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February 01, 2017, 09:06:29 AM
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I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.

Let me reveal my guess why you support SatoNatomato:

You are a trader who cares only about his profit. SatoNatomato spreads lies trying to make the price rise higher. This aligns with your intention to sell for higher profit. Once you sell you'll start hating SatoNatomato's dirty tactics because they won't align with your intention to buy cheaper.

Am I right?

There goes that passive aggressive trolling again. For the love of God, why are you even on this thread? OK, you got beef with SN but please fuck off and take it elsewhere. At least they can ban your from the slack channel if you decide to spread your insidious posts there.
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February 01, 2017, 09:13:44 AM
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There goes that passive aggressive trolling again. For the love of God, why are you even on this thread? OK, you got beef with SN but please fuck off and take it elsewhere. At least they can ban your from the slack channel if you decide to spread your insidious posts there.

For the last 5 years I've been seeing the same scenario again and again: A novel cryptoplatform appears, jackals (who call themselves "traders") come to its thread, they pump the price and dump into hands of newbies, the platform slowly dies. Oh, forgot to say, they claim to be "trolled".

Does this hint why I'm in this thread?
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February 01, 2017, 09:31:45 AM
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May i suggest moving the discussions to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0

Thanks.
I would gladly talk there.

But he just deletes my posts from that thread.

Then he comes in this thread and spreads FUD about anything I write, especially anything positive I write about Byteball, even when I answer other peoples questions - he counters with fear and vagueness, appeal to his authority or attempts to ridicule.

Should be banned from this thread really, he hasnt contributed anything constructive in the past 10 pages.

I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.
I hope so too, anyway Ive done my share of shielding up. Ill stop now.

BTW, have you seen my answer to your question,

What are the major flaws of IOTA?
1. Does not work on IoT devices. Proof-of-Work is CPU and battery expensive on such micro-controllers, but due to their low-power and constrained CPUs, the Proof-of-Work that IoT devices can do is orders of magnitude less than what a normal CPU can do, which makes the PoW even less worth. Due to this problem, the second one follows  

2. Has no Sybil prevention. IOTA mechanism of joining the network requires talking to humans to exchange IPs on their Slack-channel. The consensus algorithm is flawed.

3. Has infantile community leaders such as Come-from-Beyond, hostile, threatening and entitled "holier-than-you" attitude to newcomers. Also the Iota leaders have previously been involved in failed altcoin NXT.
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February 01, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
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What are the major flaws of IOTA?

1. Does not work on IoT devices. Proof-of-Work is CPU and battery expensive on such micro-controllers, but due to their low-power and constrained CPUs, the Proof-of-Work that IoT devices can do is orders of magnitude less than what a normal CPU can do, which makes the PoW even less worth. Due to this problem, the second one follows  

2. Has no Sybil prevention. IOTA mechanism of joining the network requires talking to humans to exchange IPs on their Slack-channel. The consensus algorithm is flawed.

3. Has infantile community leaders such as Come-from-Beyond, hostile, threatening and entitled "holier-than-you" attitude to newcomers. Also the Iota leaders have previously been involved in failed altcoin NXT.


Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

Greetz
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February 01, 2017, 09:39:14 AM
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Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

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Steve

Just post them in Iota thread.
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February 01, 2017, 09:48:27 AM
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Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

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Steve

Just post them in Iota thread.
I would really copy that, but fear that these legitimate questions will be deleted.

Greetz
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February 01, 2017, 10:22:41 AM
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I would really copy that, but fear that these legitimate questions will be deleted.

Greetz

Why would they be deleted? SatoNatomato's posts were deleted just because he was banned for trolling.
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February 01, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

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February 01, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

These are the same scammers from the early spectrecoin?
And why introducing this project here?
 
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February 01, 2017, 12:21:14 PM
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http://www.ewise.com/blog/building-intelligent-financial-services-chatbots-with-data-aggregatio

BB is on the right direction Smiley. chatbots FTW
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February 01, 2017, 01:54:19 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

Well that's the most math heavy white paper I've ever seen lol
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February 01, 2017, 03:14:58 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/
So, the DAG age is coming. Is there a thread for this project? I found a spectre coin thread, but they use an algorithm called Proof-of-Stake v3, and it seems the ico period has ended.
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February 01, 2017, 04:22:41 PM
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I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.

Let me reveal my guess why you support SatoNatomato:

You are a trader who cares only about his profit. SatoNatomato spreads lies trying to make the price rise higher. This aligns with your intention to sell for higher profit. Once you sell you'll start hating SatoNatomato's dirty tactics because they won't align with your intention to buy cheaper.

Am I right?

You revealed your precise intentions and motivation.  Thanks.

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February 01, 2017, 04:23:58 PM
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should i wait before the next exchange with a bot while the current exchange is pending (waiting for 2 confirmation for BTC transaction)?

thanks.

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February 01, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
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May i suggest moving the discussions to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.0

Thanks.
I would gladly talk there.

But he just deletes my posts from that thread.

Then he comes in this thread and spreads FUD about anything I write, especially anything positive I write about Byteball, even when I answer other peoples questions - he counters with fear and vagueness, appeal to his authority or attempts to ridicule.

Should be banned from this thread really, he hasnt contributed anything constructive in the past 10 pages.

I hope most people are familiar with his method of concerned or gentle trolling and see right through it.  It is cluttering up the thread though and should be moderated.
I hope so too, anyway Ive done my share of shielding up. Ill stop now.

BTW, have you seen my answer to your question,

What are the major flaws of IOTA?
1. Does not work on IoT devices. Proof-of-Work is CPU and battery expensive on such micro-controllers, but due to their low-power and constrained CPUs, the Proof-of-Work that IoT devices can do is orders of magnitude less than what a normal CPU can do, which makes the PoW even less worth. Due to this problem, the second one follows  

2. Has no Sybil prevention. IOTA mechanism of joining the network requires talking to humans to exchange IPs on their Slack-channel. The consensus algorithm is flawed.

3. Has infantile community leaders such as Come-from-Beyond, hostile, threatening and entitled "holier-than-you" attitude to newcomers. Also the Iota leaders have previously been involved in failed altcoin NXT.



Yeah, thanks for your answer.  Seems like IOTA is total garbage and not even worth looking at.  I would have never known if it wasnt for come from aboves gentle, concerned trolling.

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February 01, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
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Its a very interesting topic right now...wished, it could be explained in the IOTA thread!

Greetz
Steve

Just post them in Iota thread.
I would really copy that, but fear that these legitimate questions will be deleted.

Greetz

That is your first warning sign, never consider investing in crypto projects which launch with self moderated thread.  Underwater bag holding is a strong motivation for people to censor any criticism.

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February 01, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
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Is Cryptox being extremely slow for anyone else today? Under DDoS?
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February 01, 2017, 04:51:45 PM
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An interesting project:

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SPECTRE, described as a “fast and scalable distributed ledger protocol,” could be the solution to some of Bitcoin's woes. Utilizing a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) similar to ByteBall, SPECTRE, an acronym for “Serialization of Proof-of-work Events: Confirming Transactions via Recursive Elections,” claims to increase the throughput of the network, confirmation times, and be as resilient, if not more so, against 50 percent attacks.

https://btcmanager.com/news/tech/spectre-protocol-dag-structure-to-solve-scalability/

This is cool, more and more projects are beginning to explore DAG. 

First, IOTA, then Byteball, and now SPECTRE

Maybe DAG is the bitcoin 2.0 everyone has been talking about Smiley

Here's a post by the creator on medium
https://medium.com/@avivzohar/the-spectre-protocol-7dbbebb707b5#.3rchfup5z

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February 01, 2017, 05:02:55 PM
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Is Cryptox being extremely slow for anyone else today? Under DDoS?

It would be so nice to get on another exchange.  First for liquidity, some people will not touch tiny, obscure exchanges and secondly price checker apps dont include obscure exchanges either so its not possible to set up any alerts on ByteBalls price.

Is there anything stopping BB from getting on Bittrex?  I believe their requirements are very easy to meet.

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February 01, 2017, 05:19:01 PM
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Is Cryptox being extremely slow for anyone else today? Under DDoS?

yeah, seems its almost down
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