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November 18, 2013, 08:05:22 PM
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Guess we shall see Mota...because I'm on an agressive re-investment strategy....

For folks who made plenty of coin beyond initial cost during the first round (which I think you were one of the few in that category), it makes sense to reinvest and get more equipment, because you're further ahead of the curve than others. That's if memory serves me correctly.

Still, it's not going to last as long as some folks hope; I think this is one of the few times you and I have differing opinions.

We have to remember, the difficulty hop coming in the next 60 days isn't going to be trite, choking out a lot of mining efforts.

Still, I'm cheering everyone on.. you as well. Mining is super fun.

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November 18, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
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Is anyone seeing movement on their UPS or is it just a label?

I have. They've been and gone.

With boards...

Yup.

Export SCAN has been done on our package...

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Guess we shall see Mota...because I'm on an agressive re-investment strategy....

For folks who made plenty of coin beyond initial cost during the first round (which I think you were one of the few in that category), it makes sense to reinvest and get more equipment, because you're further ahead of the curve than others. That's if memory serves me correctly.

Still, it's not going to last as long as some folks hope; I think this is one of the few times you and I have differing opinions.

We have to remember, the difficulty hop coming in the next 60 days isn't going to be trite, choking out a lot of mining efforts.

Still, I'm cheering everyone on.. you as well. Mining is super fun.
Let's see which strategy comes out on top......
While you are waiting for "Off the shelf" ASIC products, or investing fiat for BTC, I'll be accumulating hashpower as it becomes orderable...... all with my original investment.
Let's compare then 6 months, or a year from now....   Grin Grin Grin


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November 18, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
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According to the Winklevoss twins...BTC is worth 100x it's current value in 2 years....
That's 50 grand a BTC.....  Who knows how high it will go!.... We are in the INFANCY of BTC still!  Best days are yet to come, seriously.
about 75% of America has yet to even hear of bitcoin for the first time...

Because the Winklevoss twins are the GO-TO adress regarding market cap values for a given time period.  Roll Eyes Maybe their let's see into the future device is better than mine...
Wile it is true what you say, what has that to do with overpricing in mining hardware?

Would you buy mining rights for a goldmine with an estimated value of 20 million for 30 million "because gold is still in it's infancy and the price could (insert multiplier here)"?

You would most certainly not. And so mining hardware which gives such a !!!good ROI!!! because !!!price for btc rises since it's in it's infancy!!! is overpriced when the estimated amount of btc you can get back is lower than the amount you could have bought/you used to buy the equipment for.

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November 18, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
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While you are waiting for "Off the shelf" ASIC products, or investing fiat for BTC, I'll be accumulating hashpower as it becomes orderable...... all with my original investment.
Let's compare then 6 months, or a year from now....   Grin Grin Grin

I'm not waiting for off the shelf products, I just say it's the best method. Off the shelf already exists.. obtain mining equipment from burned out people for far less than retail. It's working fine for me. I may even have a Jupiter soon for half what you paid, delivered at the same time. There are companies who are working on off-the-shelf methods as we speak, and they will leave the others in the dust once they take off.

Yes, if you stay ahead of the average curve you'll do well, but I'm still ahead of you "based on the numbers". By the time you positive-ROI with your 17BTC, I'm already ahead of you (x)BTC * Days.

You have to also understand, I'm spread across holding, trading, selling equipment, mining, etc. We both have our methods. I'm not saying mine is better or I'll be richer.

I'm just saying, you'd be ahead of the curve by default having reinvested the BTC, because the difficulty will reach a loss situation. You'll see 200..300GH going for a couple hundred bucks in just a few months, because Jupiters will be the new Block Erupters.

Unless you plan on living entirely on BTC, in which case you're set for the most part.

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November 18, 2013, 08:22:48 PM
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Guess we shall see Mota...because I'm on an agressive re-investment strategy....

For folks who made plenty of coin beyond initial cost during the first round (which I think you were one of the few in that category), it makes sense to reinvest and get more equipment, because you're further ahead of the curve than others. That's if memory serves me correctly.

Still, it's not going to last as long as some folks hope; I think this is one of the few times you and I have differing opinions.

We have to remember, the difficulty hop coming in the next 60 days isn't going to be trite, choking out a lot of mining efforts.

Still, I'm cheering everyone on.. you as well. Mining is super fun.
Let's see which strategy comes out on top......
While you are waiting for "Off the shelf" ASIC products, or investing fiat for BTC, I'll be accumulating hashpower as it becomes orderable...... all with my original investment.
Let's compare then 6 months, or a year from now....   Grin Grin Grin

Because accumulating when it's orderable will in no way highten the hashrate at all.... In your case I would advise you to buy all the jupiters off Ebay etc. in order to keep the hashrate as stable as possible... I really hope for your sake that you strategy works! I for myself will definitely wait for affordable hardware before I buy next. Maybe some of the whales are inclined to invest in a community based asic-miner production in the form of a non profit organisation or a German e.V...
Now that would be a dream come true.

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Not my Island, but bitcoin is finally reaching Hawaii....
We are always behnd tech wise.... lol.
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November 18, 2013, 08:35:36 PM
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I probably shouldn't be counting other people's money, but since he has been bragging about it. I feel sorry for phoneix who spent about $12K(by today's btc value) for one of his nov jupiters. No wonder he is a bit quiet lately.

You sound upset.

No, just fun observation. With this btc rise i start to feel like i overpaid for upgrade modules also.

Will this ever end?  

Unless you are going to buy and hold BTC with every cent you come across during every run up untill...?   And no crash ever happens....
If not, you are just second guessing and most likely just sitting on cash and hardly in the game

Buying KNC miners is like storing your BTC in a bank that only lets you withdraw a certain amount per day.  Helps to keep you in the game without selling everything at the first 20% jump.

These miners are the closest ones to get you back the same amount of BTC in as out as well..  even if it is 80% less the fact you are forced to hold in a massive bullrally as been a winning combination.

Actions are what matters, not hindsight

 

When i said "overpaid" i didn't mean that it will not pay itself off. I meant starting to feel like "overpaid" compared to buying november preorder with fiat. In hindsight of course. I don't blame knc btw (aside from them not allowing paying with credit card/paypal for upgrade modules), as they don't get bitcoins anyway.
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What do you do to get your upgrade modules cooled when they have no place to mount?

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November 18, 2013, 08:50:46 PM
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I probably shouldn't be counting other people's money, but since he has been bragging about it. I feel sorry for phoneix who spent about $12K(by today's btc value) for one of his nov jupiters. No wonder he is a bit quiet lately.
17.4 btc I think the first Nov. one was... hehe...part of the game.....no biggie!

You are fine, ~650GH delivered by first week of december will make over 17.4BTC in it's lifetime most likely, that's what matters right?
Exactly.......     

Hm. I still find pretty much all mining equipment heavily overprized for the fact that no asic miner company had any money of their own invested and pretty much financed all with the preorder money.
If they had used venture capital the price would be adequate, but raking in so much profit with a loss for the miners is not only morally wrong but will eventually lead to alternative approaches to the mining equipment production problem. They only damage their own consumer base with that...
KNC Customers operating @ a loss?   You are surely on a different planet, or doing something wrong.... OMG.

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What do you do to get your upgrade modules cooled when they have no place to mount?

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HA!  It did work!

Very cool.  When did the module arrive?  Were there any modifications you had to do to get the Corsair hook up?  Details please.   Smiley
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What do you do to get your upgrade modules cooled when they have no place to mount?

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That is awesome! Interesting to see the mounting holes line up. Is that an intel fit or AMD?

And what about temps?

Well done that man! Smiley

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Just received this UPS notification...


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3:47 P.M.   Registered with Clearing Agency. Shipment release pending Clearing Agency review. / Shipment submitted to Clearing Agency, awaiting final release.

I wonder if this means that the modules are in KY or just the Customs paperwork?  If it's actually in the US, that was frickin' quick!
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What do you do to get your upgrade modules cooled when they have no place to mount?

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Very interesting.  So the 4 holes around the ASIC do correspond with either Intel or AMD mounting holes.  I wonder why in that case KNC ended up using their custom "metal bar" adapter and attaching it to the 2 holes at the ends of the board.
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It's interesting, I couldn't use the mounting hardware, as the spacers were too tall, and the block wouldn't touch. So I simply used some longer screws (same thread as your cd-rom uses) and then used the pegs from the back plate of the heatsink. It's an Intel fit, I think the LGA1156, but not sure, as the heatsink as a slider area for the mounting holes. I then used the corsair mounting hardware to connect the 2 boards.

Here another interesting thing, the higher temp issue has nothing to do with how hot the ASIC is, I cool the asics fully with fans on the radiators, and point a fan to the boards, if I take the fan off the boards, the temperature rises and the die #0 issue goes away.  

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What do you do to get your upgrade modules cooled when they have no place to mount?

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Very interesting.  So the 4 holes around the ASIC do correspond with either Intel or AMD mounting holes.  I wonder why in that case KNC ended up using their custom "metal bar" adapter and attaching it to the 2 holes at the ends of the board.

That I have indeed wondered as well.

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November 18, 2013, 09:19:35 PM
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Ah it's a sad tale.  My Arctic Freezer i30 went astray.  I complained and thought Amazon had made good when I saw a UPS tracking number in my email this morning.  I was wrong.  It's my module.  I stopped at the post office to investigate what's going on.  The US Post office printed out what they have.  Amazon sent my i30 to 7315 Calle Alma, Carlsbad, CA 92009 and the origin is listed as Carlsbad, CA 92011.  They're trying to get one for me but it might take a few days and they'll call back when a tracking number is available.

It happens often.  It's racism.  I'm a New Yorker living in rural Georgia.  The incidence of packages going astray is unbelievably high if shipped from another state, i.e. Florida or California.  Whites who have a problem with Blacks who moved to their state from Georgia or Blacks who feel Georgians are racist.

Not too many years ago in Tennessee, prisoners in court were sometimes given the choice: a one way ticket to California and never return or jail.




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November 18, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
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Actually it was a gamble based on different things. I knew atleast one other was going and some coments from orama about all modules ship on same day, pretty sure monday was mentioned. No pre info for pickup customer more than others Wink
My gamble payed off    Cool good luck to all in this ghs war!
Actually I asked for written confirmation Thursday last week when I called. I asked for an email to make sure I don't for nothing.

While you are there, can you ask if there is any new news on Nov orders please if you get a chance.
Web site says 5 to 10 days ... i.e. 10+ days Tongue
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-66

Yer sorry, I was wondering if there was any new news,  that's at least 3 days old Wink

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Seriously?! And you think VC wouldn't want a pound of flesh? Or maybe mine for themselves? Pricing was initially based upon covering non recurring engineering costs divisible by interest obtained prior to pitching to ORSoC, which was 1,000+ people, and that's without profit, now it's competitive fair market value. You would be paying more if VC were on board. Dependent on the level of interest there may not be any public sale tendered with VC.

Furthermore if you believe in the social financial project that Bitcoin is, why would you risk a purchase with them? Pay with cash if you are bullish on coin, especially for something you have to wait a period of time for, by that logic it the coin would always assume a greater value, especially when that value is relative to scarcity, and adoption. Increased media interest alone since the ECB/Cypriot cash grab in April is enough to justify that...

Yes. VC would want a share of the company. And the price would have been the same since it's "competitive market value" as you stated. My point is that the profit margin was way too high for a product which was fully funded by the people who invested into said product without quarantees and a hilariously low liability on the companys side. A profit margin for the september orders of about 500-800$ per Jupiter would have been fair; they paid for everything, mind you. In essence KNC as every other asic manufacturer got an interest free loan in the millions and decided to wring some more profit out of the nice people who lend it to them.

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November 18, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
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Just received this UPS notification...


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Louisville, KY, United States
11/18/2013
3:47 P.M.   Registered with Clearing Agency. Shipment release pending Clearing Agency review. / Shipment submitted to Clearing Agency, awaiting final release.

I wonder if this means that the modules are in KY or just the Customs paperwork?  If it's actually in the US, that was frickin' quick!

I am speculating that this could be "pre-clearing". I think (speculate) it is too early for physical arrival.

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