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[coinlocket$]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

He seems to be more confident than Gasly with Redbull.

Bigger applause should be done for Norris, I really like him he was 5th till the last lap before engine problems.

He will be one of the top drivers after the Hamilton-Vettel era with Max and James.

[Naida_BR]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

Started from 17th?
Didn't he start from the 10th position?
I thought that he started 10th.

[swogerino]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

I think the applause is deserved for him considering it was his first race with Red Bull and it was in a very difficult track like Spa.He did very well and did one of the best overtakings against a Renault if not the best of all time.Truly a masterpiece of an overtake.

[slocker]

Albon was on that race driver of the day. For me he did awesome test and driving skill are better with better car and that is most important. He prove that he has skill needed for driving in Red Bull team and with that result he prove that. He is probably in next few years with Leclerc and Max one of pretenders for championship titles in upcoming years.

[bbc.reporter]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

He seems to be more confident than Gasly with Redbull.

Bigger applause should be done for Norris, I really like him he was 5th till the last lap before engine problems.

He will be one of the top drivers after the Hamilton-Vettel era with Max and James.

Agreed. Who is James, however? Charles LecLerc?

In any case, Redbull will begin installing Max Verstappen's car with the spec4 engine for the Italian grand prix, which will also give him a penalty. However, he might be a good bet for the Singapore race hehehe.

[swogerino]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

He seems to be more confident than Gasly with Redbull.

Bigger applause should be done for Norris, I really like him he was 5th till the last lap before engine problems.

He will be one of the top drivers after the Hamilton-Vettel era with Max and James.

Agreed. Who is James, however? Charles LecLerc?

In any case, Redbull will begin installing Max Verstappen's car with the spec4 engine for the Italian grand prix, which will also give him a penalty. However, he might be a good bet for the Singapore race hehehe.

I would bet on Verstappen a small amount even if he gets a penalty and will start in the back of the grid because this upcoming is another legendary track with a Safety Car almost guaranteed to be in especially in the beginning of the race,rarely I have seen a start of the race without incidents in Monza Gp.

[joniboini]

Started from 17th?
Didn't he start from the 10th position?
I thought that he started 10th.

He started from 17th. If you need some proof, here's one[1].

He made some right moves too. He did at least two overtake from the grass — very aggressive moves.

[1] https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.albon-says-his-car-came-alive-on-red-bull-debut.3wiLyozXbPgsoj3bevBgaj.html

[slocker]

No applause for Alex Albon? He also had a good race starting from 17th and to finish on 5th. I reckon that new Redbull spec4 engine might do more in the hands of Max Verstappen in Italy hehehe.

He seems to be more confident than Gasly with Redbull.

Bigger applause should be done for Norris, I really like him he was 5th till the last lap before engine problems.

He will be one of the top drivers after the Hamilton-Vettel era with Max and James.

Agreed. Who is James, however? Charles LecLerc?

In any case, Redbull will begin installing Max Verstappen's car with the spec4 engine for the Italian grand prix, which will also give him a penalty. However, he might be a good bet for the Singapore race hehehe.

I would bet on Verstappen a small amount even if he gets a penalty and will start in the back of the grid because this upcoming is another legendary track with a Safety Car almost guaranteed to be in especially in the beginning of the race,rarely I have seen a start of the race without incidents in Monza Gp.

Yes could place bet for safety car on this race  . Almost certain it will be.
On this track think we will see all 3 major team in fight for the pole. But think that Lewis, LecLerc and Max will battle for that pole.

[maculeth]

Difficult season makes Valentino Rossi rumored to be retiring. Not a surprise for the Yamaha Energy Monster racer.

The Italian rider was already 40 years old in 2019. Had started the MotoGP season quite positively - two runners-up in the first three series - Rossi then got results that were not good enough.

[Naida_BR]

Difficult season makes Valentino Rossi rumored to be retiring. Not a surprise for the Yamaha Energy Monster racer.

The Italian rider was already 40 years old in 2019. Had started the MotoGP season quite positively - two runners-up in the first three series - Rossi then got results that were not good enough.

I think that it is time for Rossi to retire.
He is too old for this sport and the results do not come positively as you said.
I hope that Yamaha will keep him in the team in a more managerial position. It would be a good marketing move by them as well.

[coinlocket$]

Formula 1 again in a cool track, Monza.

2018 results according to Wikipedia

Qual. Rain.

1    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:20.722    1:19.846    1:19.1191    1
2    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:20.542    1:19.629    1:19.280    2
3    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:20.810    1:19.798    1:19.294    3

Race

1    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    53    1:16:54.484    3    25
2    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    53    +8.705    1    18
3    Finland Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    53    +14.066    4    15
4    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    53    +16.151    2    12

Finally F1 is back on real tracks.

This should be a race only for Ferrari and Mercedes HOWEVER THE weather is very variable this week here in Italy.

[slocker]

Interesting headline was in my local paper. Roughly translated it something like this "Leclerc is faster again is it time for him to start battle for title".

Interesting was this headline, firstly point difference is more the 100 point, no way with only 8 races to. Only if Lewis dont finish 2 races then it could be interesting and for all 8 to win Leclerc. Todays qualifying will be interesting five drivers can be in pole spot, and they announced that we could expect rain today and tomorrow.

[Naida_BR]

Finally Ferrari and Leclerc got their fist win!
Really happy for what Charles achieved... Again Vettel had an awful race, as Ferrari's strategy was so bad for one more race.
RIP Antoine Hubert... So young and so talented, he will be always remembered...

I am also glad for Leclerc first victory and what a first victory an awesome one in the most legendary F1 Spa track.
Leclerc has shown signs of his speed and determination since the first races but the lack of experience with a big team like Ferrari kept him away from victory until now.I think a great career awaits him.

Monza is a track that is a good fit for Ferrari.
This weekend would be promising for them. I love the fact that rain is involved during the practice. I think that we are going to see another incredible race this weekend.

[Juggy777]

Formula 1 again in a cool track, Monza.

2018 results according to Wikipedia

Qual. Rain.

1    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    1:20.722    1:19.846    1:19.1191    1
2    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    1:20.542    1:19.629    1:19.280    2
3    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    1:20.810    1:19.798    1:19.294    3

Race

1    United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    53    1:16:54.484    3    25
2    Finland Kimi Räikkönen    Ferrari    53    +8.705    1    18
3    Finland Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    53    +14.066    4    15
4    Germany Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    53    +16.151    2    12

Finally F1 is back on real tracks.

This should be a race only for Ferrari and Mercedes HOWEVER THE weather is very variable this week here in Italy.

@coinlocket$ this year too Hamilton will be winning it, as Vettle is out of form and I don’t think any other driver will be able to challenge him.

Interesting headline was in my local paper. Roughly translated it something like this "Leclerc is faster again is it time for him to start battle for title".

Interesting was this headline, firstly point difference is more the 100 point, no way with only 8 races to. Only if Lewis dont finish 2 races then it could be interesting and for all 8 to win Leclerc. Todays qualifying will be interesting five drivers can be in pole spot, and they announced that we could expect rain today and tomorrow.

@slocker which newspaper published it can you share the link, also it’s too late for Leclerc to challenge for the title now maybe next season he’ll be able to give some competition to Hamilton. Which five drivers have they mentioned because I feel only Hamilton can clinch the pole position, but it’ll be interesting if someone else can beat him for first spot.

[coinlocket$]

This should be a race only for Ferrari and Mercedes HOWEVER THE weather is very variable this week here in Italy.

@coinlocket$ this year too Hamilton will be winning it, as Vettle is out of form and I don’t think any other driver will be able to challenge him.

Not sure about that.

On this track as the last one (Pure motor power tracks) Ferrari is very strong.

FP1 FP2 FP3 went with a Ferrari on Top position, pole position is in 15 minutes, let's see what happens.

For sure it will be a fan GP to watch also tomorrow can rain again here in Italy, and if il will rain Verstappen will do an amazing comeback from last position (penalty)

[slocker]

Had to point this. Was this real that everybody blow up final lap except Leclerc and Sainz. They only made to start the lap. For all this time I cant remember when and if I saw this funny situation ever.


2019 FORMULA 1 ITALIAN GRAND PRIX - QUALIFYING RESULTS

POS   DRIVER   NAT   TEAM   Q1   Q2   Q3

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m20.126s   + 0.089s   1m19.307s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.146s   1m19.464s   + 0.039s
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.030s   + 0.554s   + 0.047s
4   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.252s   + 0.251s   + 0.150s
5   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.248s   + 0.369s   + 0.532s
6   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.029s   + 0.811s   + 0.742s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.287s   + 0.738s   + 1.148s
8   Alexander Albon   THA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.256s   + 0.557s   no time
9   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.517s   + 1.034s   no time
10   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.508s   + 1.051s   no time
11   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.531s   + 1.053s   
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.490s   + 1.151s   
13   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.597s   + 1.166s   
14   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.520s   + 1.604s   
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.382s   + 1.661s   
16   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.658s       
17   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.165s       
18   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 1.674s       
19   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.230s       
20   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   no time

[Naida_BR]

Had to point this. Was this real that everybody blow up final lap except Leclerc and Sainz. They only made to start the lap. For all this time I cant remember when and if I saw this funny situation ever.


2019 FORMULA 1 ITALIAN GRAND PRIX - QUALIFYING RESULTS

POS   DRIVER   NAT   TEAM   Q1   Q2   Q3

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m20.126s   + 0.089s   1m19.307s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.146s   1m19.464s   + 0.039s
3   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.030s   + 0.554s   + 0.047s
4   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.252s   + 0.251s   + 0.150s
5   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.248s   + 0.369s   + 0.532s
6   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.029s   + 0.811s   + 0.742s
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.287s   + 0.738s   + 1.148s
8   Alexander Albon   THA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.256s   + 0.557s   no time
9   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.517s   + 1.034s   no time
10   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.508s   + 1.051s   no time
11   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.531s   + 1.053s   
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.490s   + 1.151s   
13   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.597s   + 1.166s   
14   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.520s   + 1.604s   
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.382s   + 1.661s   
16   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.658s       
17   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.165s       
18   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 1.674s       
19   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.230s       
20   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   no time

Incredible pole position from Leclerc.
Just 0.039 seconds ahead of Hamilton!
Tommorow's grand prix is going to be amazing. I think it is time for Mercedes to get back the first position.

[coinlocket$]

Not sure but every one of the top 10 are still under investigation for the unbelievable situation  .

The weather expected for tomorrow is rain till 2 hours before the race so they think it will be a dry race

[joniboini]

The weather expected for tomorrow is rain till 2 hours before the race so they think it will be a dry race

I don't remember the last time I watch a rainy F1 race. I really wish tomorrow is raining or at least the circuit is wet so it will be more interesting because it will be a flag-to-flag race.

And damn, can't wait for the next GP race.

[Naida_BR]

The weather expected for tomorrow is rain till 2 hours before the race so they think it will be a dry race

I don't remember the last time I watch a rainy F1 race. I really wish tomorrow is raining or at least the circuit is wet so it will be more interesting because it will be a flag-to-flag race.

And damn, can't wait for the next GP race.

I assume that you don't watch F1 consistently.
The German grand prix happened with rain and it was absolutely amazing.