bitcoin, and it seems like something, i don't know... enjoyable? I feel it has similarities like being a moderator in forums, doing it just because even if no one tells you to do so, it is quite of a crutial part of the whole system |
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Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How to get started on escrowing?
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on: October 16, 2017, 07:53:44 PM
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Get trusted basically. If you haven't traded with anyone who risked funds with you, you haven't shown that you can handle XBTC without scamming. By the time you are trusted enough to be an escrow, you'll probably have people go up to you asking to escrow their trade even if you don't have a thread. Simply being on the forums for a year is not enough trust to be an escrow, as there are hundreds of thousands of accounts that are over that age that most people wouldn't trust.
Yeah, i thought so. The problem is that if you need people to trust you in order to gain trust, how can you make the first deal (i don't know if the point is quite clear here). Become at least a hero member here which means you successfully spent around 480 days on the forum.
He must be Involved into 100s of trades(Not small even big and huge ones) before starting and have a good standing on the forum.
Must have proper security setup to handle coins(So, his wallet won't get hacked while giving service to customers) and should have a backup to cover loses due to his fault.
Must have knowledge about nearly all type of things that are being escrowed by him.
and...
The list has much more things to cover that can be added but for now, it's enough.
Quite as much as above... At first I thought about trying to enter through steam trades, as my steam account is quite "leveled", but the the real question came into my mind: do people really need that type of service?
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Economy / Service Discussion / How to get started on escrowing?
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on: October 16, 2017, 07:39:25 PM
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After being around the forums for about a year, I find the escrow service a really interesting one, and would like to be able to be one myself when I rank up a little bit more. I guess that there are still some key points I'd need to know on how to becoming a good escrow (basically not getting a shiny red trust from day 0). So there goes my question, any tips on how to be an escrow?
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