Cricket match prediction discussions

[GigaBit]

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

Ramiz Raja has always been a controversial figure. He always speaks aggressively. The way he refers to India is not appropriate at all. India lost that semi-final match but Pakistan could not win the final either. I think there are some people who act like fools even though they are highly educated and one of them is Ramiz Raja. He should refrain from speaking offensively to other. His ill-mannered depriving him of the respect he deserves.

[SATWAT]

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.

I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.

Bhai G, while they are giving statements like these you just imagine they are not having match they are coming out of cinema after having bhujpuri film because they are living like this environment.

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.

I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.

I don't understand why people forget their decency and grace when they get some position ,Ramiz Raja is loosing alot of respect which he had when he was a commentator. These direct disgraceful attacks aren't good for cricketing relationships and you goodwill.

[Cryptock]

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

Ramiz Raja has always been a controversial figure. He always speaks aggressively. The way he refers to India is not appropriate at all. India lost that semi-final match but Pakistan could not win the final either. I think there are some people who act like fools even though they are highly educated and one of them is Ramiz Raja. He should refrain from speaking offensively to other. His ill-mannered depriving him of the respect he deserves.

Whatsoever - but the Pakistani team became a better team during his tenure.
The cricket board chairperson has always been a controversial figure - no problem about it. But Ramiz Raja has been the best at least better than Najam Shetti

[BobK71]

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.

Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

Ramiz Raja has always been a controversial figure. He always speaks aggressively. The way he refers to India is not appropriate at all. India lost that semi-final match but Pakistan could not win the final either. I think there are some people who act like fools even though they are highly educated and one of them is Ramiz Raja. He should refrain from speaking offensively to other. His ill-mannered depriving him of the respect he deserves.

Whatsoever - but the Pakistani team became a better team during his tenure.
The cricket board chairperson has always been a controversial figure - no problem about it. But Ramiz Raja has been the best at least better than Najam Shetti

It remains to be seen how Pakistan cricket has improved during his tenure. Whatever the cricket board chairman says irrelevantly. But it is true that even though Pakistan cricket has improved, Ramij Raja is viewed negatively by many in the cricketing world. Because there is some differences in his speech. After all we want every country's cricket to thrive and conduct cricket with honesty and integrity. As a result at least cricket will improve.

[Sithara007]

Whatsoever - but the Pakistani team became a better team during his tenure.
The cricket board chairperson has always been a controversial figure - no problem about it. But Ramiz Raja has been the best at least better than Najam Shetti

Completely agreed with this. Many would be unaware of this, but Rameez was the one who rescued PSL from being defunct. Two years ago, the PSL franchise owners threatened to pull out, since they were unhappy with the revenue distribution model. Rameez sat down with them, and listened to their concerns. When the owners started making unfair demands, Rameez told them to either accept the conditions or out their franchises back into auction. He was also behind the new media rights deal, which is worth $24 million for PSL.

[JSRAW]

Whatsoever - but the Pakistani team became a better team during his tenure.
The cricket board chairperson has always been a controversial figure - no problem about it. But Ramiz Raja has been the best at least better than Najam Shetti

Completely agreed with this. Many would be unaware of this, but Rameez was the one who rescued PSL from being defunct. Two years ago, the PSL franchise owners threatened to pull out, since they were unhappy with the revenue distribution model. Rameez sat down with them, and listened to their concerns. When the owners started making unfair demands, Rameez told them to either accept the conditions or out their franchises back into auction. He was also behind the new media rights deal, which is worth $24 million for PSL.

This doesn't give him any right to talk rubbish all the time, he's not the president of some local club but representing a major country in the cricketing world.

Likes of Lalit Modi, Srinivanas minted a shitload amount of money for BCCI. Do we neglect their wrongdoings? No and rightly so.

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Whatsoever - but the Pakistani team became a better team during his tenure.
The cricket board chairperson has always been a controversial figure - no problem about it. But Ramiz Raja has been the best at least better than Najam Shetti

Completely agreed with this. Many would be unaware of this, but Rameez was the one who rescued PSL from being defunct. Two years ago, the PSL franchise owners threatened to pull out, since they were unhappy with the revenue distribution model. Rameez sat down with them, and listened to their concerns. When the owners started making unfair demands, Rameez told them to either accept the conditions or out their franchises back into auction. He was also behind the new media rights deal, which is worth $24 million for PSL.

Yes it's true that after came of Rameez Raja Pakistan is constantly recovering their position. However, to make the team completely successful, many behaviors must be changed.  In particular, he should now plan on team management, otherwise Pakistan's batting side will start to disappear again if this continues as Pakistan's batting side has started to weaken.

[Sithara007]

Yes it's true that after came of Rameez Raja Pakistan is constantly recovering their position. However, to make the team completely successful, many behaviors must be changed.  In particular, he should now plan on team management, otherwise Pakistan's batting side will start to disappear again if this continues as Pakistan's batting side has started to weaken.

Rameez's duty is to take care of the administration and the finances. If the batsmen fail to score runs, I don't know what he can do about it. Maybe he can suggest a few changes in the batting order, and that is it. Still I am against a large scale reorganization, because the batsmen showed a lot of promise in Australia. There were indications that they are no longer heavily dependent on Babar Azam. And also, youngsters such as Mohammad Haris were scoring crucial runs.

This doesn't give him any right to talk rubbish all the time, he's not the president of some local club but representing a major country in the cricketing world.

Likes of Lalit Modi, Srinivanas minted a shitload amount of money for BCCI. Do we neglect their wrongdoings? No and rightly so.

Lalit and Srinivasan made money from an already established market. Rameez's job was more difficult. And Lalit and Srinivasan are hated by the fans because of their nepotism, bias and corrupt practices. None of this is true for Rameez.

[JSRAW]

This doesn't give him any right to talk rubbish all the time, he's not the president of some local club but representing a major country in the cricketing world.

Likes of Lalit Modi, Srinivanas minted a shitload amount of money for BCCI. Do we neglect their wrongdoings? No and rightly so.

Lalit and Srinivasan made money from an already established market. Rameez's job was more difficult. And Lalit and Srinivasan are hated by the fans because of their nepotism, bias and corrupt practices. None of this is true for Rameez.

He's also a product of nepotism and was born with a silver spoon. Got a preference from start be it school, college, club and domestic cricket due to his father and brother's connection. He himself mentioned this many times on the record, proudly.

Rameez's duty is to take care of the administration and the finances. If the batsmen fail to score runs, I don't know what he can do about it. Maybe he can suggest a few changes in the batting order, and that is it. Still I am against a large scale reorganization, because the batsmen showed a lot of promise in Australia. There were indications that they are no longer heavily dependent on Babar Azam. And also, youngsters such as Mohammad Haris were scoring crucial runs.

That's the main point. He's the administrator so he should act responsibly and not indulge in a street fight by sending a legal notice to former cricketers or experts. 

[Sithara007]

^^^ There are no saints here. Rameez has done wonders for the PCB, and let's focus on that rather than the verbal duels. But I agree that he should not react to the provocations and need to act in a calm manner. It is not going to be beneficial for anyone, if the PCB officials and the ex-players wash their dirty laundry out in the open. I don't know whether it was right for him to send the legal notices to his critics. And it maybe a good idea to withdraw them and sort out the issues in private, rather than publicizing this issue anymore.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

^^^ There are no saints here. Rameez has done wonders for the PCB, and let's focus on that rather than the verbal duels. But I agree that he should not react to the provocations and need to act in a calm manner. It is not going to be beneficial for anyone, if the PCB officials and the ex-players wash their dirty laundry out in the open. I don't know whether it was right for him to send the legal notices to his critics. And it maybe a good idea to withdraw them and sort out the issues in private, rather than publicizing this issue anymore.

Rameez Raja has been a cricket figure since forever first he was playing than commentary and now leading PCB so he knows things that can effect reputations of cricket boards.  First of all everyone who's there to discuss cricket should just stick to cricket instead of personal attacks . And the one who's leading our cricket board should stay with calm nerves to tackle things like this .

[JSRAW]

^^^ There are no saints here. Rameez has done wonders for the PCB, and let's focus on that rather than the verbal duels. But I agree that he should not react to the provocations and need to act in a calm manner. It is not going to be beneficial for anyone, if the PCB officials and the ex-players wash their dirty laundry out in the open. I don't know whether it was right for him to send the legal notices to his critics. And it maybe a good idea to withdraw them and sort out the issues in private, rather than publicizing this issue anymore.

No one denying his recent contribution to PCB but it's also true that at the same time, under his watch shit talking went to another level.

Even PCB's official twitter account acts like it's handled by some teenager (trolling teams on getting knocked out from WC).

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Ha! 6 teams, well let's see.  

[kro55]

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This is nothing new for Pakistan they are in last four or last two with their any kind of performance in most events, and they are not luckiest for the first time they have many lucky days in their past as well but still here we have problem with the Pakistan sports and all cricketing system which is never been in good shape specially now as we have too many ways to give our opinion still positive things not happening most of the former players are uneducated, and they have not good skills and techniques which help new generation players.

So, the best thing is just coming on any news channel which is currently very cheap way and talk about all shit even many players which capable of having good mindset and can bring good changes are not interested to help just talk and having good views on YouTube channel and trying to influence some political person for having good job this is current culture which is not going to change in next few years as they are not stable in finances and as well in political base.

I have seen a lot of people, and also a lot of YouTube channels saying anything just to get views, even though a lot of times it does not make sense. Why would you cuss your own country’s team even when they are reaching the finals?

People have to realize that cussing them is not going to make them play better. If they really want some upgrades, they can always go to the coaches and say what they are doing wrong. I think people are always doing something which is not helpful, trying to practice their freedom of speech.

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My question is what Rameez had to do with the poor performance during the initial two matches? When the Pakistani team performed well during the New Zealand tri-series, the credit went to the players and not to the management. When that is the case, the poor performance during the initial stages of the world cup should also be attributed to the players. Managing the PCB is not an easy task, but Rameez has done a wonderful job so far. So I am in favor of letting him continue with the job, without much harassment.

Like i mentioned above, whenever Pakistan are performing poorly they would attack the coaches and the management. There was a time when Waqar Younis was their coach and when they fail terribly everyone would attack him including Ramiz Raja as part of the commentary team. There are some crazy things said by Ramiz Raja as well in the past and now he is under attack because he is the PCB chairman and he is still making statements in Twitter.
Teams with billion dollar leagues are falling behind us this is the statement by Ramiz Raja when India lost to England in the semi finals and when someone voices their opinion he is sending legal notices to them and that rings a bell as a hypocrite   .

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.
I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.

I really hate it when they bring in something and make it about religion. There is no need to do that at all. Now I know that there are a lot of controversies going on with the ICC and the way they handle things. A lot of people do say that India is always being favored by the ICC. But the thing is people are not going to respect your team. If you do not respect it yourself. And respect will always come when you start playing well.

As you said, Virat Kohli was out of form for quite a while. But I don’t think that former cricketers or even the media of India said anything bad about Virat Kohli. They supported their flair when he needed them the most.

[SATWAT]

^^^ There are no saints here. Rameez has done wonders for the PCB, and let's focus on that rather than the verbal duels. But I agree that he should not react to the provocations and need to act in a calm manner. It is not going to be beneficial for anyone, if the PCB officials and the ex-players wash their dirty laundry out in the open. I don't know whether it was right for him to send the legal notices to his critics. And it maybe a good idea to withdraw them and sort out the issues in private, rather than publicizing this issue anymore.

No one denying his recent contribution to PCB but it's also true that at the same time, under his watch shit talking went to another level.

Even PCB's official twitter account acts like it's handled by some teenager (trolling teams on getting knocked out from WC).

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Ha! 6 teams, well let's see.  

@JSRAW here I am not agreed with you because official account is surely doing not trolling or anything wrong because they all know how to do things in positively even few things are not good but surely this all is part of the game.

[JSRAW]

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@JSRAW here I am not agreed with you because official account is surely doing not trolling or anything wrong because they all know how to do things in positively even few things are not good but surely this all is part of the game.

They deleted the 2 posts regarding South Africa and India. When I saw those tweets then I had to recheck if it was some parody account and to my surprise, it wasn't.

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.
I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.

I really hate it when they bring in something and make it about religion. There is no need to do that at all. Now I know that there are a lot of controversies going on with the ICC and the way they handle things. A lot of people do say that India is always being favored by the ICC. But the thing is people are not going to respect your team. If you do not respect it yourself. And respect will always come when you start playing well.

As you said, Virat Kohli was out of form for quite a while. But I don’t think that former cricketers or even the media of India said anything bad about Virat Kohli. They supported their flair when he needed them the most.

Well to be fair to them, for some weird reason almost everyone from Pakistani side brings religion. Be it Waqar's comment or recently Rizwan's post-match interview after winning the semis against kiwis.

I can't imagine such language from BCCI's officials, Indian commentator or Indian team. 

[pakhitheboss]

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@JSRAW here I am not agreed with you because official account is surely doing not trolling or anything wrong because they all know how to do things in positively even few things are not good but surely this all is part of the game.

They deleted the 2 posts regarding South Africa and India. When I saw those tweets then I had to recheck if it was some parody account and to my surprise, it wasn't.

This "Billion dollar" Jab is just one example. There are quite a few instances where he becomes loose cannon against opposition teams " Beat em and we'll get a blank check" "Kohli scored a ton against 3rd rate team -Afganistan-)". Imagine ECB, CA, BCCI's president start talking like this.
I like the show you were referring to in your previous comment. The only thing I hate is when they bring religion into everything. Some might still remember Waqar Younis's bigoted comment last year, he came out as a true Islamist and later he had to apologize in public but it was just a damage control tactic IMO.

I really hate it when they bring in something and make it about religion. There is no need to do that at all. Now I know that there are a lot of controversies going on with the ICC and the way they handle things. A lot of people do say that India is always being favored by the ICC. But the thing is people are not going to respect your team. If you do not respect it yourself. And respect will always come when you start playing well.

As you said, Virat Kohli was out of form for quite a while. But I don’t think that former cricketers or even the media of India said anything bad about Virat Kohli. They supported their flair when he needed them the most.

Well to be fair to them, for some weird reason almost everyone from Pakistani side brings religion. Be it Waqar's comment or recently Rizwan's post-match interview after winning the semis against kiwis.

I can't imagine such language from BCCI's officials, Indian commentator or Indian team. 

Well! Half of the Pakistani team believe in tabliq. There is nothing wrong in preaching your religion but mixing it up with professional sports is a concern. The biggest example of such kind of behaviour was when Md Rizwan plaided the lord for his achievements in the semifinal against SA multiple time. The clip has become viral now. It is a controversial topic and I personally think sports should not be mixed with religious activities.

[fullhdpixel]

It remains to be seen how Pakistan cricket has improved during his tenure. Whatever the cricket board chairman says irrelevantly. But it is true that even though Pakistan cricket has improved, Ramij Raja is viewed negatively by many in the cricketing world. Because there is some differences in his speech. After all we want every country's cricket to thrive and conduct cricket with honesty and integrity. As a result at least cricket will improve.

No doubt we have too many positive changes after arrival of Ramiz Raja as President of PCB even till very long way to go for them if they want to be bigger and stable in this game and around the world but still good approach by him for handling things which was never been good and favourable for the long term games future but as few already mentioning above positive and negative points of this post and attitude this is surely happening in subcontinent specially in Pakistan because system is not strong and many form cricketers which fail to have any post or contract with leagues can also show their frustration even they never deserve for this post, but they feel it's not justifying by them hopefully things will be changed, and they could be able to understand this all.

[ZAINmalik75]

It remains to be seen how Pakistan cricket has improved during his tenure. Whatever the cricket board chairman says irrelevantly. But it is true that even though Pakistan cricket has improved,

Everyone see how Pakistan improve entire things which required for best team like feilding, batting, bowling.
No doubt we have always best team but feilding and batting were the two main problem which didn't allow us to beat the big team like India in world cup , but with the help of PSL and ramiz raja Pakistan build a strong team which has ability to beat any team at any big event.
So everyone should accept that Pakistan is now improve side at every side so be aware 🕶️

[darewaller]

I really hate it when they bring in something and make it about religion. There is no need to do that at all. Now I know that there are a lot of controversies going on with the ICC and the way they handle things. A lot of people do say that India is always being favored by the ICC. But the thing is people are not going to respect your team. If you do not respect it yourself. And respect will always come when you start playing well.

As you said, Virat Kohli was out of form for quite a while. But I don’t think that former cricketers or even the media of India said anything bad about Virat Kohli. They supported their flair when he needed them the most.

Here we have to understand few things specially culture of subcontinent where religion is key factor for last few decades because of political influence so if someone doing things like this even never been good or liked but still happening because they have no other positive way to give their personal thoughts.

So, they include things like these which create more mess up even many crimes are going happen just in these religion circumstances but no one can do anything positive for change as education and personal sentiments are having big impact on this all and remember one thing creating of Pakistan is also just based on religion so this all is part of the life and nothing can change in near future.