Cricket match prediction discussions

[SATWAT]

First match of the England vs West Indies series and I think that England will win this series because their team is better than West Indies.

Interesting balance to the two sides today, with both likely to bowl 20+ overs of spin. If there is some moisture in the pitch early this morning as Hope suggests, it should be an interesting opening phase for Thomas and Joseph against two attacking openers in Jacks and Salt. ( (from cricinfo)

This is an ODI series and in the last ODI World Cup, it has been almost 1 month since it is finished but in this tournament, England was not good and they played very poorly even though they had no chance to qualify for the champions trophy 2025 but they faced very difficulties to qualifying for the Champions trophy 2025 and they made their place in that tournament but West Indies don't qualify in this tournament so how they can play champions trophy.

West Indies had lost their qualification for the 2023 World Cup. To be honest, it was very sad not to see West Indies in the 2023 World Cup. In the 2023 World Cup, it has been determined that only those who will be in the top eight will be able to play in the championship. Since West Indies lost the qualification to play in events like the World Cup, how can they play in the championship?  West Indies will not be able to play the championship. The West Indies team should perform well to qualify for the World Cup. They have a lot of good players in their team if they play with focus in the national team surely we will see West Indies again in the World Cup and in the championship.

After winning the World Cup in 1975 and 1979, the team would be runner-up in 1983 and since then the team has not seen any ODI World Cup champions. They have been on a gradual decline. It is a shameful chapter for them they did not qualify for this year's World Cup. The foundation of their cricket is constantly weakening. They took steps to come out of this stage but no results were found. Despite their recent poor form in cricket, they got a win against England in the 1st match which was really impressive. It is unrealistic to expect such a victory from them. I think they are only fit to play short format of cricket.

In early days there were strong management which was holding this all but as they have some money then internal politics started and most of the countries want their bigger share in team and few salary issues hurt this one of the best team with they never think in long run for their better future which is also the biggest problem for them, and currently they are having worst ever performance with mostly players after having 2 or 3 years in team wants to go into Franchise leagues which are giving them good money.
Even right now situation is more than worst, and we have no positive signs for them, but now they need to work on some domestic structure which can give them better results for the future CPL is already having some oxygen but still this is not enough.

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[Sithara007]

After winning the World Cup in 1975 and 1979, the team would be runner-up in 1983 and since then the team has not seen any ODI World Cup champions. They have been on a gradual decline. It is a shameful chapter for them they did not qualify for this year's World Cup. The foundation of their cricket is constantly weakening. They took steps to come out of this stage but no results were found. Despite their recent poor form in cricket, they got a win against England in the 1st match which was really impressive. It is unrealistic to expect such a victory from them. I think they are only fit to play short format of cricket.

West Indies created this problem for themselves. First of all, they doesn't represent any single nation, but around two dozen different island nations. Given this, there is always issues with team selection, with some of the island nations constantly complaining that their players are being ignored for team selection. Then there is the race issue. Non-black and Non-Christian players have always complained of bias against them, and it is very evident in the mistreatment that has happened in the past with Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Ravindranath Rampaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan.

[Webetcoins]

It was an open book for everyone to read and PCB did right not to cancel their ODI WC. Rambo and everyone knew the realities but as usual, every PCB officials were playing for the gallery because you have to show some resistance in front of a domestic audience.

The truth is if someday PCB decides to boycott any ICC event, I can guarantee you they will go bankrupt.

PCB needs to accept the reality. India contributes to ~80% of the revenue and therefore the ICC needs to make sure that they are not antagonizing the BCCI. As per the new revenue sharing framework, PCB will receive $34.51 million every year from the ICC, and majority of this revenue is sourced from India. Pakistan can become a major revenue generator for the ICC. But they don't want to do that. There are strict government regulations on advertisements and on cable TV. In India they don't have these restrictions, and this is one of the reasons why the revenue from India is much higher when compared to the other sub-continental nations.

I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Now as we are heading for the 2024 they are having elections in February which are also creating problems for the organizing PSL in Pakistan if they are not able to hold this again then surely they can face more problems for them champions trophy as well but in current situation no one can bring anything positive for this country all is down in long run.

[Sithara007]

I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Now as we are heading for the 2024 they are having elections in February which are also creating problems for the organizing PSL in Pakistan if they are not able to hold this again then surely they can face more problems for them champions trophy as well but in current situation no one can bring anything positive for this country all is down in long run.

PSL contributes to a large share of the income for PCB. If they are unable to hold the elections, then it is not going to end well for the board and the players. Also if the opposition wins the election, we can expect further changes in PCB and that will destabilize the domestic cricket further. As of now, I am having little hope of Pakistan hosting the champions trophy in 2025. At the most, they can have a setup similar to what was done for the 2023 edition of Asia Cup. Given the power equilibrium in ICC and ACC, there is very little that PCB can do at this point.

[Westinhome]

After winning the World Cup in 1975 and 1979, the team would be runner-up in 1983 and since then the team has not seen any ODI World Cup champions. They have been on a gradual decline. It is a shameful chapter for them they did not qualify for this year's World Cup. The foundation of their cricket is constantly weakening. They took steps to come out of this stage but no results were found. Despite their recent poor form in cricket, they got a win against England in the 1st match which was really impressive. It is unrealistic to expect such a victory from them. I think they are only fit to play short format of cricket.

After this three World Cup,West Indies never reached the Workd Cup was the saddest part of West Indies cricket.Even they conducted 2007 World Cup,they never reached the final and final was played by Australia and Srilanka.As like West Indies,South Africa had the strongest team and doesn’t have their World Cup luck was still in the controversy.In this 13 World Cup series,team South Africa never reached the finals was the still saddest one.But we all know South Africa was strongest team like England,New Zealand and West Indies.All this three teams reached the finals and two had the trophy once.

[JSRAW]

@Sithara007

Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

[SATWAT]

I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Now as we are heading for the 2024 they are having elections in February which are also creating problems for the organizing PSL in Pakistan if they are not able to hold this again then surely they can face more problems for them champions trophy as well but in current situation no one can bring anything positive for this country all is down in long run.

PSL contributes to a large share of the income for PCB. If they are unable to hold the elections, then it is not going to end well for the board and the players. Also if the opposition wins the election, we can expect further changes in PCB and that will destabilize the domestic cricket further. As of now, I am having little hope of Pakistan hosting the champions trophy in 2025. At the most, they can have a setup similar to what was done for the 2023 edition of Asia Cup. Given the power equilibrium in ICC and ACC, there is very little that PCB can do at this point.

Now one thing is sure India is having strong control in cricket, and now they are using this for ruining them even we have few good things which are going to help them but now most chances they will be not able to host any ICC or ACC relating event in Pakistan for some years because India will never visit and this will create problems for the ICC, and they will surely go with BCCI as they are the biggest generator of the game.
Pakistan is also having internal issues which are not going to settle in next few months and thing will be keep going like this which are surely favorable for the BCCI, so I have personal feeling Champions Trophy could be shifted to the UAE for the better ending of this all instead of going to have hybrid or anything else, but Pakistan will keep fight until last decision.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007

Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

In the end, it will be played in hybrid mode. For tax related complexities, GCC locations such as United Arab Emirates or Oman suits better for the ICC than Sri Lanka. Last time Asia Cup could not be held in GCC because of adverse weather conditions. But in case of Champions Trophy, there should be no such issues. Anyway, security situation in Pakistan is not that good either. So there is a good chance that a few of the full member boards other than the BCCI will be raising objections to the tournament being hosted by Pakistan.

[synchronym]

After winning the World Cup in 1975 and 1979, the team would be runner-up in 1983 and since then the team has not seen any ODI World Cup champions. They have been on a gradual decline. It is a shameful chapter for them they did not qualify for this year's World Cup. The foundation of their cricket is constantly weakening. They took steps to come out of this stage but no results were found. Despite their recent poor form in cricket, they got a win against England in the 1st match which was really impressive. It is unrealistic to expect such a victory from them. I think they are only fit to play short format of cricket.

After this three World Cup,West Indies never reached the Workd Cup was the saddest part of West Indies cricket.Even they conducted 2007 World Cup,they never reached the final and final was played by Australia and Srilanka.As like West Indies,South Africa had the strongest team and doesn’t have their World Cup luck was still in the controversy.In this 13 World Cup series,team South Africa never reached the finals was the still saddest one.But we all know South Africa was strongest team like England,New Zealand and West Indies.All this three teams reached the finals and two had the trophy once.

2023 World Cup South Africa performed brilliantly.  They played very well from the first match to the last match. Really feel very bad for South Africa they never qualified for the finals after performing so well or the South African team never qualified for the championship. By performing so well, the South African team could never become the world champion. To be honest, it is a very painful thing for the South African team. Maybe South Africa can do very well in the championship trophy and win the champions trophy. Let's see how South Africa can fare in the upcoming Champions Trophy.

[SATWAT]

@Sithara007

Zero hope from my side, at best, it would be a hybrid model and India will play its fixture in Dubai or maybe SL. Also, came across some reports that they are demanding compensation from BCCI if they don't visit Pakistan for CT.

You mentioned regulations on advertisements thingy a couple of times, what's that supposed to mean in the context of Pakistan? Not aware much of this topic.

In the end, it will be played in hybrid mode. For tax related complexities, GCC locations such as United Arab Emirates or Oman suits better for the ICC than Sri Lanka. Last time Asia Cup could not be held in GCC because of adverse weather conditions. But in case of Champions Trophy, there should be no such issues. Anyway, security situation in Pakistan is not that good either. So there is a good chance that a few of the full member boards other than the BCCI will be raising objections to the tournament being hosted by Pakistan.

Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

[Sithara007]

Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

A few teams like Australia and England completed their tours without any issue, but still if the BCCI is opposed to it, then the ICC can't stage any of the major tournaments in that country. If India pulls out, then 80% of the revenue is gone for the media rights holders. And if that happens, then all the full member boards will get impacted and not just the PCB. At this point, the best thing that the PCB can do is to try for the hybrid setup (even that is not guaranteed). Getting the funds from ICC is more important when compared to hosting tournaments for the PCB.

[SATWAT]

Here I am not agreed with you about any other member will be having any concern because mostly are touring, and many other things are going normal its just Indian lobby and media which is creating some hype about situation is not good in Pakistan but still I am again going now things are not favorable for Pakistan in ICC so most chances we will have this trophy will be play in different views other than Pakistan but if we have strong government and other things then surely they will try to take some benefit which is also all depend on how ICC will go about this issue.
New Zealand, England and Australia are already completed their tours without any problem and most chances things will be improved, and we will have just BCCI as biggest opposition for this event not held in Pakistan.

A few teams like Australia and England completed their tours without any issue, but still if the BCCI is opposed to it, then the ICC can't stage any of the major tournaments in that country. If India pulls out, then 80% of the revenue is gone for the media rights holders. And if that happens, then all the full member boards will get impacted and not just the PCB. At this point, the best thing that the PCB can do is to try for the hybrid setup (even that is not guaranteed). Getting the funds from ICC is more important when compared to hosting tournaments for the PCB.

As I am already saying about this most chances we will not have this Champions Trophy in Pakistan because Indian authorities will be not happy as they never want to give any financial or other benefit to Pakistan so most chances ICC will change the venue, and we will have this again in the UAE which could be better option for all it's all about personal ego and power nothing else.
I don't want to post few pics here which I take few days back here in my city as few Indian tennis players were here for playing ITF event because this was not good beneficial for the Pakistan to they arrive and enjoy their tour with their families as well, but cricket is surely having completely different things so BCCI and Indian government will never allow this all simply this is all end of this topic.

[Sithara007]

As I am already saying about this most chances we will not have this Champions Trophy in Pakistan because Indian authorities will be not happy as they never want to give any financial or other benefit to Pakistan so most chances ICC will change the venue, and we will have this again in the UAE which could be better option for all it's all about personal ego and power nothing else.

I don't want to post few pics here which I take few days back here in my city as few Indian tennis players were here for playing ITF event because this was not good beneficial for the Pakistan to they arrive and enjoy their tour with their families as well, but cricket is surely having completely different things so BCCI and Indian government will never allow this all simply this is all end of this topic.

It is very simple. If the Champions trophy is held in Pakistan, then the Indian government will not allow the BCCI to travel to that country. In the end, India maybe replaced with the 9th ranked team from 2023 ODI World Cup. But then, the media rights holders won't be happy. They have agreed to the huge media package deal, with the condition that Indian team will be participating in all of these tournaments. So if India is replaced with some other country, then the ICC need to compensate the media rights holders (Disney Star).

[noormcs5]

I completely agree, currently Pakistan is second most populated country in ICC but sadly in last 2 decades they are badly going down in stability and economically which is having many issues for them but no one going to accept ground realities which are bringing more problems for them in last two years we are having too many changes which are bringing more problems so with this all I have no positive signs for them in cricket with mostly other games are also ended.

Today is the biggest match that has taken place in cricket history, these countries match we say that this is not a cricket match it is more than a single cricket match, everyone is excited for this match from cricket, this match is Pakistan vs India, and today is also Pakistan vs India but the teams are under 19, and according to the current situation Pakistan U19 team play very well, Pakistan bowlers do very well bowling in this innings,  India crossed 200 with struggle and I know that Pakistan batting is too good as you seen on yesterday's match against Nepal.

The point is we cannot deny the presence of Pakistan cricket and ICC needs the Pakistan team to remain in such a form to be able to play and lose in big tournaments against India.

[roksana.hee]

The excitement surrounding a Pakistan vs India cricket match is always unmatched, regardless of the age group. It's great to hear that the Pakistan U19 team is performing well, especially with the bowlers showing their skills in this inning. Crossing 259 is indeed a commendable achievement for India, but it seems like Pakistan's batting strength is promising, as demonstrated in the recent match against Nepal.

I was impressed by the batting of Sachin Dhas. He got the runs of 58 from   42 balls with 2 fours, and 3 sixes, and the strike rate is 138.09. Really a big achievement.

On the other hand, it's not a big score for Pakistani Cricket Team U19. If they occur an opening partnership then it will be an easy score for Pakistani U19 Team. Best of luck Pakistani Cricket Team.

[virasog]

The excitement surrounding a Pakistan vs India cricket match is always unmatched, regardless of the age group. It's great to hear that the Pakistan U19 team is performing well, especially with the bowlers showing their skills in this inning. Crossing 259 is indeed a commendable achievement for India, but it seems like Pakistan's batting strength is promising, as demonstrated in the recent match against Nepal.

I was impressed by the batting of Sachin Dhas. He got the runs of 58 from   42 balls with 2 fours, and 3 sixes, and the strike rate is 138.09. Really a big achievement.

On the other hand, it's not a big score for Pakistani Cricket Team U19. If they occur an opening partnership then it will be an easy score for Pakistani U19 Team. Best of luck Pakistani Cricket Team.

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

[JSRAW]

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It is very simple. If the Champions trophy is held in Pakistan, then the Indian government will not allow the BCCI to travel to that country. In the end, India maybe replaced with the 9th ranked team from 2023 ODI World Cup. But then, the media rights holders won't be happy. They have agreed to the huge media package deal, with the condition that Indian team will be participating in all of these tournaments. So if India is replaced with some other country, then the ICC need to compensate the media rights holders (Disney Star).

Just for fun, once I want ICC or PCB to get overconfident or daring and go without BCCI in any ICC event barring WTC as it won't have a big impact.

If a tournament does well in terms of numbers without India then it'll be a big win for everyone and it'll humble BCCI to not pull out this sort of card ever. At the same time if the opposite happens then well we know the script, don't we?

[roksana.hee]

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

I much appreciate you as a strong team is India U19 but on the other hand, you already watched the performance of Azan's 105 runs from 130 balls, also watch the performance of Saad's 68 runs from 51 balls, and the most attacking batsman 63 runs from 88 balls. Best wishes for Pakistani Cricket U19. Congratulations on your combined performance.

[lixer]

Just for fun, once I want ICC or PCB to get overconfident or daring and go without BCCI in any ICC event barring WTC as it won't have a big impact.

If a tournament does well in terms of numbers without India then it'll be a big win for everyone and it'll humble BCCI to not pull out this sort of card ever. At the same time if the opposite happens then well we know the script, don't we?

It is time for ending this debate and it is possible just if they have balls and go ahead without India in any ICC event because if they want to end these issues its good time for having changes like these just leave this all and go ahead if they succeeded then surely Indian authorities will think about their stance about Pakistan and if we have failure for the ICC then surely they have to accept this reality and it is also going to end for Pakistan in ICC and ACC events for long time.

But, currently in ICC no one going to dare this because we all know how things are going and how they are managing so right now for some time this all is going as we have right now with Pakistan is not going to host and ICC is not going to interfere in this all and due to huge finances shareholder India will take his advantages like they are doing.

[dezoel]

The first innings is finished, and in the next innings we see Pakistani batsmen taking on Indian bowlers, Pakistani bowlers did good bowling so Pakistani batsmen should impressed with their bowling attack and should play like that if Pakistan wins this match so we should take their name that these all players who possible this victory.

Indian bowling attack is also very strong, and they also had very good spinners and pacers like Raj Limbani and Arshin Kulkarni, they both took three wickets against Afghanistan, which was the first match of this U19 Asia Cup, and not only them but others are equally played like them.

This was a good battle at the top of group with after winning toss Pakistan chose to field and their bowlers done good job which help their team for having comfortable win in this match now after winning both their matches they are at the top and having their next game against Afghanistan which won their game against Nepal and now having 2 points after two rounds currently situation is straight, but we can have changes as well because next match is Pakistan vs Afghanistan and India vs Nepal, so India will be comfortably in last four and Pakistan have to beat Afghanistan which could be interesting match.

In today game, we have good batting from Azan which able to reach his century and stay until end of the game with good support from Shahzaib and captain Saad both complete their fifties in this game.