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June 03, 2014, 08:54:19 PM
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You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers,  more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

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June 03, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
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June 2014 Newsletter:
"As we're closing in on tape-out of the Titan"

February 2014 Newsletter:
"As we are getting closer to the launch date of Neptune"

Me, yesterday:
KNC are such bullshitters, always pretending things are just around the corner.

Just so you know Titanic fans - when knc use any variation of the word "close", it actually translates into english as "about 4-9 months away"  Grin

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June 03, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
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You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers,  more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

~L)L~

Resellers? As far as I know SP-Tech doesn't have any resellers. I'm just a happy customer who wants them to succeed. I was a KnC happy customer last autumn until they ditched the customers who funded all of their operations.

If KnC doesn't ship a 5+Th/s Neptune then it's game over for their customers. 3Th/s for 10k+$ is just shit right now and you are better of with a refund. You could get 3Th/s shipped from stock until last week for only $5,600+shipping. No reason to pay 10k$ for 3Th/s with unknown delivery.

Remember that you are the only "customer" that is pro-KnC. Nobody else that is active here is satisfied with KnC.

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June 03, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
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Lets assume the Neptune can come in Jul 1, and mine 5 BTC in its life time and the FREE Neptune Sept 1 which would mine 1.5 BTC lifetime.

Id take the refund money and buy some TH riight now is better, even 5 SP10.

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June 03, 2014, 09:10:22 PM
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You are happy that KnCs competes with you as a customer ?

Competition is part of life.
I agree, but nevertheless is it unethical to compete with customers since this leads to a conflict of interest sooner or later.
And when there's a conflict between the perfect happiness of your customers and lining up your pockets we know how greed plays.

I'd prefer a company not competing with me and lining up their pockets by making be happy as far as possible.
KnCMiner is this no more.

You may dislike Spongebob for several reasons, but they arenot competing with customers,  more responsive and offering good deals as well.

I don't dislike Spondoolies. They seem like they are a very customer focused company with an ok product. I dislike the way some Spondoolies resellers operate. IMO they bring Spondoolies as a company into disrepute.

I know what you mean, their fanclub is hardcore from time to time.
KnC pushed this with their FrankenJups and delayed refunds from my point of view.


When I read your posts I'm not sure whether you got paid for posting stuff like this or it is some kind of Stockholm syndrome.
Get me right, you are welcome since it's boring

Wrong. But i am glad my posts are entertaining. Just wait till KNC ships the Neptune if you want some real entertainment.

~L)L~

When you were around August/September in here you could see how things reiterate in a certain way.
I do not doubt that Neptune will be the best piece of hardware when finally shipping (at least I hope so for the remaining customers), but the excitement from last year will not be topped for sure.

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June 03, 2014, 09:18:18 PM
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when is the lawsuit coming into play, waiting patiently to jump on

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June 03, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
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I've never read such paranoid guff in all my life.
I, for one am an individual with my own opinions and in a world of free speech, i have a right to express them

Jimmithy, you sound like a paranoid, butt hurt, jealous teenager who feels they deserve something out of life because you make the wrong decisions.
Get a life mate. Due dilligence is your friend

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June 03, 2014, 09:47:53 PM
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Lets assume the Neptune can come in Jul 1, and mine 5 BTC in its life time and the FREE Neptune Sept 1 which would mine 1.5 BTC lifetime.

Id take the refund money and buy some TH riight now is better, even 5 SP10.



5 SP10 right now going to a datacenter for 6 mo are ~20K with equipment 13.5K (who wants to have 5 of these in the house? not me).
After 6mo you will make $21.3K or 1.5K profit by Nov 1 if bitcoin stays the same ($668).

KnC: 4.5 TH on July 1 will give you ~11.66 BTC by Nov 1
extra 4.5 TH on Aug 1 will give you ~7 BTC by Nov 1
Total ~18.66 BTC, but with ~$1089 cost of electricity (if 0.12kwh)=$12485-1089=11396, so you still have profit of $1396 if you bought for 10k, not 13.5K.
So, conclusion: if KnC machine is 4.5TH by July and a second equal machine is given free on Aug 1, then you have a small profit in both cases and SAME BTC price.

Small edge to Spond because you don't need to do almost any work as they go to a datacenter, but 4.5TH KnC machines will probably have better resell value (if they are similar to Jupiters in average quality).

I call it a tie or very close.
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June 03, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
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You make it sound like there are a lot better deals on asic machines out there price/power/size  Roll Eyes
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June 04, 2014, 03:42:37 AM
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SgtMoth, I'll say the same thing to you I said to Helmax

If you hadn't fallen under the spell of the various self serving people here spreading FUD about KNC, you would still have your Neptune order(s) and be looking forward to a killer box delivered on time soon.

I can't help you out with the BFL angst ...

you really are new and stupid...If you read this thread, you would know..but just for you I will recap...I wanted refund, I ordered through buddy in states, the only refund I could get at the time was bank transfer, it would have went to my buddy in states/he would have to pay taxes, so out come offer for jupiter, I jump because I know network is moving fast upwards. End of fkn story, I wont pre order anymore....YOU should be worried about your NEPTUNE! 

For 2 fuckn weeks, I have been trying to get a beaglebone RMA and for 2 fkn weeks, Ive been given the run around.  So, I will not send any broken boards back and Ive given up on getting RMA for this beaglebone.  DO you want emails, oh thats right, I have already posted them, go back and fkn read loser.

BFL, I ordered very early, got my order very early, made lots of money...lots....bfl is a piece of shit company and I feel deeply sorry for anyone who ordered late.

btw...ALL, Thats right, All my bfl STILL runs
You went the extra mile to make some of what you have "Work" too...  Kudos; and you're also the first person I ever heard that made a dime from a BFL product. You are a true Mining Sensei.


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June 04, 2014, 04:21:40 AM
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You could get 3Th/s shipped from stock until last week for only $5,600+shipping.

What's the big deal ?  You could get 3TH of in-stock S2 with free shipping last week for $4950 and you wouldn't need hearing protectors or asbestos gloves. If you're not too worried about power, 15 S1 OC'd to 393.75 will get you 3TH at a LOT less.

I'm amused by the way SP talk about spreading the hash then build equipment that you wouldn't want in your home or small office.

The big deal is that the Neptune isn't worth the money right now. 3TH for 10k+$ is simply not worth it.

SP10 is for a DC or for the garage/basement.

Currently , S2 is much more expensive and with much higher consumption.

SP10 is ~ .89kw/th, SP2 is ~ 1kw/th . I wouldn't call that much higher consumption.
How much extra do you pay to host a SP10 in a datacenter ?
Re price: ask and ye shall be surprised …

SP10 can do 0.7kw/th. SP2 can't do that.

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June 04, 2014, 04:35:53 AM
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My favorite absurd pro-KNC argument... "KNC has a spectacular reputation for over-delivering!"

Really, they do? They have shipped a SINGLE product that was over-spec and nearly on-time! And one could argue that KNC deliberately screwed batch one customers by removing 4 VRMs from the October ASIC boards thereby crippling the first batch machines and handicapping the early adopters.

Indeed, the Jupiters were over-spec. But how they screwed customers after that is far more illuminating and sheds more light on what kind of company they really are. Datorhall, FrankenJups, no refund policy on Titan, lack of communication, broken promises, shitty RMA practices, super-slow refunds... I could go on and on. If some people see them as having some kind of glowing reputation after such a shitstorm, I can only assume that they are in total denial or completely delusional.


And on another topic... why such angst about referral links?! No one gets screwed or scammed by clicking a referral link. The affiliate only gets credit if the person who clicks the link actually buys something. And they are charged the same price as everyone (if not less, because of a special promotion). No one is harmed and a member of our hard working community gets rewarded for their efforts.

Sure, spammy posts are annoying. I know firsthand because I got scolded pretty bad by several members of the community for my overzealous efforts in the recent past. But if a post is on-topic and helpful, there is no reason not to include a discrete referral link.
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June 04, 2014, 05:31:49 AM
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agree about KnC and their hopeful delusionals. it could be a 20Gh/s unicorn miner but the fact that KnC are shitmongrel cunts means that your continued support of them fucks us all - datorhall 2 wont be far away if indeed it isnt already filled with 20nm magic

disagree about referral links - its against forum rules and like spam in general, cheap & grotty
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June 04, 2014, 07:17:33 AM
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agree about KnC and their hopeful delusionals. it could be a 20Gh/s unicorn miner but the fact that KnC are shitmongrel cunts means that your continued support of them fucks us all - datorhall 2 wont be far away if indeed it isnt already filled with 20nm magic

disagree about referral links - its against forum rules and like spam in general, cheap & grotty

PG said they have 3. The picture was 1 of 3 datorhall that they have. Agree with referrals as well. No place for them here.
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June 04, 2014, 08:16:55 AM
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agree about KnC and their hopeful delusionals. it could be a 20Gh/s unicorn miner but the fact that KnC are shitmongrel cunts means that your continued support of them fucks us all - datorhall 2 wont be far away if indeed it isnt already filled with 20nm magic

disagree about referral links - its against forum rules and like spam in general, cheap & grotty

PG said they have 3. The picture was 1 of 3 datorhall that they have. Agree with referrals as well. No place for them here.

I can't help but feel that the same people who are opposed to referral links are the same guys who say; "such and such band 'sold out'" only because they had a Top 40 hit, lol. Meaning, they are resentful of someone who is successful simply for offering something the someone wants.

I just don't see the harm in it as long as it's appropriate to the topic. In fact, I find it helpful. Recently, I made a significant investment based on information I read on this forum. I purposely sought out the person who was most helpful to me and used his referral link to make my purchase. It didn't cost me a penny more and he was rewarded for being helpful. The only people who "suffered" were the company who's goods/service I purchased because they received 10% less in profit.

Another more recent example, I would have bought from Spondoolies if I had been in the market for more ASICs but for various reasons, I'm not buying more. But if I were, I'd be sure to click Roadstress' referral links because he has made a persuasive sales pitch in their favor. In this scenario, Spondoolies makes a sale they may not have without the extra push from Roadstress. Therefore Roadstress is rewarded for his effort.
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June 04, 2014, 09:27:04 AM
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I just don't trust anyone shilling for products or services anymore in these forums. I made that mistake once and I won't repeat. The rest of you can take your chances and I wish you the best.
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June 04, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
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And on another topic... why such angst about referral links?! No one gets screwed or scammed by clicking a referral link. The affiliate only gets credit if the person who clicks the link actually buys something. And they are charged the same price as everyone (if not less, because of a special promotion). No one is harmed and a member of our hard working community gets rewarded for their efforts.

Sure, spammy posts are annoying. I know firsthand because I got scolded pretty bad by several members of the community for my overzealous efforts in the recent past. But if a post is on-topic and helpful, there is no reason not to include a discrete referral link.

+1 nothing wrong with referal links in ones sig etc.

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June 04, 2014, 09:36:04 AM
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And on another topic... why such angst about referral links?! No one gets screwed or scammed by clicking a referral link. The affiliate only gets credit if the person who clicks the link actually buys something. And they are charged the same price as everyone (if not less, because of a special promotion). No one is harmed and a member of our hard working community gets rewarded for their efforts.

Sure, spammy posts are annoying. I know firsthand because I got scolded pretty bad by several members of the community for my overzealous efforts in the recent past. But if a post is on-topic and helpful, there is no reason not to include a discrete referral link.

+1 nothing wrong with referal links in ones sig etc.

Debatable. Without affiliate marketing we wouldn't allow obvious ponzis like pbmining to thrive.
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June 04, 2014, 09:57:47 AM
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And on another topic... why such angst about referral links?! No one gets screwed or scammed by clicking a referral link. The affiliate only gets credit if the person who clicks the link actually buys something. And they are charged the same price as everyone (if not less, because of a special promotion). No one is harmed and a member of our hard working community gets rewarded for their efforts.

Sure, spammy posts are annoying. I know firsthand because I got scolded pretty bad by several members of the community for my overzealous efforts in the recent past. But if a post is on-topic and helpful, there is no reason not to include a discrete referral link.

+1 nothing wrong with referal links in ones sig etc.

Debatable. Without affiliate marketing we wouldn't allow obvious ponzis like pbmining to thrive.

Caveat emptor, buyers who are spending this much money on stuff should really do their research. I looked at pbmining at one time when their rates dropped below hardware costs, but after about 10 minutes reading could see it wasn't a good idea. Same with all these new mining companies popping up.

For me there is only a fairly short list of suppliers & manufacturers I trust now:
Spondoolies, pcfli, Bitmain, peppermining, Technobit, gridseed.

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June 04, 2014, 10:30:44 AM
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who here is in Queue for refund?

iam waiting a long time, and they always say have people in front of me

scammers

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