Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[btw50]

In the second round, we'll distribute as much as is linked and calculated by the above rules, the exact % is not known in advance.

could it be 10% at second round ?

No

1. BTC -> Byte 
=> estimated ~100000 BTC linked (at 2. round) => 6250 GByte distributed

2. Byte -> Byte
=>  100000 GBytes (10% from the first round) => 10000 GBytes  distributed

3. Total
Total: 16250 GBytes distributed at 2. round => 16250/1000000 = 1,6 %

4. Total distributed 1. + 2. round
11.6 % or 100000 (1. round) + 16250 (2. round) = 116250 Gbytes

thanks

[escapefrom3dom]

In the second round, we'll distribute as much as is linked and calculated by the above rules, the exact % is not known in advance.

could it be 10% at second round ?

No

1. BTC -> Byte  
=> estimated ~100000 BTC linked (at 2. round) => 6250 GByte distributed

2. Byte -> Byte
=>  100000 GBytes (10% from the first round) => 10000 GBytes  distributed

3. Total
Total: 16250 GBytes distributed at 2. round => 16250/1000000 = 1,6 %

4. Total distributed 1. + 2. round
11.6 % or 100000 (1. round) + 16250 (2. round) = 116250 Gbytes

thanks

if i got it right there is current total supply of 100 000 Gb.

how come it turns into ammount (116 250 Gb) that exceed this given (100 000 Gb) maximum?

am i rigth that at some moment (when will it come?) total supply will rise to 1 000 000 Gb (10^15 bytes).

[megashira1]

Large buywall at 0.08 liftoff time!

[bcmine]

Large buywall at 0.08 liftoff time!

didnt need polo to reach 10 Mill.

[vlom]

an other connection. this one if funny a tiny picture.

i.ytimg.com

wants to connect to i.ytimg.com on TCP port 443 (https)

   IP Address   172.217.22.174
   Reverse DNS Name   arn09s11-in-f14.1e100.net
   Established by   /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
   Process ID   3668

something googelish according the IP

i will no stop reporting. because i think it is clear that nwjs thing is the reason. dev will know what to do.

Thanks for reporting.  As other people said here and in a few github issues, it is some (supposedly dead) code in nwjs making connections to google properties.  These connections will be blocked in the next release.  If you want to block them now, edit your package.json by adding this proxy setting:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/commit/dfdd00808e3ac8f3268e7e346c2009bb403260f5

The location of package.json on Mac is /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/package.json.

Vlom, great finding! 

We need more people like you to test the software. Even with careful developing, such privacy leaks can creep in. Better to eliminate leaks and bugs right from the start!

You have earned a bounty of 1 GB for finding this leak, thank you!

Please post your address here or PM me if you don't want to make it public, thanks.

@CryptKeeper
thank you very much.

you can send me the bytes to this address: 62VPG77DWEHUIDCWJG7BLZFRDUKDI22U

[vlom]

here a summery about the connections of the OSX Wallet.

a part of the OSX app (nwjs) connects to several addresses. dev will fix this and a workaround is already posted.

here the connections i found:

wants to connect to redirector.gvt1.com on TCP port 443 (https)

   IP Address   172.217.22.174
   Reverse DNS Name   arn09s11-in-f174.1e100.net

wants to connect to i.ytimg.com on TCP port 443 (https)

   IP Address   172.217.22.174
   Reverse DNS Name   arn09s11-in-f14.1e100.net
   Established by   /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/MacOS/nwjs
   Process ID   3668

SatoNatomato helps with this:

Seems to be nwjs, the component used by Byteball. Maybe it means NodeWebKit.js and is the browser-bundled up.

Google is known for adding a bunch of shit in every source-code they touch to "resolve" something on their servers. This could be information leakage, especially when using it over Tor - who knows what it sends to Google even if it is the hostname and datetime its too much.

@tonych, maybe see if there is a default option which has to be turned off when importing/using nwjs?

edit: https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js/issues/5343 just one issue, expect 100 more "accidents" by google. edit2: if using the chromiu-args proxy workaround, make it something else than 127.0.0.1, like 127.6.6.6 to avoid more other problems.

tonych will fix it:

Thanks for reporting.  As other people said here and in a few github issues, it is some (supposedly dead) code in nwjs making connections to google properties.  These connections will be blocked in the next release.  If you want to block them now, edit your package.json by adding this proxy setting:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/commit/dfdd00808e3ac8f3268e7e346c2009bb403260f5

The location of package.json on Mac is /Applications/Byteball.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/package.json.

[tonych]

I got a really, really stupid question regarding the 12 witnesses:

Are we necessarily talking about one individual per witness? Or could there be the possibility of "witness pools", as in a group of people cooperating to "form" a single witness? If yes, I can see this as a community approach to decide whether or not they think 12 individuals suffice.

Just a thought.

It is possible that there is a group behind a witness.

[kaicrypzen]

if i got it right there is current total supply of 100 000 Gb.

how come it turns into ammount (116 250 Gb) that exceed this given (100 000 Gb) maximum?

That's the number of bytes in circulation which is 10% of the total supply.

am i rigth that at some moment (when will it come?) total supply will rise to 1 000 000 Gb (10^15 bytes).

Each round gives away a little amount until the total supply is distributed. The when depends on the rules and on the linked BTC amount. For the time being expect a handful of years before all the bytes are distributed.

[escapefrom3dom]

if i got it right there is current total supply of 100 000 Gb.

how come it turns into ammount (116 250 Gb) that exceed this given (100 000 Gb) maximum?

That's the number of bytes in circulation which is 10% of the total supply.

am i rigth that at some moment (when will it come?) total supply will rise to 1 000 000 Gb (10^15 bytes).

Each round gives away a little amount until the total supply is distributed. The when depends on the rules and on the linked BTC amount. For the time being expect a handful of years before all the bytes are distributed.

good strategy cause such way of distribution prevents price dumping.

got it. thanks.

[zuqka]

Last month someone was kind enough to give a step by step for using the blockchain.info wallet to sync with the byteball issuance. Could someone again please outline the step by step?

Thanks

settings > address > find the address you want to sign a message > click "more options" in the side of the address > put your message

[tonych]

The moon is almost full, and a little more than 3 days left before the 2nd round.  Please don't forget to move your bitcoins and bytes to the linked addresses before the Full Moon.  Chat with the transition bot to check these addresses and their balances.

The rules of the 3rd round stay exactly the same as in the 2nd round.  The 3rd round is scheduled for the Full Moon of March.

[LitcoinCollector]

Hey Tonych,
I have recieved Byte from first round, but I have send it, they are not in this address anymore.
I don't want to send the Bytes back to this linked address, since it's been used to send a tx.
Or can addresses be reused in byteball?
Thanks

[kaicrypzen]

I don't want to send the Bytes back to this linked address, since it's been used to send a tx.
Or can addresses be reused in byteball?

Yes they can be reused. In your wallet you have the list of your addresses in wallet gear icon > wallet info > addresses, any of them is yours and is still usable. If one of them is linked and you don't want to link others then you can send bytes (back) to it.

[escorted]

Does cryptox return the bb distributed in the second round to the user?
or
Will they not return?

I think they must give back bb but cryptox admin does not tell anything

[LitcoinCollector]

I don't want to send the Bytes back to this linked address, since it's been used to send a tx.
Or can addresses be reused in byteball?

Yes they can be reused. In your wallet you have the list of your addresses in wallet gear icon > wallet info > addresses, any of them is yours and is still usable. If one of them is linked and you don't want to link others then you can send bytes (back) to it.

Thanks, how can I change the currently linked byteball address?

[lizidev]

Does cryptox return the bb distributed in the second round to the user?
or
Will they not return?

I think they must give back bb but cryptox admin does not tell anything

we  need  know  something

[yvv]

The moon is almost full, and a little more than 3 days left before the 2nd round.  Please don't forget to move your bitcoins and bytes to the linked addresses before the Full Moon.  Chat with the transition bot to check these addresses and their balances.

How can I link another pair of addresses? Transition bot tells me my linked bitcoin and byteball addresses, but does not seem to have an option to re-link.
 

[Stratosf43ric]

To backup on Linux:

tar -cvjf" ~/byteball.backup_$(date +%s).tar.bz2" ~/.config/byteball

or when your Byteball process/wallet is off, cp -varp ~/.config/byteball ~/byteball_backup_$(date +%s)

[/quote]

Sorry to bother again, but im still trying to find a way to backup on Linux. I cant find /byteball_backup_$(date +%s) even when wallet is off. The wallet says to copy all /.config/byteball for backup, but it is more than 400MB and i dont have time this week to learn how to make my virtual machine recognize usb to copy it all - I intended to send the backup via email to the host...

Why dont i see that backup file? What is the 12 word seed for when it looks like it cant recover your wallet?

[kaicrypzen]

I don't want to send the Bytes back to this linked address, since it's been used to send a tx.
Or can addresses be reused in byteball?

Yes they can be reused. In your wallet you have the list of your addresses in wallet gear icon > wallet info > addresses, any of them is yours and is still usable. If one of them is linked and you don't want to link others then you can send bytes (back) to it.

Thanks, how can I change the currently linked byteball address?

If you mean link a new byteball address, then you just have to type it in the chat with the bot (and type your btc address after that). If you mean to unlink, then that's not possible.

How can I link another pair of addresses? Transition bot tells me my linked bitcoin and byteball addresses, but does not seem to have an option to re-link.

Type them in the chat with the bot and it will react accordingly. For instance, type bb address, type btc address, type signed message, you are done.

[HI-TEC99]

Does cryptox return the bb distributed in the second round to the user?
or
Will they not return?

I think they must give back bb but cryptox admin does not tell anything

we  need  know  something

For the first distribution the cryptox admin said anyone with a BTC balance on cryptox at snapshot time gets the full 100% GBYTE from the snapshot. I assume those with GBYTE on cryptox also get their share of the second distribution. As cryptox doesn't have a black bytes market you could pm grzem and enquire if cryptox will pay its users the black bytes from the second distribution.

Cryptox.pl has started, all users get GBYTE according to their BTC balance at snapshot time in full 100%.
We've decided to pay in full, as there wasn't rush with BTC depos.
To get GBYTE, go to My account->BMCodes and click Use.