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November 10, 2023, 12:02:34 PM
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Today match, Afghanistan team won toss and chose to bat first in the pitch. Afghanistan performance was very bad in today match. They just scored 197 runs in 44 overs by losing 7 wickets. This target was not small for South Africa team. In past games, South Africa team gave a vet big target to opposite team and also chase down huge target. That's why, they are in 2 Nd position in points table. A Omarzai performance from Afghanistan teams was brilliant and this single batsman scored a good runs and still not dismissed. A Omarzai scored 68 runs from 90 balls with six 4s and one 6s in today game. South Africa team also is in full form in today game, now let's see how they will perform in batting lineup because bowling lineup performance was outstanding.

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November 16, 2023, 10:16:31 AM
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Babar Azam step down as captain from all three formats and guess who has replaced him as captain? Shaheen Afridi will captain Pakistan in T20 while Shan Masood will captain Pakistan in Test format. Shaheen shah has a strong lobby in PCB who is backed by his father in law Shahid Afridi. Despte his poor performance in ODI World Cup he has given the role of captaincy in T20 format. Shan Masood who was not even part of Pakistan test team is now included as captain.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/babar-azam-resigns-as-pakistan-captain-in-all-formats-1408942

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November 16, 2023, 10:42:07 AM
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Babar Azam step down as captain from all three formats and guess who has replaced him as captain? Shaheen Afridi will captain Pakistan in T20 while Shan Masood will captain Pakistan in Test format. Shaheen shah has a strong lobby in PCB who is backed by his father in law Shahid Afridi. Despte his poor performance in ODI World Cup he has given the role of captaincy in T20 format. Shan Masood who was not even part of Pakistan test team is now included as captain.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/babar-azam-resigns-as-pakistan-captain-in-all-formats-1408942

I am not sure what good this can do to the Pakistani team. He will be replaced by whom? The most prominent name that I am hearing is that of Shaheen Shah Afridi, but I am quite skeptical about his role as the captain. Even as an opening bowler, there have been numerous occasions when he crumbled under pressure. I would rather go with someone with a bit more maturity, such as Fakhar Zaman or Mohammad Rizwan. At least I would prefer a batsman rather than one of the bowlers. Shaheen Shah needs more time to learn maturity.

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November 16, 2023, 11:04:14 AM
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Babar Azam step down as captain from all three formats and guess who has replaced him as captain? Shaheen Afridi will captain Pakistan in T20 while Shan Masood will captain Pakistan in Test format. Shaheen shah has a strong lobby in PCB who is backed by his father in law Shahid Afridi. Despte his poor performance in ODI World Cup he has given the role of captaincy in T20 format. Shan Masood who was not even part of Pakistan test team is now included as captain.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/babar-azam-resigns-as-pakistan-captain-in-all-formats-1408942
Babar stepping down from captaincy is good for him. Having said that, it's kind of hilarious and surprising to see that within an hour of his resignation, PCB appointed new captains for all formats. It's like everything was pre planned and they were ready with everything.

No discussion or pretending to set up a committee whatsoever, just another normal day at PCB's office.

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November 16, 2023, 12:34:17 PM
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I am not sure what good this can do to the Pakistani team. He will be replaced by whom? The most prominent name that I am hearing is that of Shaheen Shah Afridi, but I am quite skeptical about his role as the captain. Even as an opening bowler, there have been numerous occasions when he crumbled under pressure. I would rather go with someone with a bit more maturity, such as Fakhar Zaman or Mohammad Rizwan. At least I would prefer a batsman rather than one of the bowlers. Shaheen Shah needs more time to learn maturity.

It was all because of his father in law (Shahid Afridi) efforts. Shaheen was Pakistan main bowler in this world cup and he along with Haris was a total disaster.
PCB also appointed new Chief Selector i.e Wahab Riaz and Muhammad Hafeez was given the role of Director of Men's cricket team. All coaching staff is replaced or few already resigned. That's why Mikey Arthur was coaching Pakistan team via Zoom session. He knew that he can be sacked on any fine morning.

Babar stepping down from captaincy is good for him. Having said that, it's kind of hilarious and surprising to see that within an hour of his resignation, PCB appointed new captains for all formats. It's like everything was pre planned and they were ready with everything.

No discussion or pretending to set up a committee whatsoever, just another normal day at PCB's office.

He probably was given option that you step down yourself or we remove you from captaincy. Everything was already planned.

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I am not sure what good this can do to the Pakistani team. He will be replaced by whom? The most prominent name that I am hearing is that of Shaheen Shah Afridi, but I am quite skeptical about his role as the captain. Even as an opening bowler, there have been numerous occasions when he crumbled under pressure. I would rather go with someone with a bit more maturity, such as Fakhar Zaman or Mohammad Rizwan. At least I would prefer a batsman rather than one of the bowlers. Shaheen Shah needs more time to learn maturity.

It was all because of his father in law (Shahid Afridi) efforts. Shaheen was Pakistan main bowler in this world cup and he along with Haris was a total disaster.
PCB also appointed new Chief Selector i.e Wahab Riaz and Muhammad Hafeez was given the role of Director of Men's cricket team. All coaching staff is replaced or few already resigned. That's why Mikey Arthur was coaching Pakistan team via Zoom session. He knew that he can be sacked on any fine morning.

Babar stepping down from captaincy is good for him. Having said that, it's kind of hilarious and surprising to see that within an hour of his resignation, PCB appointed new captains for all formats. It's like everything was pre planned and they were ready with everything.

No discussion or pretending to set up a committee whatsoever, just another normal day at PCB's office.

He probably was given option that you step down yourself or we remove you from captaincy. Everything was already planned.
Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last. 

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

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November 17, 2023, 01:07:22 PM
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Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last. 

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

They can't get both roles - in administration and as a player. Either they need to reject the position that is offered to them by the PCB, or they need to pull out of the PSL. I believe the latter option maybe more attractive for them. Anyway they are nearing the end of their playing career and there is no point in sacrificing a good administration role for a minor playing role. PCB is undergoing a state of flux, and the same can be said about the national team as well. Given this, I am not sure whether they will be ready for the 2024 T20I World Cup.

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Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last. 

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains  we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

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Oh well, it's not like he's the first captain to resign without any drama and considering how PCB works, he won't be the last.  

Wahab Riaz and Hafeez getting a big role in PCB looks strange to me. Last year these guys were playing PSL and guess one of em already had his name drafted for the next season, i could be wrong but it's a hilarious situation if they feature in the PSL.

Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains  we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.
Well, they had to choose someone. It's not like there are tons of leadership options in the setup.

Shadab looks like a leader, at least in T-20 cricket but in Pakistan you need a big daddy to back you up and Shaheen falls in that category. The test side looks depressing to me and i only follow them for some lols and momentary brilliance from individuals. The latter part "Wahab Riaz" is hilarious and shocking for everyone but depressing for Pakistan cricket.

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Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains  we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

In case of Shaheen Shah Afridi, at least he will be a part of the playing XI for sure. So there is nothing wrong in giving in a chance at the top post. At least we can be sure that he will not end up like Temba Bavuma of South Africa (who will not be even in the playing XI if he is not the captain). And now coming to Wahab Riaz, what is the issue if he gets a good role in administration? Younger people also deserves a chance, right? The old school guys have failed PCB so far. So there is nothing wrong in giving a few chances to people like Wahab IMO.

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Replacing Babar was not an issue but replacing him with players that are not performing or not even part of squad is a concern. Normally with new captains  we have hopes but not with Shaheen and Shan.

Wahab Riaz is currently the care taker minister of sports in province Punjab and along that he is given the role of Chief selector of Pakistan cricket team. He will also play in Peshawar Zalmi under captaincy of Babar Azam. Normally such posts are given to some experienced plays or those who have some administrative experience but Wahab Riaz is too young for this role. Don't know what links Wahab Riaz has in Pakistan to get such key posts without having a good cricket career.

In case of Shaheen Shah Afridi, at least he will be a part of the playing XI for sure. So there is nothing wrong in giving in a chance at the top post. At least we can be sure that he will not end up like Temba Bavuma of South Africa (who will not be even in the playing XI if he is not the captain). And now coming to Wahab Riaz, what is the issue if he gets a good role in administration? Younger people also deserves a chance, right? The old school guys have failed PCB so far. So there is nothing wrong in giving a few chances to people like Wahab IMO.

@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.
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@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.

Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

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@Sithara007 changes were supposed to come after their poor performance in the World Cup and I’m not surprised they have decided to make drastic changes because it’s a step in the right direction. Furthermore I totally agree with your point because the old timers have failed constantly and maybe this is a risky decision but it’s high time they took decisions like these to improve their overall performances.
Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?
Pakistan having the best individuals in history and present as well, but sadly their biggest issue is leadership Imran Khan was best as leader even with many problems and controversies after him, we have few good but things never been positive due to poor management and lack of leadership in PCB which is mostly run by peoples those are not involved in game and mostly having posts on personal likes and political bases.

Now, they are organizing PSL and few domestic events as well, but they are never able to produce good natural leaders which are problem they need to work on grass-root if they want to have better results Babar Azam's case is also political rather than any other thing Shaheen Afridi is having good back of few peoples which are politically strong specially his father-in-law

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Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?

A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.
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Virat Kohli's performance in the tournament has redefined the essence of a cricketing champion. With an extraordinary 765 runs in a single World Cup, he is a son of outstanding brilliance, symbolizing unparalleled skill, consistency, and a relentless pursuit of excellence. Beyond the runs, Kohli's mastery, unwavering determination, and commitment on the field distinguish him as a true protagonist of cricket.

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A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all. If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.

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November 23, 2023, 09:46:23 AM
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A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.
Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all. If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.
Shadab Khan and Mohammad Nawaz were big failures for the Pakistan in this world cup with currently they have no quality spinner which can bring some positive changes even they have few legendary spinners in near past Saqlain Mushtaq, Mushtaq Ahmad and Saeed Ajmal which can do good things but no one want to hire them for having good spinners which is terrible their domestic set up is also now in mess-up due to many changes and many good players are migrating from here to different countries for the better future.

India having impressive strategy which is now giving them many quality pace bowlers and spinners were never been problem but here things never been positive for the game just poor strategy and lack of leadership having many problems and future is also looking not good in all formats if they are not going to have positive changes.

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November 23, 2023, 07:23:20 PM
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Changes are welcome, but they should not destabilize the team too much. They still have some of the best players in the world, such as Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan, Fakhar Zaman, Shaheen Afridi and Haris Rauf. The problem IMO is that they don't always play as a team. They need to devise a way to convert individual performances to team victories. And something that I have always complained about - the absence of a quality spinner. I don't know why it is so hard for the PCB to find a quality spinner. Are there no good spinners in Pakistani domestic cricket?
A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.
Every time when we have changes into world our expectations are high and positive but sadly in Pakistan case I am not having anything like this because currently they are mostly bench of just political influence based with media reports are coming most chances in near future we will lose Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan due to political tension which could be worst for the Pakistan cricket team and game of cricket but no one can do anything about this all.

Wahab Riaz is currently playing in PSL with having minister office as well so just because of this we can check how things are going in test team they have mostly players on performance of ODI and T20i leagues which could be brought them more problems for them in Australia and now in few months we are heading for the T20i World Cup as well, but they are having no vision for this but PSL2024 is only which will help these players to increase their performance and quality hopefully all will be good for them in the future.

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November 24, 2023, 04:26:42 AM
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Recently there is a rumor that BCCI has banned Bangladesh players from IPL after Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Many content creators are claiming that BCCI has taken this decision to pit Bangladesh against India in the World Cup final. If Bangladeshi players are banned from IPL for supporting then Australia should be banned from IPL instead of banning Bangladesh from IPL because Australia beat India in the final match and Bangladesh only supported Australia. It is normal that every country will have fans of some teams and haters of some teams, if such a ban is imposed on a country because of some haters, how much is it reasonable to have it. For Bangladeshi fans if Bangladeshi players are banned in IPL then BCCI should think about this decision.

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November 24, 2023, 04:51:00 AM
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A new inclusion to the management is always welcome. I think Wahab might do good for Pakistan as chief selector.
Pakistan should understand one thing; ODI cricket is closer to Test cricket than T20 cricket. They have played more T20 in the past few years compared to test or ODIs. Shadab and Nawaz are T20 bowlers. They needed a test bowler in the World Cup squad who had the discipline to bowl at a teasing length. They had only Abrar Ahmed in their squad, who was a specialist spinner, but he was in the travelling reserve.
I think Pakistan should not select an ODI team based on PSL performance. They should give a chance to technically sound players like Abdulla and Saud Shakeel.

Shadab and Nawaz didn't contributed much with the ball during the recently concluded ODI World Cup of 2023. What Pakistan need is to identify some of the younger spinners who are performing well in the domestic circuit. They don't need to immediately include them in the national squad, but there should be a medium-term plan by organizing a few A team tours and all.

Agreed! I think Pakistan management is looking for a spin allrounder like Muhammad Hafeez and Shahid Afridi, but so far, they haven't succeeded. And this approach is costing them big time. They need to rethink their approach if they want to compete with the best teams in the World.
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If they target 2-3 players, then I am sure that within the next 12 months they will get at least one quality player who can bowl well against top teams like Australia and England. They have ignored this issue for so long, so they act without any more delay.

I am thinking the same. They have to identify at least 3 spinners and preferably a wrist spinner as well. They should give new players a chance in the test series against SENA to boost their confidence and skills. If they perform against these nations, this will be a big plus for Pakistan.
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