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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234095 times)
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January 31, 2017, 06:18:50 PM
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i tried to sell some Byteball with the internal chatbot and i set my units to "GB" and sent 3 GB, but the wallet sent in reality 3 bytes ist this a known bug?

Seems like if i send a transaction he is ignoring what account i set. It shows GB but it sends bytes.


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one more question. If i put a buy or sell order on, could i chancel it later? the bot documentation shows nothing.
this happened first time when I set GB instead of bytes. please, reset it GB again and restart your wallet. then you'll never face it again in future

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January 31, 2017, 06:23:10 PM
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January 31, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
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when will be 2nd distrubition? February 11?
Yes, at the hour of the full moon
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January 31, 2017, 06:34:09 PM
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helping me find a solution to link two wallets with two BTC accounts using the transition bot.

What is the exact problem you are facing? When you say two wallets, are they on the same device or on two different devices? Normally, on the same device, when you change wallets, your receiving address also changes. Did you try selecting a wallet, going to the chat, inserting your BB address and then your BTC address (and following instructions) and then doing the same on the other wallet? How did it go?

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January 31, 2017, 06:35:06 PM
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Price chart is looking beautiful for another breakout to > 0.08 soon!

The second distribution may disrupt the exchanges.
Difficult to predict the evolution of bytball during the next week
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January 31, 2017, 06:45:30 PM
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The distribution model encourages holding, month to month, so I expect to see the price steadily increase.
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January 31, 2017, 06:55:10 PM
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i tried to sell some Byteball with the internal chatbot and i set my units to "GB" and sent 3 GB, but the wallet sent in reality 3 bytes ist this a known bug?

Seems like if i send a transaction he is ignoring what account i set. It shows GB but it sends bytes.


2.

one more question. If i put a buy or sell order on, could i chancel it later? the bot documentation shows nothing.

Please upgrade to the latest wallet version 1.1.1!

I am on the latest version
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January 31, 2017, 07:30:38 PM
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If you installed the full wallet can you send a transaction before its synced?

With Bitcoin and most altcoin wallets you can send a transaction before they are fully synced provided the wallet shows it contains your coins. Is byteball the same?

Yes, you can (if the outputs you are going to spend are already in your copy of the DAG).

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January 31, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
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Id say the blackbytes + Tor support makes Byteball more secure and anonymous than even Monero or Zcash.

I hope noone will really believe the quoted words, or they may find themselves in serious troubles...
Now you are just trolling and spreading fear with only these three dots ... to back it up, because your own shit coin iota is worthless.

@tonych, do you support the claim of SatoNatomato the Expert?

Nope. Tony is too professional and most likely too busy to get involved via your baiting.
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January 31, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
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I think the need to add new trading site for ByteBall, at least it can help people who want to hold onto the bag for byteball

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January 31, 2017, 07:48:47 PM
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I think I won't wait for SatoNatomato's response, it will likely contain only nonsense. I'll explain my concern right away:

Byteball uses witnesses. There are 2 ways to choose the witnesses:

1. They are picked by every user for himself
2. They are elected via global voting

If it's #1 then it becomes possible that some users are almost isolated from each other because they have only few common witnesses. #2 leads to a more serious problem which arises if a user is faced with more than 2 options (just google why it's a serious problem, there should be many links with mathematical proofs on impossibility of coming to a satisfying consensus). The problem of picking an option has already striked twice in the cryptoindustry. First it was Ripple/Stellar consensus flaw drama when Stellar admitted to have a flawed consensus while Ripple decided to make appearance they were fine (heh, they had enough money not to care about community opinion). The second time which I remember it was Factom drama, now I can't find the links, but in few words: they "sold" a flawed voting mechanism which was unfixable because they allowed more than 2 options.

So my concern is that cryptocoin developers don't take voting seriosly. I noticed this several years ago in Bitshares. Back then I was thinking that voting is easy, only after working with two professors (on two separate tasks) who were specializing in voting I got that it's all actually not that simple...

Voting is not easy indeed, and there is no voting in Byteball consensus.  Instead, there is a requirement that witness lists of neighboring (and not just neighboring - see the white paper for details) units on the DAG are compatible.  Compatible means that they differ by no more than one mutation.  This is similar to biology where the genes of a parent and child are very similar but not the same, and the genes of any member of the same species are also similar but not identical.

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January 31, 2017, 07:58:57 PM
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Id say the blackbytes + Tor support makes Byteball more secure and anonymous than even Monero or Zcash.

I hope noone will really believe the quoted words, or they may find themselves in serious troubles...
Now you are just trolling and spreading fear with only these three dots ... to back it up, because your own shit coin iota is worthless.

@tonych, do you support the claim of SatoNatomato the Expert?

I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

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January 31, 2017, 08:06:55 PM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
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January 31, 2017, 08:51:26 PM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
Another appeal to authority argument.  Roll Eyes

I still stand by my words, regardless what tonych thinks, respectfully disagree.

Again no technical discussion from you.

Iota still has no decentralized consensus algorithm aside from centralized "milestones", cannot defend against Sybils/spamming, and does not work or even make sense on IoT devices due to the useless "Proof-of-Work".

You do have a high competence in trolling though, if you only applied that technically that would be great.
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January 31, 2017, 09:43:15 PM
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helping me find a solution to link two wallets with two BTC accounts using the transition bot.

What is the exact problem you are facing? When you say two wallets, are they on the same device or on two different devices? Normally, on the same device, when you change wallets, your receiving address also changes. Did you try selecting a wallet, going to the chat, inserting your BB address and then your BTC address (and following instructions) and then doing the same on the other wallet? How did it go?

Thanks a lot! Just entering the address of the new wallet worked to start the bot again.  (:

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February 01, 2017, 12:18:45 AM
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Quote from: CryptKeeper link=topic=1608859.msg17686855#msg17686855

Please upgrade to the latest wallet version 1.1.1!

Is it better to uninstall previous version, or can we just install over the top of old version?
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February 01, 2017, 12:44:55 AM
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Id say the blackbytes + Tor support makes Byteball more secure and anonymous than even Monero or Zcash.

I hope noone will really believe the quoted words, or they may find themselves in serious troubles...
Now you are just trolling and spreading fear with only these three dots ... to back it up, because your own shit coin iota is worthless.

@tonych, do you support the claim of SatoNatomato the Expert?

I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.
keep bring great ideas and make BB to be accepted and used all over the .net
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February 01, 2017, 12:48:03 AM
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Quote from: CryptKeeper link=topic=1608859.msg17686855#msg17686855

Please upgrade to the latest wallet version 1.1.1!

Is it better to uninstall previous version, or can we just install over the top of old version?
upgrade it , is working  fine ... if you will like to uninstall make a back up of all your BB folder.
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February 01, 2017, 02:42:03 AM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
Another appeal to authority argument.  Roll Eyes

I still stand by my words, regardless what tonych thinks, respectfully disagree.

Again no technical discussion from you.

Iota still has no decentralized consensus algorithm aside from centralized "milestones", cannot defend against Sybils/spamming, and does not work or even make sense on IoT devices due to the useless "Proof-of-Work".

You do have a high competence in trolling though, if you only applied that technically that would be great.

I agree with you. Let's not worry about other coins, after all this is where we should discuss byteball, not other coins. Let them troll in their own threads.

From usage point of view, what tony puts in is good enough on the security side.
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February 01, 2017, 03:03:06 AM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
Another appeal to authority argument.  Roll Eyes

I still stand by my words, regardless what tonych thinks, respectfully disagree.

Again no technical discussion from you.

Iota still has no decentralized consensus algorithm aside from centralized "milestones", cannot defend against Sybils/spamming, and does not work or even make sense on IoT devices due to the useless "Proof-of-Work".

You do have a high competence in trolling though, if you only applied that technically that would be great.

I think you need to start developing your own coin and show us what you got.
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