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April 09, 2016, 11:27:58 AM |
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I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).
One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).
Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.
Both good ideas - especially 1 vote = 1 individual as all voting implementations I've seen are weighted based on stake (maybe I've missed other voting options out there). PS - sad to see Vrontis leave qora but happy to see emancipator sticking aroung
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April 09, 2016, 11:56:24 AM |
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I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).
One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).
Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.
What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token? Particularly for ticketing, but I think it applies to the other cases as well, there is a single entity issuing these vouchers, so they can create as many as they want and sell them for whatever price they want (or in the case of voting distribute them).
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April 09, 2016, 12:28:55 PM Last edit: April 09, 2016, 01:03:40 PM by CIYAM |
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What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token?
The main point of dividing up applications into separate blockchains is to prevent centralisation (which will always eventually result in corruption IMO). It also makes it easier to market something that isn't trying to be everything (a problem that Qora currently has IMO). If you look at the way that the world-wide-web has currently evolved we have multiple "application platforms" rather than just one "this is everything" web-site (i.e. that's why you are using BCT rather than Google for your posts). I have been against the idea of Bitcoin been "the only blockchain" as well (part of the motivation behind the design of AT to be able to function as a way of being able to communicate between blockchains). Also certain applications will prefer faster confirmations than others (not really possible if you want to put them all in the one) and others might actually be geographically limited (which will be able to work much faster because of that). It's also a bit like what NASA does with a spaceship - it has multiple redundant systems so if one system malfunctions you don't end up with a catastrophe (by having all blockchains support AT then in fact all applications could be run on any one of them although it might not work as nicely on a blockchain that was designed for a more specific purpose). In regards to voting I am not interested in a POS approach and the alternative requires a different kind of mechanism to control account creation (which I've been working on for some time now). When you have such a fundamental difference it makes sense to create a different blockchain (rather than to try and add that as another feature to the one blockchain).
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April 09, 2016, 01:00:57 PM |
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Another reason for multiple blockchains is that for some commercial enterprises the use of a cloud services to host the majority (if not all) of the nodes might be what such commercial enterprises actually want to do (I can see the equivalent of shopping centre vouchers perhaps working like this in the future).
So in short I don't see that we can have a "one size fits all" blockchain (and I think that it is prudent to have alternatives much like perhaps carrying more than one type of credit card).
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April 09, 2016, 01:18:37 PM |
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It's a pity that the ACCT AT was so poorly reported (due to the theft of the Burst marketing funds for it) so it isn't even understood that between Qora and Burst there is no tx malleability issue (and that is no longer a problem when using Bitcoin and Litecoin now due to CLTV).
In fact I am pretty certain that the first ever live-net ACCT (i.e. between two live-net blockchains) was between Qora and Burst using AT (it is possible some experimental (and subject to tx malleability attack) tx took place between Bitcoin and Litecoin previously but I had only read about ACCT being performed using "testnet" before the ACCT AT went live).
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April 10, 2016, 02:55:44 AM |
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What's the advantage of using a completely separate blockchain here over some kind of asset or token?
The main point of dividing up applications into separate blockchains is to prevent centralisation (which will always eventually result in corruption IMO). It also makes it easier to market something that isn't trying to be everything (a problem that Qora currently has IMO). There's always a temptation to build a swiss-army knife with technology, but often it damages usability. That's a reason why Google crushed all the other 'portal' search engines that were popular in the mid 90's. Page rank gave better results, but for a noobie the main advantage was the Google screen was just so easy to use. Separating things into separate blockchains is a good design idea if it makes things more user-friendly, and it does work against centralisation as CIYAM points out. I like it
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April 10, 2016, 04:42:59 AM |
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Oh yes Qora needs better PR, obviously.
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twospirit
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April 10, 2016, 11:40:54 AM |
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hey guys, who is now in the development team? also, can someone sum up what was happening in last months?
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April 11, 2016, 11:10:29 AM |
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Hi Qora Dev, Can you please add qora to Bitrex , thank you
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Tuck Fheman
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April 15, 2016, 02:52:04 AM |
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Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!
Regardless, stay away from Bter.
Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.
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wizzardTim
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April 15, 2016, 07:40:15 AM |
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BTER finally showed my 5million deposit!
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Behold the Tangle Mysteries! Dare to know It's truth.
- Excerpt from the IOTA Sacred Texts Vol. I
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robstak
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April 15, 2016, 08:21:50 AM |
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Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!
Regardless, stay away from Bter.
Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.
Agree, seems bter just want to lure back their customers.
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April 15, 2016, 12:18:56 PM Last edit: April 15, 2016, 01:04:28 PM by CptAhab |
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People, did anyone notice that the website has been down for some time now? Is there still anything happening there at Qora, and is there any news on Version 0.26.0?
Regarding the prior discussions on Azure, I think it is to bad that the final vote came to 'nay' - the promotion it would have given us (and developers) could have been a blessing for this project which is in the end, like almost any altcoin project, all about wide spread notoriety and adoption.
Still think QORA is one of the best cryptocurrencies, but i could use some upswing..
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rlh
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April 15, 2016, 03:49:40 PM |
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BTER finally showed my 5million deposit!
Miracle! Seriously, cryptoland never ceases to amaze me.
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A Personal Quote on BTT from 2011: "I'd be willing to make a moderate "investment" if the value of the BTC went below $2.00. Otherwise I'll just have to live with my 5 BTC and be happy. :/" ...sigh. If only I knew.
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April 15, 2016, 08:42:27 PM |
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We should try to do more marketing for Qora based on the great blogging and social networking feature. What about the marketing hashtag #Blogchain?
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April 16, 2016, 04:59:46 AM |
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Yes, we need AT between Qora and Bitcoin! The plan is to actually have Qora have its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and Bitcoin (without any 3rd party exchange). AFAIA we are the first to be working on this (and it should be ready in a couple of months assuming everything goes well). Oh my god, that would be a wonderful USP. Cant wait for it. Can someone explain what would be the use of Qora having its own Bitcoin wallet and be able to do ACCT between itself and btc without any third party exchange? What are the likely practical applications of it?
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April 16, 2016, 05:02:03 AM |
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hey guys, who is now in the development team? also, can someone sum up what was happening in last months?
Yes, I'm curious about it too as an investor. I would like to know who is behind it. Can't find any such information on here or the website.
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April 16, 2016, 05:05:17 AM |
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Holy shit, out of the blue and after almost 1 year Bter finally gave our Qora back, it's a miracle!
Regardless, stay away from Bter.
Any exchange claiming they're having wallet issues for nearly 1 year doesn't deserve anyone's business IMHO.
I wouldn't touch Bter with a stick...
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DARKHOLDER
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April 16, 2016, 06:54:22 AM |
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I'll just add a couple of other ideas that I've been thinking about (as the idea of multiple blockchains that all use AT is one that I have held for a long time as well).
One blockchain could become a replacement "ticketing" system for events (and maybe even things like booking transportation).
Another blockchain would be to represent small groups of individuals and support voting (optionally transparent) where one vote represents an individual.
Hello! Im just long term investor of Qora but still want to know something about this years roadmap of Qora.. is there some news about that?
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