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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1236443 times)
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February 04, 2017, 01:35:02 AM
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Can anyone recommend a bitcoin wallet to send the micro transaction from. two of the wallets i use wont allow micro transactions and having a problem with blockchain.info
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February 04, 2017, 01:38:34 AM
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Can anyone recommend a bitcoin wallet to send the micro transaction from. two of the wallets i use wont allow micro transactions and having a problem with blockchain.info

use signing function in the core btc wallet instead micro transactions:

1. file → sign message
2. enter a btc address in the first field
3. enter the message u want to sign in the second field
4. press «sign message» → copy out the signature

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February 04, 2017, 01:43:27 AM
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Can anyone recommend a bitcoin wallet to send the micro transaction from. two of the wallets i use wont allow micro transactions and having a problem with blockchain.info

Electrum works fine
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February 04, 2017, 03:33:16 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?
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February 04, 2017, 03:42:55 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?

The 3 upfront indicates a "unusual" address: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pay_to_script_hash

That's probably how the transition bot recognizes possible exchange addresses.
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February 04, 2017, 03:52:01 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?

The 3 upfront indicates a "unusual" address: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pay_to_script_hash

That's probably how the transition bot recognizes possible exchange addresses.

so its fine then? I'll email that dude
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February 04, 2017, 03:56:03 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?

The 3 upfront indicates a "unusual" address: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pay_to_script_hash

That's probably how the transition bot recognizes possible exchange addresses.

so its fine then? I'll email that dude

I guess it's not linked, you should definitely contact tonych.
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February 04, 2017, 06:06:46 AM
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I have confirmed my byteball and bitcoin addresses they are on http://transition.byteball.org/ but it says my balance is zero when i have bitcoin in that address?   
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February 04, 2017, 06:58:34 AM
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Why... Look at that big fat red candle  Shocked Shocked

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February 04, 2017, 07:09:31 AM
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Byteball very slowly but is growing in price, it shows the interest of investors to this coin that is growing very, very good indicator for any token, it is slow growing, so I hope that the investment in this project will give a good profit
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February 04, 2017, 07:14:14 AM
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Why... Look at that big fat red candle  Shocked Shocked
a group or someone are trying now to market pump and dump. Do not buy at very higher price or do not sell at very lower price  Smiley
0.21 high and 0.052 low in the last 48 hours clearly shows the picture Smiley

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February 04, 2017, 07:51:17 AM
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I have confirmed my byteball and bitcoin addresses they are on http://transition.byteball.org/ but it says my balance is zero when i have bitcoin in that address?  

Also, remember that when you link by doing a micropayment, your funds are very likely to be transferred to a change address (which is under your control) and that you might have to send your funds back to your original linked address.

What does the block explorer say about your address? You surely have bitcoins in your wallet but not in the linked address (because they were transferred as change to another address in your wallet when you made the micropayment). You just need to send your funds to your linked address.
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February 04, 2017, 08:17:35 AM
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I have confirmed my byteball and bitcoin addresses they are on http://transition.byteball.org/ but it says my balance is zero when i have bitcoin in that address?  

Also, remember that when you link by doing a micropayment, your funds are very likely to be transferred to a change address (which is under your control) and that you might have to send your funds back to your original linked address.

What does the block explorer say about your address? You surely have bitcoins in your wallet but not in the linked address (because they were transferred as change to another address in your wallet when you made the micropayment). You just need to send your funds to your linked address.

Thank you for the reply, I changed method and tryed again. I setup an exodus wallet on my laptop and sent the micro transaction from that wallet which got confirmed and shows on your explorer correctly but stills says my balance is zero  
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February 04, 2017, 08:23:48 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?

I already replied you by email:

See here https://blockchain.info/address/3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D, there are too many outputs that’s why we detect it as an exchange (transactions sent from regular wallet usually have 2 outputs).  Please use a wallet where you control the private keys.

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February 04, 2017, 08:34:34 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2017, 10:26:45 AM by kaicrypzen
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I have confirmed my byteball and bitcoin addresses they are on http://transition.byteball.org/ but it says my balance is zero when i have bitcoin in that address?  

Also, remember that when you link by doing a micropayment, your funds are very likely to be transferred to a change address (which is under your control) and that you might have to send your funds back to your original linked address.

What does the block explorer say about your address? You surely have bitcoins in your wallet but not in the linked address (because they were transferred as change to another address in your wallet when you made the micropayment). You just need to send your funds to your linked address.

Thank you for the reply, I changed method and tryed again. I setup an exodus wallet on my laptop and sent the micro transaction from that wallet which got confirmed and shows on your explorer correctly but stills says my balance is zero  

You want to link btc_addr1 to bb_addr1 doing a micropayment. When you send the micropayment m to bot_btc_addr, here is what happens:

btc_addr1 -> bot_btc_addr : m
btc_addr1 -> btc_addr2 : total_balance - m

btc_addr2 is what is called you change address, when you do a transaction, the remaining funds go to a new address in your wallet (btc_addr2 in that case). The consequence is:

btc_addr1 is linked.
btc_addr1 balance is 0.
btc_addr2 balance is total_balance - m (let's say it's your balance).

Your next action, is to send your balance to btc_addr1. (There is no need to know what btc_addr2 is.)

Normally, the bot tells you this (to send your funds to the linked address). The bot tells you it's 0 because it is 0 (you can check the balance of your address in a Bitcoin block explorer like blockchain.info to be sure that the bot doesn't lie Smiley).


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February 04, 2017, 09:10:59 AM
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Normally, the bot tells you this (to send your funds to the linked address). The bot tells you it's 0 because it is 0 (you can check the balance of your address in a Bitcoin block explorer like blockchain.info to be sure that the bot doesn't lie Smiley).

This is always very very friendly of you (to explain the Basics / to get newbies in). I knew what his problem was, but I would have used a half-page to explain it. We will need your post many times. Smiley
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February 04, 2017, 09:20:53 AM
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Will there be a way to backup private assets via a seed in the future?

I love paper wallets and it's a shame I can't make one for Blackbytes!

Impossible by design.  Too much information to fit on piece of paper.

How much data are we talking about?

If you can store the right amount of data on a blockchain/DAG, you can store an encrypted backup there. Then, all you'd need would be
a) the passphrase/seed to decrypt the data
b) some means to find the relevant data on the blockchain/DAG.

You wouldn't need a dedicated function for it, you could do it on your own. You could store it on some other blockchain as well, if you'd want to.

Obviously, you'd have to pay for the transaction when storing data, so this would probably be only suitable for long term holding.

It's megabytes, and you'll have to re-encrypt and store the data again every time it changes.
I'm afraid it would be too expensive to store your personal data in Byteball.  Byteball was designed to store data of social value: data that matters for all members of the ecosystem who transfer money-like assets to each other and need the database to track their origins and verify their validity.  When you are not using these features and only using plain storage, you are overpaying.

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February 04, 2017, 09:41:10 AM
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Can anyone recommend a bitcoin wallet to send the micro transaction from. two of the wallets i use wont allow micro transactions and having a problem with blockchain.info

use signing function in the core btc wallet instead micro transactions:

1. file → sign message
2. enter a btc address in the first field
3. enter the message u want to sign in the second field
4. press «sign message» → copy out the signature

The same game if you use Mycelium for Android
1. Go to Accounts → Select the Account in which there is your BTC address
2. Click on the menu → Sign Message
3. enter your PIN code → Select Key for Signing
4. enter the message you want to sign
5. press Sign Message → copy out the signature

Simple and clean Wink
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February 04, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
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Sent my transaction from my bitgo wallet and received this message from Transaction bot

I received 0.0015 BTC from 3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D but this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange, which is not allowed. Please send BTC only from a wallet that you own private keys for. If you think it was a mistake, please contact tonych@byteball.org

why do they think its an exchange?

The 3 upfront indicates a "unusual" address: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Pay_to_script_hash

That's probably how the transition bot recognizes possible exchange addresses.

The 3 in the front is not the cause (but an indicator). I used a multisig / multidevice wallet (2 of 3 for security and backup) based on elektrum.
Every multisig BTC adress has a 3 in front – no problem.
Before I've tried electrums 2fa. http://Http://docs.electrum.org/en/latest/2fa.html
2fa at elektrum is also a 2 of 3 multisig implementation, but there is a second party: The remote server in question is a service offered by TrustedCoin.
So I got the same error message:
“.. this transaction looks like it was sent from an exchange..“ (Because TrustedCoin was in as a cosigner.)

Tony has just described the cause:
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I already replied you by email:

See here https://blockchain.info/address/3QcomrVZo8T7XARRVYziJg3B8BqkzcZs2D, there are too many outputs that’s why we detect it as an exchange (transactions sent from regular wallet usually have 2 outputs).  Please use a wallet where you control the private keys.
There is, however, another limitation with Multisig: You can only link to BB by micrpayment => TX (you can check that here http://transition.byteball.org/ ).

Last week I received my “ledger nano s” – this is a really nice baby (There is a tutorial in the forum how to link ).
I would be incredibly happy if there was something similar later for byteball. Cool
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February 04, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
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Will there be a way to backup private assets via a seed in the future?

I love paper wallets and it's a shame I can't make one for Blackbytes!

Impossible by design.  Too much information to fit on piece of paper.

How much data are we talking about?

If you can store the right amount of data on a blockchain/DAG, you can store an encrypted backup there. Then, all you'd need would be
a) the passphrase/seed to decrypt the data
b) some means to find the relevant data on the blockchain/DAG.

You wouldn't need a dedicated function for it, you could do it on your own. You could store it on some other blockchain as well, if you'd want to.

Obviously, you'd have to pay for the transaction when storing data, so this would probably be only suitable for long term holding.

It's megabytes, and you'll have to re-encrypt and store the data again every time it changes.
I'm afraid it would be too expensive to store your personal data in Byteball.  Byteball was designed to store data of social value: data that matters for all members of the ecosystem who transfer money-like assets to each other and need the database to track their origins and verify their validity.  When you are not using these features and only using plain storage, you are overpaying.


Yeah, that's too much. Well, you could still use a storage coin or IPFS to store a backup.
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