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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1169630 times)
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February 01, 2017, 12:48:03 AM
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Quote from: CryptKeeper link=topic=1608859.msg17686855#msg17686855

Please upgrade to the latest wallet version 1.1.1!

Is it better to uninstall previous version, or can we just install over the top of old version?
upgrade it , is working  fine ... if you will like to uninstall make a back up of all your BB folder.
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February 01, 2017, 02:42:03 AM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
Another appeal to authority argument.  Roll Eyes

I still stand by my words, regardless what tonych thinks, respectfully disagree.

Again no technical discussion from you.

Iota still has no decentralized consensus algorithm aside from centralized "milestones", cannot defend against Sybils/spamming, and does not work or even make sense on IoT devices due to the useless "Proof-of-Work".

You do have a high competence in trolling though, if you only applied that technically that would be great.

I agree with you. Let's not worry about other coins, after all this is where we should discuss byteball, not other coins. Let them troll in their own threads.

From usage point of view, what tony puts in is good enough on the security side.
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February 01, 2017, 03:03:06 AM
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I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

Thx, I'll use this together with other fuckups of SatoNatomato (which he will, of course, make in the future) to show the real level of his "competence".
Another appeal to authority argument.  Roll Eyes

I still stand by my words, regardless what tonych thinks, respectfully disagree.

Again no technical discussion from you.

Iota still has no decentralized consensus algorithm aside from centralized "milestones", cannot defend against Sybils/spamming, and does not work or even make sense on IoT devices due to the useless "Proof-of-Work".

You do have a high competence in trolling though, if you only applied that technically that would be great.

I think you need to start developing your own coin and show us what you got.
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February 01, 2017, 04:40:05 AM
Last edit: February 01, 2017, 05:47:44 AM by wpalczynski
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May i suggest moving the discussions to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0

Thanks.
I would gladly talk there.

But he just deletes my posts from that thread.

Then he comes in this thread and spreads FUD about anything I write, especially anything positive I write about Byteball, even when I answer other peoples questions - he counters with fear and vagueness, appeal to his authority or attempts to ridicule.

Should be banned from this thread really, he hasnt contributed anything constructive in the past 10 pages.

I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.

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February 01, 2017, 06:01:17 AM
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Id say the blackbytes + Tor support makes Byteball more secure and anonymous than even Monero or Zcash.

I hope noone will really believe the quoted words, or they may find themselves in serious troubles...
Now you are just trolling and spreading fear with only these three dots ... to back it up, because your own shit coin iota is worthless.

@tonych, do you support the claim of SatoNatomato the Expert?

I think the privacy features of all 3 coins are more or less the same for most practical purposes.   What differs, and what matters most for regular users, is usability.

people use bitcoin because bitcoin is stable. hope byteball is stable as the stone.
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February 01, 2017, 06:39:38 AM
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I just found a bug in the exchange bot. Dev team please, look into this issue. exchange bot can't recognize BTC address. Today I was going to sell at 0.06973 rate. but, the bot failed to recognize my BTC address :

Here is the chat history -

> sell at 0.069733

Selling at 0.069733 BTC/GB..
Please let me know your Bitcoin address.

19Gfy42KDdu65LWH3nGxMuALtoEvp44d9s

> This doesn't look like a valid Byteball address. Please use "Insert my address" button at the bottom of the screen, then hit "Send".

Screenshot here -

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February 01, 2017, 07:28:45 AM
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Sorry if this has already been asked but can't find it.
It is clear to me how to link BTC addresses for distribution rounds but what about Byteball addresses? Do I have to collect my newly acquired byteball into my linked addy or do they get funded automatically and I don't have do anything (except controlling the keys)?

Thanks

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February 01, 2017, 07:52:51 AM
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It is clear to me how to link BTC addresses for distribution rounds but what about Byteball addresses? Do I have to collect my newly acquired byteball into my linked addy or do they get funded automatically and I don't have do anything (except controlling the keys)?
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The distribution rules:

BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes
so from unlinked byte address you'll get new bytes only (not blackbytes).

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February 01, 2017, 08:46:15 AM
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I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.

Let me reveal my guess why you support SatoNatomato:

You are a trader who cares only about his profit. SatoNatomato spreads lies trying to make the price rise higher. This aligns with your intention to sell for higher profit. Once you sell you'll start hating SatoNatomato's dirty tactics because they won't align with your intention to buy cheaper.

Am I right?
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February 01, 2017, 09:06:29 AM
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I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.

Let me reveal my guess why you support SatoNatomato:

You are a trader who cares only about his profit. SatoNatomato spreads lies trying to make the price rise higher. This aligns with your intention to sell for higher profit. Once you sell you'll start hating SatoNatomato's dirty tactics because they won't align with your intention to buy cheaper.

Am I right?

There goes that passive aggressive trolling again. For the love of God, why are you even on this thread? OK, you got beef with SN but please fuck off and take it elsewhere. At least they can ban your from the slack channel if you decide to spread your insidious posts there.
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February 01, 2017, 09:13:44 AM
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There goes that passive aggressive trolling again. For the love of God, why are you even on this thread? OK, you got beef with SN but please fuck off and take it elsewhere. At least they can ban your from the slack channel if you decide to spread your insidious posts there.

For the last 5 years I've been seeing the same scenario again and again: A novel cryptoplatform appears, jackals (who call themselves "traders") come to its thread, they pump the price and dump into hands of newbies, the platform slowly dies. Oh, forgot to say, they claim to be "trolled".

Does this hint why I'm in this thread?
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February 01, 2017, 09:31:45 AM
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May i suggest moving the discussions to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0

Thanks.
I would gladly talk there.

But he just deletes my posts from that thread.

Then he comes in this thread and spreads FUD about anything I write, especially anything positive I write about Byteball, even when I answer other peoples questions - he counters with fear and vagueness, appeal to his authority or attempts to ridicule.

Should be banned from this thread really, he hasnt contributed anything constructive in the past 10 pages.

I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.
I hope so too, anyway Ive done my share of shielding up. Ill stop now.

BTW, have you seen my answer to your question,

What are the major flaws of IOTA?
1. Does not work on IoT devices. Proof-of-Work is CPU and battery expensive on such micro-controllers, but due to their low-power and constrained CPUs, the Proof-of-Work that IoT devices can do is orders of magnitude less than what a normal CPU can do, which makes the PoW even less worth. Due to this problem, the second one follows  

2. Has no Sybil prevention. IOTA mechanism of joining the network requires talking to humans to exchange IPs on their Slack-channel. The consensus algorithm is flawed.

3. Has infantile community leaders such as Come-from-Beyond, hostile, threatening and entitled "holier-than-you" attitude to newcomers. Also the Iota leaders have previously been involved in failed altcoin NXT.
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February 01, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
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What are the major flaws of IOTA?

1. Does not work on IoT devices. Proof-of-Work is CPU and battery expensive on such micro-controllers, but due to their low-power and constrained CPUs, the Proof-of-Work that IoT devices can do is orders of magnitude less than what a normal CPU can do, which makes the PoW even less worth. Due to this problem, the second one follows  

2. Has no Sybil prevention. IOTA mechanism of joining the network requires talking to humans to exchange IPs on their Slack-channel. The consensus algorithm is flawed.

3. Has infantile community leaders such as Come-from-Beyond, hostile, threatening and entitled "holier-than-you" attitude to newcomers. Also the Iota leaders have previously been involved in failed altcoin NXT.


Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

Greetz
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February 01, 2017, 09:39:14 AM
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Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

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Steve

Just post them in Iota thread.
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February 01, 2017, 09:48:27 AM
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Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

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Steve

Just post them in Iota thread.
I would really copy that, but fear that these legitimate questions will be deleted.

Greetz
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February 01, 2017, 10:22:41 AM
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I would really copy that, but fear that these legitimate questions will be deleted.

Greetz

Why would they be deleted? SatoNatomato's posts were deleted just because he was banned for trolling.
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February 01, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

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February 01, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

These are the same scammers from the early spectrecoin?
And why introducing this project here?
 
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February 01, 2017, 12:21:14 PM
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http://www.ewise.com/blog/building-intelligent-financial-services-chatbots-with-data-aggregatio

BB is on the right direction Smiley. chatbots FTW
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February 01, 2017, 01:54:19 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

Well that's the most math heavy white paper I've ever seen lol
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