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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1157292 times)
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January 18, 2018, 05:15:53 PM
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If the textcoin link has been published before the underlying payment is confirmed at the textcoin Server you get the "doesn't exist" message. Probably it would be best practice not to publish a textcoin before its stable/confirmed.

A textcoin can only be claimed once so if someone was faster you do get the second message. Want a privat textcoin just for you to test it? Send me a PM.

@wekkel: have you figured out yet what a single adress wallet is? If you generate a new Wallet "single address" is a recently added very userfriendly type. Just one address. No Change adress no complications. Makes sense for an voluntary identity verification.

@all have you seen this Info about comming distributions?
https://cryptocoin.news/icos/byteball-free-token-distribution-airdrops-and-the-textcoin-solution-for-mass-adoption-of-cryptocurrencies-5832/

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January 18, 2018, 06:43:59 PM
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Good news: the Byteball wallet at Cryptopia seems to have been upgraded to version 2.0 (currently still syncing). Hopefully this means withdrawals will be back online soon (in time for the planned 1 March airdrop).
Thanks for the heads up! I have far too many useful gbytes sitting there. I'll be honest though: I should thank cryptopia for such issues: if I would have sold those bytes I would have lost much value thanks to the last price recovery.
I don't even remember why I sent those bytes there in the first place!
I'll take this as a good sign and I will happily share 0.025 GBYTE with the first user who will quote me and answer the following question:
Is there a relationship between geometry and flowers? If so, please explain and give one example.
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January 18, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
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Good news: the Byteball wallet at Cryptopia seems to have been upgraded to version 2.0 (currently still syncing). Hopefully this means withdrawals will be back online soon (in time for the planned 1 March airdrop).
Thanks for the heads up! I have far too many useful gbytes sitting there. I'll be honest though: I should thank cryptopia for such issues: if I would have sold those bytes I would have lost much value thanks to the last price recovery.
I don't even remember why I sent those bytes there in the first place!
I'll take this as a good sign and I will happily share 0.025 GBYTE with the first user who will quote me and answer the following question:
Is there a relationship between geometry and flowers? If so, please explain and give one example.
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No, flowers are in relationship with bees (literally) Tongue They are luring bees with their shiny leafs. Bees get honey, flowers get their semens to other places.
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January 18, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
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Nope, sorry. That answer, even if it's a funny one, does not answer my question. Make another attempt if you wish but after that it will be game over my friend

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January 18, 2018, 07:03:32 PM
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Lol ok, there is relationship. In nature flowers leafs are usually in some geometric propositions. For example check proportion of daisy, which is pentagonal.
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January 18, 2018, 07:08:47 PM
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Good news: the Byteball wallet at Cryptopia seems to have been upgraded to version 2.0 (currently still syncing). Hopefully this means withdrawals will be back online soon (in time for the planned 1 March airdrop).
Thanks for the heads up! I have far too many useful gbytes sitting there. I'll be honest though: I should thank cryptopia for such issues: if I would have sold those bytes I would have lost much value thanks to the last price recovery.
I don't even remember why I sent those bytes there in the first place!
I'll take this as a good sign and I will happily share 0.025 GBYTE with the first user who will quote me and answer the following question:
Is there a relationship between geometry and flowers? If so, please explain and give one example.
Wink

Yes: fibonacci number sequence is the underlying geometric Ratio for flower Pedal distribution. Lots of
examples exist. Google "fibonacci sequence and flower pedals" or "golden Ratio Spiral and sunflower"

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January 18, 2018, 07:13:58 PM
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Ok you both win. Please send me a private message with your byteball address and as soon as cryptopia resumes withdrawals I'll tip you guys. Thanks for playing. Something to read ... https://www.florisbooks.co.uk/book/Keith-Critchlow/Hidden+Geometry+of+Flowers/9780863158063

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January 18, 2018, 07:23:00 PM
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... now don't screw it up.

I managed to finalise the procedure. PM your address so I can send 10MB back. Thanks.

I was already attested so I thought I'd make the 12MB back from the $20 (edit: $20, not 20MB) reward I'd get when you would get attested. But probably because I didn't send the 12MB to your single wallet address it doesn't register me as the referrer. Lesson learned!

So the bot just confirmed I do get $20 for referring someone, so it does register. How it works exactly will be explained by Tony maybe.

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January 18, 2018, 07:35:27 PM
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Are there any plans to get this on more exchanges?
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January 18, 2018, 08:01:23 PM
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... now don't screw it up.

I managed to finalise the procedure. PM your address so I can send 10MB back. Thanks.

I was already attested so I thought I'd make the 12MB back from the $20 (edit: $20, not 20MB) reward I'd get when you would get attested. But probably because I didn't send the 12MB to your single wallet address it doesn't register me as the referrer. Lesson learned!

So the bot just confirmed I do get $20 for referring someone, so it does register. How it works exactly will be explained by Tony maybe.

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1. Create a new Wallet of the Type: single address wallet
If you fail that step nothing will work.
2. Send about 8-10$ to that Wallet
3. Go Chat, Bot store and Talk to real Name attestation bot.
Follow its instructions. (That part I haven't done myself,
this instruction is based on Slack User Suirelav who reported the referal).
4. Let a friend repeat step 1.
5. You repeat step 2. And then send from your attested Wallet to his.
6. Your friend does step 3.
Profit

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January 18, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
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Finally, the new distribution rules https://medium.com/byteball/distribution-to-verified-users-and-referrals-ed00b9b2a30e

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January 18, 2018, 09:10:39 PM
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What stops my audience from just claiming the bytes I send them for verification to keep/sell. I can’t just trust every random internet users to completely expose their identity to something new to them

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January 18, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
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What stops my audience from just claiming the bytes I send them for verification to keep/sell. I can’t just trust every random internet users to completely expose their identity to something new to them

Absolutely! But! You can send them just 100,000 bytes each Wink
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January 18, 2018, 09:26:48 PM
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What stops my audience from just claiming the bytes I send them for verification to keep/sell. I can’t just trust every random internet users to completely expose their identity to something new to them

Good point. Will come up a lot. Saying it was the same with PayPal will likely not cut the mustard because Byteball is not connected to eBay just now.

Currently it comes down to: so you don't want 12$ for your identity at a trustworthy company but you are willing to give your identity to banks, Shopping Centers, Phone companies etc.?

If arguments like: And the 12$ may increase in value do not tickle you and you are ... Meh do not want ... Thats fine.
If ICO launched will happen on Byteball and some have this obligatory and infact you may use the money to own part of a company.... Heads might start to turn... Oh you mean I am given parts of companies (Titancoin to say the least) for my identity - I would answere how else could YOU actually own it any other way?

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January 18, 2018, 09:34:30 PM
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i guess most people in the Crypto World prefer to remain private and anonymous.
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January 18, 2018, 09:37:42 PM
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i guess most people in the Crypto World prefer to remain private and anonymous.

Sure, if you say so. Those people needn't participate  Roll Eyes
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January 18, 2018, 09:41:25 PM
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What stops my audience from just claiming the bytes I send them for verification to keep/sell. I can’t just trust every random internet users to completely expose their identity to something new to them

Nothing. It's either a "instadump" for $8 or get verified and get $12. Once you get verified, you want to refer your friends to get those extra $20 (for every person referred). It's just human behavior. Sure, there will be people that will dump $8, are they gonna affect the price or the network? No. Moreover, how many people will you send this to? It's not like you would lose hundreds or thousands. Even if half of your referrals convert, you get your money back and then some more.

No system or distribution method is fool-proof.
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January 18, 2018, 09:47:19 PM
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i guess most people in the Crypto World prefer to remain private and anonymous.

From Slackjore who writes the Byteball Wiki:

The thing is you're only giving your details to ONE entity, Jumio. Other entities you give them the fact that you're attested, and whatever else is the minimum they need. It's a bit like PayPal has your credit card info, but when you buy something from a random company they don't get your cc info, just that PayPal attests you're ok. Jumio doesn't even know your Byteball address.

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January 18, 2018, 09:58:37 PM
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The problem right now for new users, even if they want to give away their identity, is to come by $8 in Byteball. There is simple no way for them to buy Byteball. Bittrex is closed for new registrations and from Cryptopia there is no way to withdraw Byteball.

This can work ONLY if a major Exchange comes by... otherwise the system will starve to death.
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January 18, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
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i guess most people in the Crypto World prefer to remain private and anonymous.

From Slackjore who writes the Byteball Wiki:

The thing is you're only giving your details to ONE entity, Jumio. Other entities you give them the fact that you're attested, and whatever else is the minimum they need. It's a bit like PayPal has your credit card info, but when you buy something from a random company they don't get your cc info, just that PayPal attests you're ok. Jumio doesn't even know your Byteball address.
This is Crypto world we don't want to hear the word PayPal here.
PayPal, Visa,Master card ...etc will probably become absolute in a decade or so,that's why visa is already started it's war against Crypto by cancelling all bitcoin visa cards
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