Cricket match prediction discussions

[Sithara007]

The latest news from BCCI is that they will be sending teams for the first time to the Asian Games (to be held in Hangzhou from 23rd September). On two previous occasions (2010 and 2014) the BCCI refused to send teams, since they were against the idea of participation in multi-sport events. As per reports, Shikhar Dhawan is likely to lead the men's team. Sanju Samson fans have started their tirade against Dhawan, claiming that Samson should be leading the team. VVS Laxman is likely to be the coach. There is a BCCI Apex Council Meeting later this week, and the decision will be formalized by then.

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[eaLiTy]

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"Chalta hai" Attitude might be one of the reasons but to me, main reason looks like, these guys just don't respect spectators and the public.

These folks know that there is more than enough demand and even if they treat their audience like shit, they will still come in masses.

It is not about respecting the spectators, like Sithara007 mentioned the backend money they receive is mandatory in every sector. I am aware of these practices because there was a time i met with KCA authorities when matches were conducting in Kerala on behalf of my relative as he was a contractor and they demand things and all they look forward is the backend money and the commission, the same situation in any government contracts as well.

[Sithara007]

It is not about respecting the spectators, like Sithara007 mentioned the backend money they receive is mandatory in every sector. I am aware of these practices because there was a time i met with KCA authorities when matches were conducting in Kerala on behalf of my relative as he was a contractor and they demand things and all they look forward is the backend money and the commission, the same situation in any government contracts as well.

Without commissions and bribes you can't get any contracts in India. And that is one of the reasons for the poor quality of infrastructure within the stadiums. Contractors maybe capable of constructing high quality facilities. But after kickbacks, there is not enough money left to make a profit. So obviously cost-cutting measures will be implemented and it will impact the quality. India is a country where corruption is prevalent in all the spheres and it has become normalized. People have learnt to live with corruption.

In terms of overall volumes, the largest amount of bribes are pocketed by those in administration (IAS/IPS), followed by the politicians. In India, a large part of the IAS/IPS comes from Bihar. The very purpose of getting in to the administration is to start earning hundreds of millions of INR in bribes. Sports bodies are not as corrupt as some of the other domains. But then we have people like Rupa Gurunath and Sharad Pawar in various state associations.

[tusandii]

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

@tusandii I don’t expect any major changes unless people stop going to stadium’s but the irony is that no one will stop because of their love for this sport and hence neither of the parties need to reinvest further for developing these stadiums. Furthermore to bring changes voice needs to raised on social media, someone influential needs to make big statements on this and only then will the general public wake-up and demand better treatment for themselves.

How can someone who likes and loves their pride team not go to the stadium to watch the match taking place.
Maybe there are some people who also watch from home by watching live broadcasts but when they have time they will immediately flock to the stadium.

No one is not tempted by investing in a sports industry because it can generate a lot of money, moreover investing in a stadium will attract more and more rich people.
You can understand how the sports industry is currently developing and every match is never empty of spectators.
There's nothing better than coming straight to the stadium to support a proud team.

[noormcs5]

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup 

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

[Sithara007]

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup 

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

From what I have learnt from other posters, these are the issues:

1. Food is overpriced and of low quality
2. Security arrangements are not up to the mark
3. Inadequate facilities for parking
4. Crowd management almost inexistent
5. Lack of hygiene and poor maintenance of washrooms
6. Items like wallet and car keys not allowed inside the stadiums
7. Lack of drinking water
8. Need to wait up to 2 hours in the queue to get entry to the stadiums

[UmerIdrees]

From what I have learnt from other posters, these are the issues:

1. Food is overpriced and of low quality
2. Security arrangements are not up to the mark
3. Inadequate facilities for parking
4. Crowd management almost inexistent
5. Lack of hygiene and poor maintenance of washrooms
6. Items like wallet and car keys not allowed inside the stadiums
7. Lack of drinking water
8. Need to wait up to 2 hours in the queue to get entry to the stadiums

Well, don't you think that these issues are common for most of the stadiums in India, Pakistan, Srilanka and Bangladesh. Asian countries have more or less the same issues and I would not call it something too big a concern. We are used to such conditions.
In Pakistan, we have the same issue as people standing outside the stadiums, we have to park our cars about 4 to 5 KM away from the stadium and then there are shuttle vans that take us to the stadium.
Food provided inside the stadiums is always expensive as no one is allowed to bring eatable from outside. Most of these things are done for security purposes because it is difficult to manage an Asian / Sub-continent crowd as compared to the English / Australian crowd.

One thing which surprises me is that you can't take your wallet or car keys with you in the stadium. If so where do they place thier keys in case they come on car to watch the match  

[wiss19]

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Even many things are possible which can increase facilities and awareness about many things but here the biggest problem is set up which is completely under control of politicians which are never been happy to give good things to common peoples even now we are on good change but still we have too many issues which are also needs overhaul changes which are just possible if we all understand and start campaign for this but here nothing happening anything like this as in above post someone mentions the biggest problem is nepotism and political influence which is killing the beauty and bringing the peoples those not deserve for these spots.

Sports is the biggest industry in world and India also can take good benefit but for this we need central control and many good changes which bring professionalism and authority of the organization to sit and talk about better changes, but it's not happening in near future even we can go like USA or Australia even like China which are dominating countries in sports and taking good benefit of this all with private cooperation.

[Haunebu]

Stuart Broad has seriously lost his marbles. He keeps reiterating the fact that what Carey did goes against the spirit of cricket when he himself didn't walk off after edging a delivery several years ago.

Also, who can forget his captain's crazy antics during the last ODI World Cup final? England needs to get their act together in the upcoming matches.

[tusandii]

Yeah, stadiums are built by State Governments but at the same time, every year all the funding of State Boards comes from BCCI, not State Government.

Overall i am not arguing about who maintains the stadium or built it/ownership for that matter, my whole point is every state board gets more than enough money but still spectator experience is not good due to their ignorance.

It is possible that the state government and also the BCCI have made an agreement by doing distribution because in every game there must be a profit from ticket sales or sponsors.
But sharing the deal can also make the stadium better because when there are improvements or upgrades it can be supported by both parties which is more feasible in terms of costs.

It also seems that it doesn't really affect the audience because everyone who comes there can watch the team they like compete for victory.

Well, are we talking about the stadiums in India for the upcoming world cup 

What is wrong with those stadiums as we already witness the 2 months long IPL in the same stadiums and everything looks good on the TV screen? Is there any problem related to the conditions and facilities provided in those cricket venues?

There's nothing wrong with that stadium.
I'm just aligning the previous feedback about the management and also the full thing about the stadium.
In India, cricket is one of the superior sports and many Indians are very enthusiastic about cricket farming there.
When talking about the facilities and also the eligibility of the Indian Stadium, it has a capacity for a large enough audience and all the facilities are quite perfect so there are not the slightest problems there.

[Sithara007]

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One thing which surprises me is that you can't take your wallet or car keys with you in the stadium. If so where do they place thier keys in case they come on car to watch the match  

There are cloakrooms near the entrance where you need to deposit all the items that are not permitted inside (obviously the service is not free). My biggest issue is with the washrooms and toilets. Despite paying huge amounts for purchasing the ticket, even those who hold passes to the high-end areas of the stands have to deal with toilets that are not well maintained. And in case you are in for an ODI match, which lasts for 7-8 hours, it is impossible to not to use the toilet. I have heard many horror stories, and in the worst cases toilets were not fit for usage by humans.

[Litzki1990]

Tamim Iqbal's retirement announcement

There is a rumor that Tamim Iqbal has confirmed to the Bangladeshi media that he will not play ODI cricket again and that the first ODI match against Afghanistan was the last match of his career. This matter is very surprising to me because before the retirement of a player, various news media broadcast news about his retirement, in this case he takes the decision to retire suddenly. It is not yet clear why he suddenly took such a decision. He was injured for a long time and lastly he won the series against Ireland so why Tamim Iqbal took such a decision before finishing the series against Afghanistan. Several action-oriented news media and journalists in Bangladesh have confirmed this fact of Tamim.

[onecall123]

Tamim Iqbal's retirement announcement

There is a rumor that Tamim Iqbal has confirmed to the Bangladeshi media that he will not play ODI cricket again and that the first ODI match against Afghanistan was the last match of his career. This matter is very surprising to me because before the retirement of a player, various news media broadcast news about his retirement, in this case he takes the decision to retire suddenly. It is not yet clear why he suddenly took such a decision. He was injured for a long time and lastly he won the series against Ireland so why Tamim Iqbal took such a decision before finishing the series against Afghanistan. Several action-oriented news media and journalists in Bangladesh have confirmed this fact of Tamim.

Tamim Iqbal is regarded was the best opener in the history of Bangladesh cricket. but, timely great decision from International Cricket? There's a lot of controversy, and I prefer don't like go details. However, it is undeniable that Tamim Iqbal is expected to play a crucial role for Bangladesh in both the Asia Cup and the World Cup. Due to lack of connectivity and healthy atmosphere between Captain Tamim Iqbal and head coach Hathurusingha may lead this decision. Lot of rumors are circulating about their relationship, which turn out unhealthy. Such an unhealthy situation may have influenced the decision-making process regarding Tamim's future. Tamim has chosen to retire with dignity and respect. Furthermore, if he believes that he has nothing more to offer to the team, then he certainly has the right to make this decision.

[Litzki1990]

Tamim Iqbal's retirement announcement

There is a rumor that Tamim Iqbal has confirmed to the Bangladeshi media that he will not play ODI cricket again and that the first ODI match against Afghanistan was the last match of his career. This matter is very surprising to me because before the retirement of a player, various news media broadcast news about his retirement, in this case he takes the decision to retire suddenly. It is not yet clear why he suddenly took such a decision. He was injured for a long time and lastly he won the series against Ireland so why Tamim Iqbal took such a decision before finishing the series against Afghanistan. Several action-oriented news media and journalists in Bangladesh have confirmed this fact of Tamim.

Tamim Iqbal is regarded was the best opener in the history of Bangladesh cricket. but, timely great decision from International Cricket? There's a lot of controversy, and I prefer don't like go details. However, it is undeniable that Tamim Iqbal is expected to play a crucial role for Bangladesh in both the Asia Cup and the World Cup. Due to lack of connectivity and healthy atmosphere between Captain Tamim Iqbal and head coach Hathurusingha may lead this decision. Lot of rumors are circulating about their relationship, which turn out unhealthy. Such an unhealthy situation may have influenced the decision-making process regarding Tamim's future. Tamim has chosen to retire with dignity and respect. Furthermore, if he believes that he has nothing more to offer to the team, then he certainly has the right to make this decision.

Tamim Iqbal has suddenly decided to retire without playing the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup tournaments due to such problems with Hathurusingha. Tamim Iqbal should not have taken such a decision in anger at this moment. He could have been patient and ended the series against Afghanistan for the time being, but he took the decision after the first match. As you said Tamim Iqbal is the best opener of Bangladesh and so far Tamim Iqbal has the highest number of centuries for Bangladesh. The announcement of his retirement at this moment is undoubtedly a matter of great sadness for crores of Bangladeshi fans. His decision may have bad effect for Bangladesh in Asia Cup and World Cup.

[Marvell1]

Tamim Iqbal's retirement announcement

There is a rumor that Tamim Iqbal has confirmed to the Bangladeshi media that he will not play ODI cricket again and that the first ODI match against Afghanistan was the last match of his career. This matter is very surprising to me because before the retirement of a player, various news media broadcast news about his retirement, in this case he takes the decision to retire suddenly. It is not yet clear why he suddenly took such a decision. He was injured for a long time and lastly he won the series against Ireland so why Tamim Iqbal took such a decision before finishing the series against Afghanistan. Several action-oriented news media and journalists in Bangladesh have confirmed this fact of Tamim.

Tamim Iqbal is regarded was the best opener in the history of Bangladesh cricket. but, timely great decision from International Cricket? There's a lot of controversy, and I prefer don't like go details. However, it is undeniable that Tamim Iqbal is expected to play a crucial role for Bangladesh in both the Asia Cup and the World Cup. Due to lack of connectivity and healthy atmosphere between Captain Tamim Iqbal and head coach Hathurusingha may lead this decision. Lot of rumors are circulating about their relationship, which turn out unhealthy. Such an unhealthy situation may have influenced the decision-making process regarding Tamim's future. Tamim has chosen to retire with dignity and respect. Furthermore, if he believes that he has nothing more to offer to the team, then he certainly has the right to make this decision.

I don’t understand what is the problem with the Bangladesh senior players and the Bangladesh cricket board. I am pretty sure that this is the reason why Tamim Iqbal decided to retire. There is no reason for him to retire just three months before the World Cup. And I don’t understand if the players do have an unhealthy relationship with the players, why don’t the cricket board let the coach go and bring some other coach?

This situation has been going on for so long and it still is not fixed. I obviously respect the decision of Tamim Iqbal. But I certainly did want to see him play in the World Cup. He has given the Bangladesh national team a lot. I know that I have said I wanted to see him in the World Cup. But overall I think this was the right decision to make because if he did not perform well in the World Cup there would have been a lot of shit talking about him.

[Sithara007]

After the exceptional performance by Scotland and Netherlands during the ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier, will the ICC consider full membership to these two teams? They certainly performed better than Ireland and gave the other full members (Zimbabwe, West Indies and Scotland) a run for their money. And the sad thing about Scotland is that despite performing so well, no matches against full members are scheduled until 2027 (when the next qualifier tournament will take place). It's a cruel world, especially for associate nations in cricket.

[Marvell1]

After the exceptional performance by Scotland and Netherlands during the ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier, will the ICC consider full membership to these two teams? They certainly performed better than Ireland and gave the other full members (Zimbabwe, West Indies and Scotland) a run for their money. And the sad thing about Scotland is that despite performing so well, no matches against full members are scheduled until 2027 (when the next qualifier tournament will take place). It's a cruel world, especially for associate nations in cricket.

First of all, I think at least 20 teams should have full membership of the ACC in total. And in every World Cup, these 20 teams should be able to compete without having to play any kind of qualifier. Then I think we can call it an actual World Cup. I know this will be a little tricky to do in the ODI World Cup. But this can easily be done in the T-20 World Cup for sure. And that's why I said that the ICC should concentrate on the T-20 format a lot more than they are doing right now. They associate nations really sure to be taken seriously by the ACC at this point.

[Sithara007]

First of all, I think at least 20 teams should have full membership of the ACC in total. And in every World Cup, these 20 teams should be able to compete without having to play any kind of qualifier. Then I think we can call it an actual World Cup. I know this will be a little tricky to do in the ODI World Cup. But this can easily be done in the T-20 World Cup for sure. And that's why I said that the ICC should concentrate on the T-20 format a lot more than they are doing right now. They associate nations really sure to be taken seriously by the ACC at this point.

IMO, there should not be two tiers - full membership and associate membership. All the ICC members should have the status of full member. Funding should be done on the basis of performance. If Scotland and Netherlands are performing better than West Indies and Ireland, then the former should get more funds when compared to the latter. There is no excuse in granting $16 million per year to the WICB, when they are consistently losing matches against associate nations. Merit should be taken in to account.

[tusandii]

After the exceptional performance by Scotland and Netherlands during the ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifier, will the ICC consider full membership to these two teams? They certainly performed better than Ireland and gave the other full members (Zimbabwe, West Indies and Scotland) a run for their money. And the sad thing about Scotland is that despite performing so well, no matches against full members are scheduled until 2027 (when the next qualifier tournament will take place). It's a cruel world, especially for associate nations in cricket.

Yes it's true in the ICC Cricket World Cup qualifiers Scotland and Netherlands played very well even they played better than some other teams.
Scotland may be underdeveloped so they are not given a match schedule against other full members but if Scotland can keep up the good work they can prove that the Scotland cricket team deserves to compete with full members.
If you say it's cruel, it's not about cruelty for a country that is associated with cricket, but that's actually what is happening.

[GigaBit]

Tamim Iqbal's retirement announcement

There is a rumor that Tamim Iqbal has confirmed to the Bangladeshi media that he will not play ODI cricket again and that the first ODI match against Afghanistan was the last match of his career. This matter is very surprising to me because before the retirement of a player, various news media broadcast news about his retirement, in this case he takes the decision to retire suddenly. It is not yet clear why he suddenly took such a decision. He was injured for a long time and lastly he won the series against Ireland so why Tamim Iqbal took such a decision before finishing the series against Afghanistan. Several action-oriented news media and journalists in Bangladesh have confirmed this fact of Tamim.

Tamim Iqbal is regarded was the best opener in the history of Bangladesh cricket. but, timely great decision from International Cricket? There's a lot of controversy, and I prefer don't like go details. However, it is undeniable that Tamim Iqbal is expected to play a crucial role for Bangladesh in both the Asia Cup and the World Cup. Due to lack of connectivity and healthy atmosphere between Captain Tamim Iqbal and head coach Hathurusingha may lead this decision. Lot of rumors are circulating about their relationship, which turn out unhealthy. Such an unhealthy situation may have influenced the decision-making process regarding Tamim's future. Tamim has chosen to retire with dignity and respect. Furthermore, if he believes that he has nothing more to offer to the team, then he certainly has the right to make this decision.

Tamim Iqbal has suddenly decided to retire without playing the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup tournaments due to such problems with Hathurusingha. Tamim Iqbal should not have taken such a decision in anger at this moment. He could have been patient and ended the series against Afghanistan for the time being, but he took the decision after the first match. As you said Tamim Iqbal is the best opener of Bangladesh and so far Tamim Iqbal has the highest number of centuries for Bangladesh. The announcement of his retirement at this moment is undoubtedly a matter of great sadness for crores of Bangladeshi fans. His decision may have bad effect for Bangladesh in Asia Cup and World Cup.

The retirement of a senior player during a series certainly indicates something wrong. Perhaps Tamim Iqbal is taking such a decision because he is worried with someone else, the cricket world does not expect such an announcement from him during this time. So far i know he is a popular cricketer in Bangladesh team. There is a suspicion among almost everyone that maybe his time with Chandika Hathurusingha is not going well but that is completely unknown to the common people and the cricket world. His sudden retirement decision in the light of the upcoming Asia Cup and World Cup is definitely indicate a bad time for Bangladesh cricket.