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March 25, 2023, 09:51:26 PM
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I am not convinced that in the long end this is profitable. It doesn’t make sense to combine multiple 1.01 or 1.02 odds as the total odd is still low. It can go good for a long time but you only need to lose 1 or 2 of this bets and all your profit will be gone. Everybody needs to have their own betting strategy but I tried this in the past and didn’t end up in profit in the long end.
Same here, I am almost never playing odds lower then 1.6, seems to me like the chance to get them wrong is almost the same and payout is nowhere near as good if you actually get them.

I am always looking for games or set handicaps in tennis, both can be very profitable if used properly.
Even every one is going with his own strategy in gambling and sports betting but here I agreed going with very low odds are never been ideal situation because you are on risk in every bet and then playing with odds like these @1.20 or @1.01 is never been suitable mostly I also prefer odds above @1.60 because these are much better, and you can go with better profit as well even ratio of lost is still at level with fewer odds because I just check many players with odds like @1.2 or @1.44 lost badly against lower rank players which make sense never run with these odds which are giving you not ideal return.

Here I want to add something more I personally love to check @Trofo picks as well because he is also good in Tennis and his picks mostly works for me specially while I am not in good touch for these tennis matches.

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March 25, 2023, 11:07:50 PM
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I am not convinced that in the long end this is profitable. It doesn’t make sense to combine multiple 1.01 or 1.02 odds as the total odd is still low. It can go good for a long time but you only need to lose 1 or 2 of this bets and all your profit will be gone. Everybody needs to have their own betting strategy but I tried this in the past and didn’t end up in profit in the long end.
Same here, I am almost never playing odds lower then 1.6, seems to me like the chance to get them wrong is almost the same and payout is nowhere near as good if you actually get them.

I am always looking for games or set handicaps in tennis, both can be very profitable if used properly.

That's actually a true point and I think in tennis it happens relatively often that a player turns it around when it seems that there is no chance left. I might be biased with my perception though, but I have this feeling of going for some risk and then not doing it and regretting it in tennis more often than in soccer. I don't know what you think, but there are these games where it is not worth it to bet on the leader of the game or the favorite, especially not when it is for odds of much smaller than 1.6 as you said. The payout is not worth the risk, but the opposite, betting on the guy who has odds of 9 or 10, I have quite often had this feeling and then didn't do it.

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March 25, 2023, 11:16:40 PM
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Alcaraz had an easy win against Bagnis 6-0 6-3 and reached round of 32 where he's gonna play against Lajović who had earlier won against Andy Murray 6-4 7-5. Andy Murray isn't able to perform as the past and Medvedev is playing against Carballés Baena on the round of 64. The first set have begun and both have won a point. This is gonna be a two set match.

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March 26, 2023, 08:05:27 AM
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Yes, thats one of the best ways of adding value to low odds. I won my first combo's
yesterday with 6 matches and a $2 stake im not a high roller, my stakes wont make or break me 😉.
Thanks to Trofo regarding Muchova but it was Fucsovics v Rune which added the value.

Todays combo may not turn out the same way though:

Felix AA, Norrie, Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Tiafoe all to win.


I am not convinced that in the long end this is profitable. It doesn’t make sense to combine multiple 1.01 or 1.02 odds as the total odd is still low. It can go good for a long time but you only need to lose 1 or 2 of this bets and all your profit will be gone. Everybody needs to have their own betting strategy but I tried this in the past and didn’t end up in profit in the long end.


So yea from reading the posts above its not a great tactic especially with such low odds

The second one I did on yesterdays matches didnt come through, Norrie let the combo bet
down losing to Barrère quite easily 6-3 and 6-2, and Tsitsipas got a walkover against Gasquet
which changed the overall odds too.

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Todays combo may not turn out the same way though:

Felix AA, Norrie, Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Tiafoe all to win.

So yea from reading the posts above its not a great tactic especially with such low odds


I am not convinced that in the long end this is profitable. It doesn’t make sense to combine multiple 1.01 or 1.02 odds as the total odd is still low. It can go good for a long time but you only need to lose 1 or 2 of this bets and all your profit will be gone. Everybody needs to have their own betting strategy but I tried this in the past and didn’t end up in profit in the long end.
Same here, I am almost never playing odds lower then 1.6, seems to me like the chance to get them wrong is almost the same and payout is nowhere near as good if you actually get them.

I am always looking for games or set handicaps in tennis, both can be very profitable if used properly.

That's actually a true point and I think in tennis it happens relatively often that a player turns it around when it seems that there is no chance left. I might be biased with my perception though, but I have this feeling of going for some risk and then not doing it and regretting it in tennis more often than in soccer. I don't know what you think, but there are these games where it is not worth it to bet on the leader of the game or the favorite, especially not when it is for odds of much smaller than 1.6 as you said. The payout is not worth the risk, but the opposite, betting on the guy who has odds of 9 or 10, I have quite often had this feeling and then didn't do it.

What about an in play bet, waiting for the heavy favourite to possibly get broken or to go
behind in a crucial game but believing he or she is going to win in the end? the odds can
change to something more favourable.

(although I have tried that before and most times it didnt work out for me)

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March 26, 2023, 01:19:16 PM
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Alcaraz had an easy win against Bagnis 6-0 6-3 and reached round of 32 where he's gonna play against Lajović who had earlier won against Andy Murray 6-4 7-5. Andy Murray isn't able to perform as the past and Medvedev is playing against Carballés Baena on the round of 64. The first set have begun and both have won a point. This is gonna be a two set match.

Small correction, Alcaraz won even more convincingly, 6:0, 6:2 against Facundo Bagnis.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/65071995

Alcaraz this year, after returning from injury, is playing really fantastically and lost only 1 out of 16 matches.
In order to remain first on the tennis list, he must win the title in Miami, but it seems to me that this is an achievable goal for him.
In fact, it seems that only the sky is the limit for him and that he is becoming an increasingly difficult competitor to Nadal and Djokovic and I believe that we will see him at the top of world tennis for a long time.
It will be very interesting to watch the upcoming Roland Garros with Alcaraz, Nadal and Djokovic. Can he stop the dominance of Nadal in Paris?

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We have seen some surprising results in the miami tournament after zvereve 2 0 loss to Taro daniel today Norrie lost also 2 0 against barrere, he performed really poorly and couldn't even break one serve of barrere's congrats to the frensh player for an awsome performance on this tournament, next he will face eubanks i think he can make it far in Miami ATP.
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What about an in play bet, waiting for the heavy favourite to possibly get broken or to go
behind in a crucial game but believing he or she is going to win in the end? the odds can
change to something more favourable.

(although I have tried that before and most times it didnt work out for me)

You name it! Wink It doesn't work very often and I would add that it is often not profitable enough even if Nadal is down 1-5 and his own serve, sometimes the odds are ridiculously low. It is better to either have two strong players or two weaker players from the ATP midfield. You can also do it on completely random players from way down the ATP ranking, but I don't follow that at all.

These turnarounds makes watching sport so much fun. Whenever one of the GOATs was in the final of a grand slam, nobody really wanted to see a 3-0 in two hours. Except for Federer when he came back from his injuries I really hoped for him to add some more titles no matter how. Smiley

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March 26, 2023, 03:37:40 PM
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Today's the first day of some serious matches in Miami:

ATP:

Davidovich Fokina v Paul  Hard one, but Paul looks more consistent. H2H is also 1:0 in his favor.

Fritz v Shapovalov  I'll bet on Taylor, despite him trailing 3:5 in h2h matches. Fritz is really good on home soil and Denis seems to be a bit out of form currently.

Schwartzman v Rune Both guys haven't been showing any top level tennis lately but Rune shows some signs of recovery and he's much younger than the Argentinian veteran.

Alcaraz v Lajovic  I guess no questions should arise: #1 ATP and the best playing player currently.

Sinner v Dimitrov  Sinner has been showing great tennis lately and he's much younger. Dimitrov's "golden years" are over and his career is a huge disappointment for his fans as "baby Fed" had failed to reach the top level (top 3-5). The only match they played was in 2020 on clay and Dimitrov won that one.

Ruud v Zandschulp Now this one is hard, 3 set match definitely, stats are in favor of the Dutch, but I have a hunch Ruud is going to win this time.

WTA:

Kenin v Andreescu  Andreescu is back even stronger, Kenin seems to have some psychological issues (pressure from her dad?)

Pliskova v Vondrousova H2H is 3:0 in favor of Karolina, but Pliskova hasn't been showing any decent results lately. The bookies seem to agree with me on this one.

Alexandrova v Bencic Dmitry Tursunov famous for his success with Anett Kontaveit can really make a change for Belinda. She has already showed it by winning in Guadalajara.

Cirstea v Muchova

Krejcikova v Keys

Bouzkova v Sabalenka The power of Sabalenka is hard to match. Perhaps we'll even see another Sabalenka - Rybakina final.

I've marked the winner of the match in my opinion in bold. Get ready for an exciting tennis night!  Cool
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March 27, 2023, 06:40:49 AM
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I saw the last set of the Davidovich Fokina v Paul, that was a tough match, very close and
some fantastic shot making by both. Paul has been playing well lately and took the
win 3-6, 5-7.

I also saw the first set of Schwartzman v Rune. Diego was no match for Rune who was just
better all round really. Two sets again 4-6 & 2-6.

Interesting match later today, Felix AA v Cerundolo, this could go either way IMO, Felix has
struggled a bit in his last match beating Montiero in two tie breaks!

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Another really impressive performance from Sinner, I really like how he's playing.
I watched him live and do feel that he's got what it takes to challenge for the biggest trophies.

He's got Rublev next in what should be a great match. The winner will probably face Alcaraz in the semifinal.

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March 27, 2023, 09:56:12 AM
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Another disappointing result for Casper Ruud, in the third set he was already in the lead as he managed to break his opponent's serve but he was not good enough to maintain his advantage and Botic managed to take the final set to win it. Ruud hasn't shown anything good this year unlike last year where he was able to last quite a while in a tournament.
Today's match that will be interesting is Khachanov vs Jiří Lehečka, Lehečka beat Mussetti convincingly in the previous round, in the match against Khachanov it will be more difficult for him but he has a chance to beat this opponent and could be with a long match of 3 sets. Lehečka will probably beat the seed in this tournament again, he has been quite impressive in the previous rounds.

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March 27, 2023, 11:28:25 AM
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Another disappointing result for Casper Ruud, in the third set he was already in the lead as he managed to break his opponent's serve but he was not good enough to maintain his advantage and Botic managed to take the final set to win it. Ruud hasn't shown anything good this year unlike last year where he was able to last quite a while in a tournament.
Today's match that will be interesting is Khachanov vs Jiří Lehečka, Lehečka beat Mussetti convincingly in the previous round, in the match against Khachanov it will be more difficult for him but he has a chance to beat this opponent and could be with a long match of 3 sets. Lehečka will probably beat the seed in this tournament again, he has been quite impressive in the previous rounds.

Yes, I agree, Khachanov - Lehecka will be one of the most interesting matches today. Here's an overview of today's order of play (provisionary winner in bold):

ATP
Garin v Tsitsipas  Easy win for the "Greek God", Garin is only somewhat good on clay but even there Stefanos is leading 2:0 H2H.
Khachanov v Lehecka It's gonna be along, exhausting 3 set match. Anybody's game really. My hunch says Lehecka.
Auger-Aliassime v Cerundolo Felix's time to shine today. H2H stats are with me on this: the Canadian leading 2:0.
Hurkacz v Mannarino  Easy 2 set match for the Pole.
Sonego v Tiafoe  Good performance in Indian Wells for Frances, he's good on home courts like most Americans. My bet is on him.

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Trevisan v Ostapenko Easy match for Ostapenko if she will keep playing like she did in previous rounds.
Pegula v Linette  Pegula showing some spectacular performance lately. 
Zheng v Potapova  Potapova has been great so far: consistency, accuracy, power don't see how the Chinese can overcome this hurdle.
Rybakina v Mertens  Mertens is recovering from her series of 1st round losses and may play well today. Still Rybakina is my favorite, her level is too high for the Belgian.
Kvitova v Gracheva  One way traffic, this one. Kvitova to win in 2.
Andreescu v Alexandrova  Alexandrova showed some awesome skill by winning Bencic. Andreescu is showing her best tennis in Miami. Grand Slam level, too high for Alexandrova to beat.
Krejcikova v Sabalenka  Sabalenka is on the way to another final. So far she's been unstoppable and I don't believe Krejcikova can stop her today. Although, 3 sets possible.
Cirstea v Vondrousova Both girls are not top level tennis stars but average (can we say average about top50?). Hard match, this one, but my bet will be on Marketa. 3 sets highly possible.

Let's bet and watch some awesome matches tonight! Good luck!  Cool
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March 27, 2023, 11:44:24 AM
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Another really impressive performance from Sinner, I really like how he's playing.
I watched him live and do feel that he's got what it takes to challenge for the biggest trophies.

He's got Rublev next in what should be a great match. The winner will probably face Alcaraz in the semifinal.

The performance of Sinner was great against Dimitrov.
Sinner did not give his opponent any chance in that match. Two very convincing sets from him.

The next match of Sinner is obviously not going to be as easy.
Because of course, the next match is going to be against Rublev, I am not going to be surprised if this match goes to three sets.

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Another disappointing result for Casper Ruud, in the third set he was already in the lead as he managed to break his opponent's serve but he was not good enough to maintain his advantage and Botic managed to take the final set to win it. Ruud hasn't shown anything good this year unlike last year where he was able to last quite a while in a tournament.
Today's match that will be interesting is Khachanov vs Jiří Lehečka, Lehečka beat Mussetti convincingly in the previous round, in the match against Khachanov it will be more difficult for him but he has a chance to beat this opponent and could be with a long match of 3 sets. Lehečka will probably beat the seed in this tournament again, he has been quite impressive in the previous rounds.

Yes, I agree, Khachanov - Lehecka will be one of the most interesting matches today. Here's an overview of today's order of play (provisionary winner in bold):

ATP
Garin v Tsitsipas  Easy win for the "Greek God", Garin is only somewhat good on clay but even there Stefanos is leading 2:0 H2H.
Khachanov v Lehecka It's gonna be along, exhausting 3 set match. Anybody's game really. My hunch says Lehecka.
Auger-Aliassime v Cerundolo Felix's time to shine today. H2H stats are with me on this: the Canadian leading 2:0.
Hurkacz v Mannarino  Easy 2 set match for the Pole.
Sonego v Tiafoe  Good performance in Indian Wells for Frances, he's good on home courts like most Americans. My bet is on him.

Let's bet and watch some awesome matches tonight! Good luck!  Cool

Good synopsis, I agree with them all FWIW. I have a bet on all those ATP matches in
some form or another but I'm steering clear of the Khachanov v Lehecka.

I will probably watch more WTA matches but wont bet on very many compared to the ATP.

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March 27, 2023, 12:51:34 PM
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Zverev lost in only two sets even in the first set he was unable to get a single game, is there something wrong with him? not sure and the second set was not enough for Zverev to take the match to the third as his serve was broken again by Daniel and he lost.

The performance from Zverev was very disappointing. After playing good tennis again in Indian Wells he made a lot of mistakes now in this match. I do not know what was wrong with him. But Daniel did well. He managed to make Zverev not find his own rhythm of play.

Another disappointing result for Casper Ruud, in the third set he was already in the lead as he managed to break his opponent's serve but he was not good enough to maintain his advantage and Botic managed to take the final set to win it. Ruud hasn't shown anything good this year unlike last year where he was able to last quite a while in a tournament.

Ruud has really a negative streak. It looks like this year is not going to be his year. Although it is still quite early to evaluate that. But so far he is not able to get out of his bad performance.
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March 27, 2023, 03:57:37 PM
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Zverev lost in only two sets even in the first set he was unable to get a single game, is there something wrong with him? not sure and the second set was not enough for Zverev to take the match to the third as his serve was broken again by Daniel and he lost.

The performance from Zverev was very disappointing. After playing good tennis again in Indian Wells he made a lot of mistakes now in this match. I do not know what was wrong with him. But Daniel did well. He managed to make Zverev not find his own rhythm of play.

Another disappointing result for Casper Ruud, in the third set he was already in the lead as he managed to break his opponent's serve but he was not good enough to maintain his advantage and Botic managed to take the final set to win it. Ruud hasn't shown anything good this year unlike last year where he was able to last quite a while in a tournament.

Ruud has really a negative streak. It looks like this year is not going to be his year. Although it is still quite early to evaluate that. But so far he is not able to get out of his bad performance.

I am fully aware of the fact that Zverev had a bad injury, but for how long is this going to be impacting him? These guys at this level have all kinds of coaches. Physically, mentally, whatever they need. His results are pretty bad so far. Lost in the 2nd round at the Australian Open, lost in the round of 16 in Rotterdam, lost in the round of 16 in Qatar, the best was the semifinal against Rublev in Dubai, then he lost again in the round of 16 in Indian Wells, and now he got smashed in the round of 64 in Miami.

The injury is the only excuse here. If it isn't the injury, then what can it be? Is he too distracted from tennis? Is he still as focused as he used to be a while ago when he had these great games and fights?

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March 27, 2023, 08:28:32 PM
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Alliassime vs cerundolo is not going as i expected its a totaly different game from the last one they had few weeks ago, cerundolo won the first set easily and the second one seem tied at the moment but i still think aliassime can turn things around he's been in a good shape recently.
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March 27, 2023, 08:42:05 PM
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Alliassime vs cerundolo is not going as i expected its a totaly different game from the last one they had few weeks ago, cerundolo won the first set easily and the second one seem tied at the moment but i still think aliassime can turn things around he's been in a good shape recently.
The first set too a big win for Cerúndolo, as Aliassime have lost the first set of the match 2-6. The young player have been fighting hard and the second set is lead by Cerúndolo 6-5. Big Performance have come from Cerúndolo. It looks like Auger Aliassime is feeling down, even in his previous match against Monteiro he won the match in two direct sets, but both the sets were won on the tie breaker 77-65 710-68.
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March 27, 2023, 09:03:35 PM
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Alliassime vs cerundolo is not going as i expected its a totaly different game from the last one they had few weeks ago, cerundolo won the first set easily and the second one seem tied at the moment but i still think aliassime can turn things around he's been in a good shape recently.
The first set too a big win for Cerúndolo, as Aliassime have lost the first set of the match 2-6. The young player have been fighting hard and the second set is lead by Cerúndolo 6-5. Big Performance have come from Cerúndolo. It looks like Auger Aliassime is feeling down, even in his previous match against Monteiro he won the match in two direct sets, but both the sets were won on the tie breaker 77-65 710-68.

I did say Felix AA was not performing at his usual level but I still backed him today,
I thought he would still prevail but yea going out in 2 sets is not great for his capabilities.
Cerundolo I learned was a semi finalist last year, yea I learned that after he beat Felix....
Well done to Cerundolo, he gets his revenge after Felux beating him at Indian Wells!

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March 27, 2023, 09:10:06 PM
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Alliassime vs cerundolo is not going as i expected its a totaly different game from the last one they had few weeks ago, cerundolo won the first set easily and the second one seem tied at the moment but i still think aliassime can turn things around he's been in a good shape recently.
The first set too a big win for Cerúndolo, as Aliassime have lost the first set of the match 2-6. The young player have been fighting hard and the second set is lead by Cerúndolo 6-5. Big Performance have come from Cerúndolo. It looks like Auger Aliassime is feeling down, even in his previous match against Monteiro he won the match in two direct sets, but both the sets were won on the tie breaker 77-65 710-68.

I did say Felix AA was not performing at his usual level but I still backed him today,
I thought he would still prevail but yea going out in 2 sets is not great for his capabilities.
Cerundolo I learned was a semi finalist last year, yea I learned that after he beat Felix....
Every tournament used to have disappointing outcome. In the Miami Open this is second disappointment, first one was the loss of Zverev against Taro Daniel that too in a very bad way 6-0 6-4. Now the second one where Alex is predicted as the winner and today everyone who had chosen have got good luck to win big rewards. Last year's semi finalist seems to reach the semifinals this season too.

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