Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[samsonn25]

I also hope they don't switch Plan B off for a week after they ship your Neppy, as it takes about a week to receive a unit what with shipping time plus customs delays.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade but I thought Sam said it's either or, Plan B or wait, did he change it?

From https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-75

Plan B

As you are all aware we broke many world records in releasing the 28nm chip in such a short amount of time. We are a very ambitious company but even for us, to go “all in” and not be able to deliver on our performance targets, like our competition, would be completely unacceptable to us as a company and everything we stand for. So today we are introducing, Plan B.
 
To make sure that everyone who has paid for their Neptune gets their hashing power we are building a data centre like no other. It is located in the north of Sweden not far from Facebook and other Mega Data Centres and it’s totally powered by renewable energy.
 
Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers.
 
In the addition to this commitment, as part of Plan B, for all Neptune customers, we will be offering a free conversion to a hosted hashing package where we will simply fill your wallets directly and you won’t have to worry about anything else. All the other costs taken care of by us. We are able to do this by using our 28nm chips which is why all products that we have coming out of our factory in the next few months will go into building and supplying the Plan B facility.
 
If, during the course of development of Neptune, there is any threat to the timelines for delivery, those delays will not result in the loss of any mining time for our Neptune customers. We will release more details of this as we get closer to the delivery date, but for now we have one of the world’s largest data centres to build.

I read "any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers" as meaning that Plan B will kick in at the point when your Neptune should have shipped and will continue until it is shipped.

Then separately, if you want to convert your Neptune to a hosted plan, you can.

I think it would be good if KnCMiner could clarify these questions and release more details of how Plan B will work.  June is not far away!

Its almost implying they may or may not have any Neptunes ready by end of Q2.  But we made alot of money mining with your pre-order money from November, let us take some of the  profit and develop the Neptune at our own pace.  In any case they will let you use the hashrate from their super Jupiter farm.  wth

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[dwdoc]

Anyone else besides me using Anotherhost notice their miners are suddenly down?

They were down for about 4 hours - I assume you received their during/post outage emails.

Yeah.  I was in the middle of upgrading firmware to over clock and I thought I had set the whole place on fire.  Haha

[poodle63]

So , now they deserve for a pardon, they aren't not willing to ship, they just not able to, forgive them~

[yelloyello]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

[Phoenix1969]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

[poodle63]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

[Phoenix1969]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

and then the diff doubles every delivery..... = screwed.
Sure was nice back when a Jupiter made about a coin a day...

[poodle63]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

and then the diff doubles every delivery..... = screwed.
Sure was nice back when a Jupiter made about a coin a day...

Yep, Good old days~

[smoothrunnings]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

and then the diff doubles every delivery..... = screwed.
Sure was nice back when a Jupiter made about a coin a day...

That's hearsay lets worry about the diff when we need to cross that road. No need to scare people about events that haven't even happened yet.

[Phoenix1969]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

and then the diff doubles every delivery..... = screwed.
Sure was nice back when a Jupiter made about a coin a day...

That's hearsay lets worry about the diff when we need to cross that road. No need to scare people about events that haven't even happened yet.

ROFL, and that's only one of the forces working against us...
delivery times...
and 7 billion humans on earth for only 12 million coin...
Get them while you can; and do your math... mining vs, buy & hold.
looks to me like the chances of a Neptune making 15 coin are gone to me,
even if Neptune were ten terrahash; and I REALLY don't feel like running
a datacenter for six months to a year just to re-coup a fraction of the investment.
Hopefully BTC goes to $5k..  
Good luck all.

[smoothrunnings]

Super Jupiter report:

At this time the average is 3,214.95 Gh/s = 0.18262383 BTC per day.

So let's pray for the Neptune clients.

So, start mining next month, and hash rate is 1.5 times V.S super junk = 5tg/s, and estimate difficulty = 130% from now, Nips still get 0.183BTC per day~ cheers!

add AUG free 1, so 0.183BTC per day till September~

and then the diff doubles every delivery..... = screwed.
Sure was nice back when a Jupiter made about a coin a day...

That's hearsay lets worry about the diff when we need to cross that road. No need to scare people about events that haven't even happened yet.

ROFL, and that's only one of the forces working against us...
delivery times...
and 7 billion humans on earth for only 12 million coin...
Get them while you can; and do your math... mining vs, buy & hold.
looks to me like the chances of a Neptune making 15 coin are gone to me,
even if Neptune were ten terrahash; and I REALLY don't feel like running
a datacenter for six months to a year just to re-coup a fraction of the investment.
Hopefully BTC goes to $5k..  
Good luck all.

Has anyone ever told you that your worrying too much for a product that isn't even shipping yet?

There nothing like panicking over vapour ware!

[Phoenix1969]

 That's the thing...
Our "Vaporware Value" is diminishing much like a fart in the wind at a ballgame in chicago where plenty of beans had been served...  

[bittawm]

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[tzortz]

I bet there is no Neptune ever designed.

[RawDog]

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This is totally stupid.  They haven't even missed their shipping date yet.  The other guys had 6 months past the shipping date before a lawsuit was filed.  So far, KnC hasn't even broke their promise.  They still give out refunds left and right.  Why are you going to sue them.  About 5 guys are being dumbasses and doing a ton of screaming.  Idiots. 

[s1gs3gv]

 Idiots. 

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Idiots and whiners

[bittawm]

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This is totally stupid.  They haven't even missed their shipping date yet.  The other guys had 6 months past the shipping date before a lawsuit was filed.  So far, KnC hasn't even broke their promise.  They still give out refunds left and right.  Why are you going to sue them.  About 5 guys are being dumbasses and doing a ton of screaming.  Idiots. 

not for neptune, dont be so quick to jump the gun,

I mean for all the super jupiter VICTIMS

[arousedrhino]

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This is totally stupid.  They haven't even missed their shipping date yet.  The other guys had 6 months past the shipping date before a lawsuit was filed.  So far, KnC hasn't even broke their promise.  They still give out refunds left and right.  Why are you going to sue them.  About 5 guys are being dumbasses and doing a ton of screaming.  Idiots. 

They never shipped working Super Jupiters to their customers, just boxes of broken parts. That is a MISSED deadline that they set themselves. They only give out refunds after being begged repeatedly, have you even been reading this thread?

By all means go and order another Neptune if you really believe what you wrote, they are super trustworthy and never lie about anything right?

[xstr8guy]

I'm beginning to wonder if some of the FrankenJup owners haven't given up too quickly trying to get their Jups running. Some of the orders were indeed total shit and unusable. But I've managed to get another 6 boards running from the second batch for a total of 24 boards and 3.7THs*. I expect to easily get another 6 boards running for another ~900GHs. Maybe more if I bought another controller, which I won't. I possess not special technical prowess either. So if I can do it, anyone can... if it's at all possible.

Of course I was lucky to be in the first 'assembled' batch too and received an extra 18 boards to work with. So there's that, lol.

I can't say I'm completely dissatisfied although the design of the FJ's are crap. I'm hashing now with more THs than I originally paid for. Although I did have to buy 2 extra Controller boards (at an exorbitant price), 2 additional PSUs and 12 i30s. Waiting for the IDC cables was the biggest headache. KNC should supply those with the Controller boards since they are rather uncommon and difficult to find.

If knew then what I know now, I would have certainly cancelled or never ordered from KNC in the first place. But I consider myself to be one of the lucky ones. I could have made many other choices that would have been much worse, such as preordering from HashFast, BitMine.ch, VMC, etc. or continued to wait for a Neptune. Maybe I'll be jealous if/when they are finally delivered. Maybe not.

On the dark-side... I'm still waiting for 2+ Monarchs that probably will never be delivered before BFL goes tits-up. Lol.



* underclocked... Otherwise I'd get very close to 1THs per 6 modules. But the FrankenJup @ stock clock runs too hot for my tastes. Also they seem to be much more efficient at lower clock speeds and since I'm maxing out my circuits, I need to watch this carefully. Plus it's so DAMN hot in my house despite the recent addition of supplemental A/C for my "server" room (spare bedroom). I have to keep the house A/C at 85 during the day so it doesn't run constantly.

[SgtMoth]

1.95t/h, I have another one like this with one 6 boards going, waiting on other beaglebone, since knc has been fucking me around for a week waiting to rma it, I said fuck it yesterday and ordered a beaglebone black for it, since the bottom part works.