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October 05, 2016, 03:06:02 PM |
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Hey WildShark, I mean WildShill, you gonna keep ignoring that screen shot question I had? I have to ask you here as on the IONtalk forum you whine like a little fucking baby and report posts you don't like, which are characteristics of ultra shills like yourself.
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October 05, 2016, 03:07:13 PM |
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So they didn't start fresh is what you are saying? I was under the understanding that ION has NOTHING to do with XPY? Seems that is not the case.
ION has nothing to do with XPY I was under the understanding that ION has NOTHING to do with XPY? Seems that is not the case.How so please elaborate That is what every ION person is saying but then you said the XPYbits image was a good promotion for ION. XPYbits transferred to Atoms which are in the Ionomy. How is ION not related to XPY? No what is a good AD for the company/people is how they handled the transition of Business model and direction, they could have so easily screwed people over but they didn't. This shows ION's commitment to it's investors more than I can say for most crypto startups. I dont consider repetitive failures to be good. So their past history is not a good advertisement!
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korvas128
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Yep, that's right, the cure for sharkspamming is more sharkspamming. Have you seen roadmap 1.0 (being a shark you must have)? Stop for a minute to enjoy the déjà vu. You've just posted a really good AD for Ionomy XPY.io roadmap nothing shameful here .... When the company changed direction how many people that owned XPYBits got screwed over..... the answer is ZERO Those that stayed now own ATOM,ION & Electrons. Those that left exited at a profit. How many companies in the crypto space treat their investors in a similar manner. Most companies either F**k off with the money, get hacked or go ahead and implement change not giving a shit about their current investors..... it would have been so easy for these guys to walk away and start afresh but they never Your last bit confused me..... what's with the Garza quote Funny you should mention implement change not giving a shit about their current investors because thats what the xpybits people did. Those investors invested to get what was advertised and didn't actually get that. They got a wait and then no delivery but a implemented change without giving a shit to the current investors. If they did care they would have considered the investors finished the product and gave the option for those not wanting the advertised product to transition. At a profit? There is no such thing as profit for everyone. Anything in investing is always neutral. Money in ALWAYS equals money out. For someone to profit someone has to make a loss. There is no such thing as profits for everyone. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit. I wouldn't call the posted above roadmap a good AD unless its actually implemented. Is something thats not out good AD? At that point in time it can be considered possibly... if later it never comes then was it an AD that was bad and promoted a scam? I get it you're invested you want it to succeed and you like it. I just find it amusing that you don't acknowledge any of the red flags.. you simply turn all red flags into orange ones with a green lining. To be balanced in your investment you need to actually give credit where they are and acknowledge them... to better your investment you should raise them to turn the red ones into green through action not ignorance. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit.People bought XPYBits for BTCWhen they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC. The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit. I'll try to simplify You go to store order and pay for something which is $100 When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different. You don't like it and ask for a refund You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like. You walk away richer by $30
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October 05, 2016, 03:25:06 PM |
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People bought XPYBits for BTC
When they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC.
The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit.
I'll try to simplify
You go to store order and pay for something which is $100
When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different.
You don't like it and ask for a refund
You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like.
You walk away richer by $30
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself where that money came from? Come to think of it, what is or was xpy.io/ionomy source of income for the last 18 months? (or however far back you wanna go and explore this subject)
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October 05, 2016, 03:41:51 PM |
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People bought XPYBits for BTC
When they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC.
The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit.
I'll try to simplify
You go to store order and pay for something which is $100
When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different.
You don't like it and ask for a refund
You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like.
You walk away richer by $30
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself where that money came from? Come to think of it, what is or was xpy.io/ionomy source of income for the last 18 months? (or however far back you wanna go and explore this subject) For ATOM's they were sold on an exchange so the money came from other people bidding.
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October 05, 2016, 04:14:57 PM |
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People bought XPYBits for BTC
When they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC.
The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit.
I'll try to simplify
You go to store order and pay for something which is $100
When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different.
You don't like it and ask for a refund
You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like.
You walk away richer by $30
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself where that money came from? Come to think of it, what is or was xpy.io/ionomy source of income for the last 18 months? (or however far back you wanna go and explore this subject) For ATOM's they were sold on an exchange so the money came from other people bidding. So it's not really the store offering a refund, is it? And it's not actually an "exchange" but an "auction" with a minimum price (floor LOL). Any guesses as to what the price of atoms would be if the market was a real market? You still haven't addressed the income source, added value, whatever you wanna call it. Could it be that you're avoiding this subject due to said "value" being zero so far?
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WildShark
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October 05, 2016, 05:03:20 PM |
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Hey Franz just to let you know that I've started to alpha test Gravity Crypto Gravity, you know that game you called vaporware.
Good for you. I will still call it vaporware until the game is released publicly for both Android and iOS, as it was announced. @CryptoBuds All will be revealed in time. For more information visit the Crypto Gravity Status Report thread @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/crypto-gravity-status-report/194/38Crypto Gravity Alpha has begun. Greetings ionomy, We are pleased to announce the release of the Crypto Gravity Alpha. This marks the first step towards the wider release of the first ionomy produced game and represents a very important step toward the greater realization of the ionomy as a whole. The initial test group of the Alpha will limited to the Whales and internal testers. We expect the Alpha period to last a minimum of 1 week, a wider beta that will include all ionomy users will follow. The full release will occur after the close of the beta. The minimum beta period is expected to be 2 weeks. We look forward to getting the first round of feedback and bug reports, and will be sharing more information about the beta as we get closer. Please keep in mind that these times are estimates, as this is an early alpha it is difficult to project potential bugs or issues we may find that could extend our testing periods or delay the wider beta release. As always if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at support@ionomy.com or by joining us on slack at slack.ionomy.com. Thank you, -The ionomy team
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October 05, 2016, 08:06:14 PM |
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ION has nothing to do with XPY
Not only does ION have historical ties to XPY. In many ways its even worse then Paycoin. Josh Garza at least distanced himself from premining. ION on the other hand is 100% premined, thus making it worse garbage than XPY ever was.
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October 05, 2016, 08:27:59 PM |
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People bought XPYBits for BTC
When they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC.
The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit.
I'll try to simplify
You go to store order and pay for something which is $100
When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different.
You don't like it and ask for a refund
You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like.
You walk away richer by $30
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself where that money came from? Come to think of it, what is or was xpy.io/ionomy source of income for the last 18 months? (or however far back you wanna go and explore this subject) For ATOM's they were sold on an exchange so the money came from other people bidding. So it's not really the store offering a refund, is it? And it's not actually an "exchange" but an "auction" with a minimum price (floor LOL). Any guesses as to what the price of atoms would be if the market was a real market? You still haven't addressed the income source, added value, whatever you wanna call it. Could it be that you're avoiding this subject due to said "value" being zero so far? No obviously not a store... Proft = ATOM Price - XPYBits price People that didn't like the direction change with XPY.io could have sold their Atoms for BTC on Day 1 and made a tidy profit....... this was my point Those that didn't sell bought into the company hence the reason that of the 100k created only 100 are currently available on the auction Income source for the past 18 months... you can ask that one it's the kind of question that is so easy for a company to bullshit that the answer is meaningless plus in crypto who shares that kind of information... I don't know of any company that does
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October 05, 2016, 09:06:33 PM |
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Income source for the past 18 months... you can ask that one it's the kind of question that is so easy for a company to bullshit that the answer is meaningless plus in crypto who shares that kind of information... I don't know of any company that does Most legit companies do, crypto or no crypto. And you can only bullshit it so far. For example if they said "ionomy exchange fees" and quoted a figure far exceeding the trading volume - that's bullshit. If they said "in-game advertising" and the game doesn't exist yet - that's bullshit. If they said "mining" and didn't show mined blocks - that's bullshit. If you refuse to even consider any question that could potentially have a bullshit answer then you're deliberately missing pretty much any kind of warning signs. Not that it's any news but still highly amusing to see you use the "in crypto" excuse over and over and over. What does it even mean? Common sense should be turned off? Because crypto?
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October 05, 2016, 10:04:06 PM |
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Yep, that's right, the cure for sharkspamming is more sharkspamming. Have you seen roadmap 1.0 (being a shark you must have)? Stop for a minute to enjoy the déjà vu. You've just posted a really good AD for Ionomy XPY.io roadmap nothing shameful here .... When the company changed direction how many people that owned XPYBits got screwed over..... the answer is ZERO Those that stayed now own ATOM,ION & Electrons. Those that left exited at a profit. How many companies in the crypto space treat their investors in a similar manner. Most companies either F**k off with the money, get hacked or go ahead and implement change not giving a shit about their current investors..... it would have been so easy for these guys to walk away and start afresh but they never Your last bit confused me..... what's with the Garza quote Funny you should mention implement change not giving a shit about their current investors because thats what the xpybits people did. Those investors invested to get what was advertised and didn't actually get that. They got a wait and then no delivery but a implemented change without giving a shit to the current investors. If they did care they would have considered the investors finished the product and gave the option for those not wanting the advertised product to transition. At a profit? There is no such thing as profit for everyone. Anything in investing is always neutral. Money in ALWAYS equals money out. For someone to profit someone has to make a loss. There is no such thing as profits for everyone. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit. I wouldn't call the posted above roadmap a good AD unless its actually implemented. Is something thats not out good AD? At that point in time it can be considered possibly... if later it never comes then was it an AD that was bad and promoted a scam? I get it you're invested you want it to succeed and you like it. I just find it amusing that you don't acknowledge any of the red flags.. you simply turn all red flags into orange ones with a green lining. To be balanced in your investment you need to actually give credit where they are and acknowledge them... to better your investment you should raise them to turn the red ones into green through action not ignorance. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit.People bought XPYBits for BTCWhen they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC. The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit. I'll try to simplify You go to store order and pay for something which is $100 When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different. You don't like it and ask for a refund You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like. You walk away richer by $30 What was the initial cost of XPYbits in USD? What was the initial Atom value at ION launch when Atoms could be sold?
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October 05, 2016, 10:06:29 PM |
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Hey Franz just to let you know that I've started to alpha test Gravity Crypto Gravity, you know that game you called vaporware.
Good for you. I will still call it vaporware until the game is released publicly for both Android and iOS, as it was announced. @CryptoBuds All will be revealed in time. For more information visit the Crypto Gravity Status Report thread @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/crypto-gravity-status-report/194/38Crypto Gravity Alpha has begun. Greetings ionomy, We are pleased to announce the release of the Crypto Gravity Alpha. This marks the first step towards the wider release of the first ionomy produced game and represents a very important step toward the greater realization of the ionomy as a whole. The initial test group of the Alpha will limited to the Whales and internal testers. We expect the Alpha period to last a minimum of 1 week, a wider beta that will include all ionomy users will follow. The full release will occur after the close of the beta. The minimum beta period is expected to be 2 weeks. We look forward to getting the first round of feedback and bug reports, and will be sharing more information about the beta as we get closer. Please keep in mind that these times are estimates, as this is an early alpha it is difficult to project potential bugs or issues we may find that could extend our testing periods or delay the wider beta release. As always if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at support@ionomy.com or by joining us on slack at slack.ionomy.com. Thank you, -The ionomy team You are a worthless fucking shill. You provide no value and refuse to answer questions. The face of Ionomy is the second biggest crypto shill out there. Answer the question and I'll recant my statement.
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October 05, 2016, 10:48:02 PM Last edit: October 05, 2016, 11:52:20 PM by WildShark |
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Hey Franz just to let you know that I've started to alpha test Gravity Crypto Gravity, you know that game you called vaporware.
Good for you. I will still call it vaporware until the game is released publicly for both Android and iOS, as it was announced. @CryptoBuds All will be revealed in time. For more information visit the Crypto Gravity Status Report thread @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/crypto-gravity-status-report/194/38Crypto Gravity Alpha has begun. Greetings ionomy, We are pleased to announce the release of the Crypto Gravity Alpha. This marks the first step towards the wider release of the first ionomy produced game and represents a very important step toward the greater realization of the ionomy as a whole. The initial test group of the Alpha will limited to the Whales and internal testers. We expect the Alpha period to last a minimum of 1 week, a wider beta that will include all ionomy users will follow. The full release will occur after the close of the beta. The minimum beta period is expected to be 2 weeks. We look forward to getting the first round of feedback and bug reports, and will be sharing more information about the beta as we get closer. Please keep in mind that these times are estimates, as this is an early alpha it is difficult to project potential bugs or issues we may find that could extend our testing periods or delay the wider beta release. As always if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at support@ionomy.com or by joining us on slack at slack.ionomy.com. Thank you, -The ionomy team You provide no value and refuse to answer questions. You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
@CryptoBuds About 100 pages back I offered to give you the answers if you bought me a good bottle of scotch. You will now have to wait till Crypto Gravity goes to BETA before I provide the answers...
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October 05, 2016, 10:54:42 PM |
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Those that didn't sell bought into the company hence the reason that of the 100k created only 100 are currently available on the auction
By the way, nobody is buying those as far as I can see... so perhaps the reason for the "only 100" is lack of demand? Occam's razor says that some poor schmuck keeps relisting, others just don't bother. Of course the uber-transparent ionomy site doesn't list atom trade history. Go figure.
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October 05, 2016, 11:52:52 PM Last edit: October 06, 2016, 12:26:06 AM by WildShark |
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Hey Franz just to let you know that I've started to alpha test Gravity Crypto Gravity, you know that game you called vaporware.
Good for you. I will still call it vaporware until the game is released publicly for both Android and iOS, as it was announced. @CryptoBuds All will be revealed in time. For more information visit the Crypto Gravity Status Report thread @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/crypto-gravity-status-report/194/38Crypto Gravity Alpha has begun. Greetings ionomy, We are pleased to announce the release of the Crypto Gravity Alpha. This marks the first step towards the wider release of the first ionomy produced game and represents a very important step toward the greater realization of the ionomy as a whole. The initial test group of the Alpha will limited to the Whales and internal testers. We expect the Alpha period to last a minimum of 1 week, a wider beta that will include all ionomy users will follow. The full release will occur after the close of the beta. The minimum beta period is expected to be 2 weeks. We look forward to getting the first round of feedback and bug reports, and will be sharing more information about the beta as we get closer. Please keep in mind that these times are estimates, as this is an early alpha it is difficult to project potential bugs or issues we may find that could extend our testing periods or delay the wider beta release. As always if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at support@ionomy.com or by joining us on slack at slack.ionomy.com. Thank you, -The ionomy team You provide no value and refuse to answer questions. You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
@CryptoBuds About 100 pages back I offered to give you the answers if you bought me a good bottle of scotch. You will now have to wait till Crypto Gravity goes to BETA before I provide the answers... The Ionomy Vision is an awesome plan and phase 2 will be rolling out to the public in a few weeks...For a detailed look at the Ionomy Vision @ https://ionomy.com/about/roadmapthe plan says crowd funding and API are part of phase 4, so according to their own plan the API shouldn't even be talked about at this stage Phase 4 is for the Developer API not to be confused with the Game API being released in Phase 2
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October 06, 2016, 12:31:37 AM Last edit: October 06, 2016, 08:44:45 AM by CryptoBuds |
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Hey Franz just to let you know that I've started to alpha test Gravity Crypto Gravity, you know that game you called vaporware.
Good for you. I will still call it vaporware until the game is released publicly for both Android and iOS, as it was announced. @CryptoBuds All will be revealed in time. For more information visit the Crypto Gravity Status Report thread @ https://www.iontalk.net/t/crypto-gravity-status-report/194/38Crypto Gravity Alpha has begun. Greetings ionomy, We are pleased to announce the release of the Crypto Gravity Alpha. This marks the first step towards the wider release of the first ionomy produced game and represents a very important step toward the greater realization of the ionomy as a whole. The initial test group of the Alpha will limited to the Whales and internal testers. We expect the Alpha period to last a minimum of 1 week, a wider beta that will include all ionomy users will follow. The full release will occur after the close of the beta. The minimum beta period is expected to be 2 weeks. We look forward to getting the first round of feedback and bug reports, and will be sharing more information about the beta as we get closer. Please keep in mind that these times are estimates, as this is an early alpha it is difficult to project potential bugs or issues we may find that could extend our testing periods or delay the wider beta release. As always if you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at support@ionomy.com or by joining us on slack at slack.ionomy.com. Thank you, -The ionomy team You provide no value and refuse to answer questions. You will get the details when U share the bottle of scotch or when the game is finally released. You get closer to the Ionomy vision when stated this is not a crypto project!!! The Ionomy vision started to make sense to me after Huey taking 2 hours to explain it to the Whales present at the last hangout.
Keep up the good discussion of Ideas and THINK OUT OF THE CRYPO BOX!!!
@CryptoBuds About 100 pages back I offered to give you the answers if you bought me a good bottle of scotch. You will now have to wait till Crypto Gravity goes to BETA before I provide the answers... It's ok WildShark, you don't have answers nor will you have more come the release of gravity beta. You're merely a pawn in the game for us to laugh at. And please explain why in the world I would buy you a bottle of scotch? I see you are the type of person who's favorite word is "greed" and a little narcissistic (ala Homero) that you want and need rewarded for every little thing you do. It's like watching the evolution of an entitled 6 year old.
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October 06, 2016, 10:45:23 AM |
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WildShark, what happened? You got banned from IONTalk...LOL! I'm starting to have more respect for the ION folks.
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October 06, 2016, 11:52:57 AM |
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Want to ask whether providing Bounty ??
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October 06, 2016, 01:09:28 PM |
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Income source for the past 18 months... you can ask that one it's the kind of question that is so easy for a company to bullshit that the answer is meaningless plus in crypto who shares that kind of information... I don't know of any company that does Most legit companies do, crypto or no crypto. And you can only bullshit it so far. For example if they said "ionomy exchange fees" and quoted a figure far exceeding the trading volume - that's bullshit. If they said "in-game advertising" and the game doesn't exist yet - that's bullshit. If they said "mining" and didn't show mined blocks - that's bullshit. If you refuse to even consider any question that could potentially have a bullshit answer then you're deliberately missing pretty much any kind of warning signs. Not that it's any news but still highly amusing to see you use the "in crypto" excuse over and over and over. What does it even mean? Common sense should be turned off? Because crypto? Name me one company in Crypto that provides the level of information your looking for that I can use as a benchmark If you refuse to even consider any question that could potentially have a bullshit answer then you're deliberately missing pretty much any kind of warning signs. Not that it's any news but still highly amusing to see you use the "in crypto" excuse over and over and over. What does it even mean? Common sense should be turned off? Because crypto?No, what it means is you can be bullshited to and I less likely My references to crypto aren't an excuse they are an acknowledgement of the environment something you choose to ignore That GIF of yourself at the bottom of your post.... I thought you were older
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October 06, 2016, 01:22:48 PM |
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Yep, that's right, the cure for sharkspamming is more sharkspamming. Have you seen roadmap 1.0 (being a shark you must have)? Stop for a minute to enjoy the déjà vu. You've just posted a really good AD for Ionomy XPY.io roadmap nothing shameful here .... When the company changed direction how many people that owned XPYBits got screwed over..... the answer is ZERO Those that stayed now own ATOM,ION & Electrons. Those that left exited at a profit. How many companies in the crypto space treat their investors in a similar manner. Most companies either F**k off with the money, get hacked or go ahead and implement change not giving a shit about their current investors..... it would have been so easy for these guys to walk away and start afresh but they never Your last bit confused me..... what's with the Garza quote Funny you should mention implement change not giving a shit about their current investors because thats what the xpybits people did. Those investors invested to get what was advertised and didn't actually get that. They got a wait and then no delivery but a implemented change without giving a shit to the current investors. If they did care they would have considered the investors finished the product and gave the option for those not wanting the advertised product to transition. At a profit? There is no such thing as profit for everyone. Anything in investing is always neutral. Money in ALWAYS equals money out. For someone to profit someone has to make a loss. There is no such thing as profits for everyone. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit. I wouldn't call the posted above roadmap a good AD unless its actually implemented. Is something thats not out good AD? At that point in time it can be considered possibly... if later it never comes then was it an AD that was bad and promoted a scam? I get it you're invested you want it to succeed and you like it. I just find it amusing that you don't acknowledge any of the red flags.. you simply turn all red flags into orange ones with a green lining. To be balanced in your investment you need to actually give credit where they are and acknowledge them... to better your investment you should raise them to turn the red ones into green through action not ignorance. Explain how those that left exited with a profit? A profit in extra xpy? Its only a realised profit when its actual sold to evaluate. When its not sold its a potential loss or profit.People bought XPYBits for BTCWhen they were converted to ATOM if you wanted to sell you could have sold your ATOMs for BTC. The difference between your XPYbits buy price vs ATOM sell price is profit. I'll try to simplify You go to store order and pay for something which is $100 When you go to the store to pick it up the store offers you something which they say is better but completely different. You don't like it and ask for a refund You get $130 back because the price is based on the new thing you didn't like. You walk away richer by $30 What was the initial cost of XPYbits in USD? What was the initial Atom value at ION launch when Atoms could be sold? Forget USD it was all BTC......... Not sharing my data sorry
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