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January 15, 2023, 02:55:01 PM
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I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

That's why he wants to prove to everyone that he can tank a team with only himself but that's obviously not enough and they are falling behind like they are not gonna make it to the playoffs this year. That's why we are hearing rumors that he is not really interested anymore in playing in Utah and probably might gonna consider playing in San Antonio Spurs because he reportedly bought a mansion there. I don't know if it it's true but he probably considering taking another road if he wants to win a championship.


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January 15, 2023, 03:23:31 PM
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Clarkson is indeed playing like an all star, he is now a go to guy of the Jazz, even without Lauri Markkanen on the floor, the coaching staff are still choosing him to produce in crunch time because he is a clutch player. He dropped 38 points last night, that's a serious statement because it's against Embiid and Harden, actually, it looks like a batter between Harden and Clarkson, and see the level of Harden, he was a former MVP.

Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson, I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.

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January 15, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
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....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,
Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

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I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.
I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.

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January 15, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
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I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

Clarkson really wanted to win this match. It's unbelievable to score 38 points. It would certainly be beneficial for the team if a player with such talent and scoring so many points stays in the team. But it is very important that this performance is consistent and that it contributes to the team in a similar way in every match. It was a sad loss for the Utah Jazz, they lost the game by only 1 point

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January 15, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
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Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

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January 15, 2023, 08:23:13 PM
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Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

Dallas without Luka on the court might be one of the worst teams in the league.  They need much more than 1 player to compete for a title, Luka can't do it all on his own.  Wood is a good piece but not the type of player that will tilt their way to a title.  Teams like Denver in 7 game series would eat them up.  Luka is good to carry the team on his own once or twice but no way any team doesn't throw double teams on him all series long.

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January 15, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
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Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

With that statement regarding to have an additional superstar to help Luka, I think it's time now for the management to look for a good trade.
like what you said, Spencer and Wood are great players but to help Luka in achieving the title.

Still a big task for these two stars, Luka need someone who can play like him or a big threat like him with both offense and defense,

A consistent addition to make sure Luka will receive the help that he needs each time they are playing.
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I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.

Right now, the Jazz can only offer up to $16 Million for a contract extension. With the way Jordan Clarkson is performing right now, he deserves above $20 Million for the first year. The Jazz cannot legally offer that because of NBA restrictions on extensions. I think he will wait until the off season and then he can legally negotiate a higher price, whether it will be with the Jazz or another team. And if that does not pan out or no offers came, he can always pick up his player options for the 2023-2024 season. 

....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,
Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

Since they are rebuilding, the Jazz probably will get their franchise player from draft picks and will need Jordan Clarkson as a veteran that will guide or mentor the young superstars.
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I like that there is a match early in the morning, we can watch two matches in a row on TV. That's the difference of living in Europe, of course, it's midnight for us now. Normally the matches are very late.
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Now there is the game between the Golden State Warriors and the Chicago Bulls. Chicago started the game well and has already led to 15 points. It's a fun match. It looks like Chicago will win the game without letting the opponent catch up.

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Reports saying that the Lakers are trying to talk LeBron into riding out this year and then in the offseason they'll try to get Dame or Beal.  I honestly think from a business perspective, this is the only thing that makes sense with Westbrook's contract.  They're going to have to eat that money and then try again to get a championship level point guard.  I'd personally love to see Dame and LeBron play together, as they're both a couple of the best ever at what they do.  They're both getting pretty old though.  I hope there's still time for them to play at a high level.  In any event, this is bad news for people who wanted to see the Lakers in the playoffs this year.

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I love me some Dame time.  But he is on the backend of his career he can't be the young juice they bring in.  AD and Bron will be another year older.  Bringing in vets barely ever works.  Honestly Beal might be a good option though, haven't followed his injury history although I know he has been out this year a bunch already.  They need bodies on the floor 82 games a year.  That is their issue.

Yeah, but maybe he can still bring some championship to the Lakers? He is still good no doubt about that, it's that the Portland management was not able to surround Dame with good players. and maybe if him and Lebron can be team mates, who knows, maybe they will click as long as the second unit will be their to assists them.

I understand that they have to play gruelling 82 games and then the playoffs, but that's the true testament of a good player and solid team.

And I think Dame + Lebron might be a good combo.

Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team. Lebron already had Westbrook, in fact, before Westbrook played with the Lakers, the hyped was very high since Westbrook is a triple double machine, but they failed our expectation.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

I'm sorry to say but I don't think there is such loyalty with this teams. I mean even if Dame wanted to stay, but if the management decided to ship him out, he can't do anything about it. Only few players remain loyal to their team and retired with them but they bring championship to that franchise. If Dame can't do it, then obviously management will have to go to rebuilding phase. And when you are out of your prime, then most likely the team will not value you anymore, just saying.

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January 15, 2023, 09:48:12 PM
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This is what the beauty of these rumors, despite having no official announcement, everyone is making and giving their opinions on what's good and bad potential outcome for such.

Saying that he wants to stay in the Utah Jazz is just all about words and if that's what really desires to be but with his market value and if it can't be helped then, he'll for sure going to find another team that's willing to give his desired contract not unless he's got the heart to stay for Jazz.

People are even rooting for the Utah Jazz already to participate in the upcoming playoffs because despite of the fact that the team is still rebuilding, they are showing some good signs from having a consistent performance since the season started and still getting some improvement in every games which is quite unexpected from a team that is supposed to be tanking this season. Hopefully, the Jazz can adjust with Clarkson's price for at least a year to see where will this team go.
I've been seeing them in the past seasons but always fell short of glory when it's about the playoffs. Like the start of this season, they're at the top but now they're currently #9.

Still, he has became the franchise player of Utah Jazz so if the management is considering that. They'll have to bear and give the demand of JC if it's still allowable by their budget and limitations.



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January 15, 2023, 10:25:04 PM
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....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,
Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

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I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.
I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.
Yes. They are trying to rebuild so they will need that cap to maximize their opportunity to create a duo or trio and pay them at a level they can afford and still be able to surround them with good players for a deeper bench.
Now, if Clarkson's agent will force the issue of having a salary like Steph, Kawhi, or those at the same level as them it might be difficult for the Utah Jazz to make it a better team.
He may be at his highest peak but he won't go anywhere without teammates to reflect his greatness. It will not end very well for the Utah Jazz and they learned their lesson from their past duo.

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January 15, 2023, 10:33:52 PM
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....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,
Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

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I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.
I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.
Yes. They are trying to rebuild so they will need that cap to maximize their opportunity to create a duo or trio and pay them at a level they can afford and still be able to surround them with good players for a deeper bench.
Now, if Clarkson's agent will force the issue of having a salary like Steph, Kawhi, or those at the same level as them it might be difficult for the Utah Jazz to make it a better team.
He may be at his highest peak but he won't go anywhere without teammates to reflect his greatness. It will not end very well for the Utah Jazz and they learned their lesson from their past duo.

This is what I'm saying. Kawhi, before he achieved that salary that he's receiving right now, posted a championship win and MVP for the Spurs in 2014. Clarkson hasn't really carried the team anywhere and they're already looking for a massive bump in his salary. Not really arguing that JC is a great all-rounder, but as a franchise you have to consider that you must also build your team around your current star player, and if all the budget is maxed out on just the star player alone, you will eventually see your team failing to achieve wins and attain records.

Hopefully they reconsider their moves (JC and his agent) very carefully because they might regret this decision that they are trying to force the Jazz.

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January 15, 2023, 10:52:48 PM
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I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

Clarkson really wanted to win this match. It's unbelievable to score 38 points. It would certainly be beneficial for the team if a player with such talent and scoring so many points stays in the team. But it is very important that this performance is consistent and that it contributes to the team in a similar way in every match. It was a sad loss for the Utah Jazz, they lost the game by only 1 point
What a great performance Clarkson put on in his last game. I was surprised with his performance and it's clear that I have no doubts that he intends to become an allstar.
I confess that I was kinda sad with the defeat of the Jazz in the last game with only 1 point, but the Philadelphia 76ers stood out and managed to win the match.
I'll be curious to see if this great performance from Clarkson will hold up... he's been playing very well in a few games lately.

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January 15, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
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I'm sorry to say but I don't think there is such loyalty with this teams. I mean even if Dame wanted to stay, but if the management decided to ship him out, he can't do anything about it. Only few players remain loyal to their team and retired with them but they bring championship to that franchise. If Dame can't do it, then obviously management will have to go to rebuilding phase. And when you are out of your prime, then most likely the team will not value you anymore, just saying.

Well, Dame has been vocal about his commitment and loyalty to the team so it will all depend on the management. He still has a contract up to Season 2024 so he is guaranteed to be paid until then. If Dame wants to chase a ring, he should go somewhere else. Since CJ was shipped out, he has no help anymore to make a title run in Portland. He is aging and soon his value will drop. If he cannot bring a ring to Portland because of the lack of support from management, he should get it somewhere else.

I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

Clarkson really wanted to win this match. It's unbelievable to score 38 points. It would certainly be beneficial for the team if a player with such talent and scoring so many points stays in the team. But it is very important that this performance is consistent and that it contributes to the team in a similar way in every match. It was a sad loss for the Utah Jazz, they lost the game by only 1 point
What a great performance Clarkson put on in his last game. I was surprised with his performance and it's clear that I have no doubts that he intends to become an allstar.
I confess that I was kinda sad with the defeat of the Jazz in the last game with only 1 point, but the Philadelphia 76ers stood out and managed to win the match.
I'll be curious to see if this great performance from Clarkson will hold up... he's been playing very well in a few games lately.

Aside from some moments when he is squaring up some players, I think he is performing consistently this year. I think all players wanted to be included in all-star list and Clarkson definitely wants to be included. But it will all depend on the votes. So if you want to see him play in all star, you should vote for him.
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January 15, 2023, 11:38:47 PM
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I mean even if Dame wanted to stay, but if the management decided to ship him out, he can't do anything about it.

Didn't you know that referring specifically to Damian Lillard, he will like that move? Cheesy It's been several times already where he voiced out to the whole Blazers organization that what the fuck*ed is happening on their team on each of their playoffs exits.

As I mentioned before, the Portland Trail Blazers was suck*ed since then in acquiring a big fish either through direct trades, off-season activities, or hunting high-profile players that will enter the free agency that will somehow be considered as a consistent guy working alongside with Lillard.

What I see in this Blazers team ever since is, they will just wait for that "promising" guy that they will be able to pick in the yearly rookie draft and expect that guy to become the next "big deal" for the team like on what happened to Damian Lillard.

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January 15, 2023, 11:59:17 PM
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Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

Damian Lillard expresses to the Blazers before that if the team won't work out properly to improve the team, he might break that loyalty thing.

But several seasons have passed now and looks like Dame already accepts that Blazers won't do their very best to sign a Superstar level to join him.

What's the reason? For me, it's because the Blazers have nothing to offer such a huge contract to other Superstars as they go all-in for Dame.
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January 16, 2023, 01:21:56 AM
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Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

Damian Lillard expresses to the Blazers before that if the team won't work out properly to improve the team, he might break that loyalty thing.

But several seasons have passed now and looks like Dame already accepts that Blazers won't do their very best to sign a Superstar level to join him.

What's the reason? For me, it's because the Blazers have nothing to offer such a huge contract to other Superstars as they go all-in for Dame.
Portland just isn't an interesting landing spot for any big star. They're not a bad team, just bad geographically speaking. Dame won't get a ring there.

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January 16, 2023, 02:01:58 AM
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Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

Damian Lillard expresses to the Blazers before that if the team won't work out properly to improve the team, he might break that loyalty thing.

But several seasons have passed now and looks like Dame already accepts that Blazers won't do their very best to sign a Superstar level to join him.

What's the reason? For me, it's because the Blazers have nothing to offer such a huge contract to other Superstars as they go all-in for Dame.
Inspired by the late Kobe, Jerry West, Larry Bird and Dirk? Maybe that's the reason why Dame is very vocal right now regarding him staying with the Blazers and be loyal instead of him going out and find another team. If he really is genuine into what he is saying then we might see him staying with the Blazers.

Right now, they are at the bottom spot again of the standings but they've got a promising player in Simons. Having better players alongside Lillard and Simons might change the whole team. On the other hand, their chances of winning a title so far is close to zero. I mean we don't see any reasons for the team to win a title right. Cheesy. Maybe lets just hope that they will enter at least the playoffs or the play-ins this season.

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January 16, 2023, 02:14:49 AM
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Hopefully they reconsider their moves (JC and his agent) very carefully because they might regret this decision that they are trying to force the Jazz.
I hope so too, for the greater good of the whole team and not for selfish reasons.
The Jazz is in good shape now, all they need is more experience and chemistry, they even started a good trend in the first 10 games of the season and they became the discussion of being a top contender despite being a young team. The success of the rebuild team will be to satisfy each player by giving them enough salary to stay and not ask for trades.

What I see in this Blazers team ever since is, they will just wait for that "promising" guy that they will be able to pick in the yearly rookie draft and expect that guy to become the next "big deal" for the team like on what happened to Damian Lillard.
I agree. Not really aiming for a championship caliber. They had a lot of chances before with Roy, Aldridge, and Oden. All are wasted.
1977. Their last championship. 92' their last conference championship with Clyde Drexler. After that, 1 conference finals appearance for Damian Lillard against the Warriors. It's a sad story.

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