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November 25, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
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i am testing right now cgminer-tune with my jupiter that has got some problems at the beginning and is mining at 520GH with 3.8.1. i can report that the jupiter is hashing now at 480GH Sad. and i am not sure but it takes some time till the working diff has changed usually i think it got changed faster. i am mining on eligius btw.

i will update you in 2-3h.

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after one hour it is working at 511GH/s

just an update:

jupiter one: FW0.99 3.8.1@523GH/s AVG HW2,4% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@513GH/s AVG HW1,4% (3h working)
jupiter two: FW0.99 3.8.1@564GH/s AVG HW2,0% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@566GH/s AVG HW1,4% (10min working)


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November 25, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
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Anyone got a November tracking no besides the one mentioned in KNC Forums?

Not yet, thought mine would be today.
May I ask your order no? Mine is 70xx.

I don't have one. I am a reseller. I'm in no rush, nor complaining, just thought it would be today for some reason, hahaha. I am naturally quite an optimistic guy.


I've seen a few 7's that have received the notification today. Is anyone going to start a shipping thread on here like the Oct one?

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November 25, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
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The power line could be the problem indeed. As for PSU I'm using 2 X Enermax Maxrevo 1500W (gold), one powering the Jupiter, the other powering the 2 saturns. They have 4 12V rails available for PCI-e and I simply use one rail for each module.
My Jupiter runs just fine on 0.98.1 beta and it ran fine on 0.99 since release until today, when I found it running with all die #0 offline so i switched back to 0.98.1 beta. Just the 2 Saturns seems to have been affected. They still run "ok" with only die #0 offline on 0.98.
By the way, both PSU's are getting power from the same line.
yep, ouch. single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage during the spikes in hashrate... and two 1500watt supplies on a 20 amp circuit is not so good either...(20 amps x 110v = 2200 watt max per 20 amp circuit, (or in EU...220v x 10amp = 2200watt)and you are saying there is more than two jupiters on that circuit?....I really think it's your power situation now for sure...


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November 25, 2013, 05:36:30 PM
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Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

...An interesting read regarding this announcement(albeit from 2012)...

http://www.altera.com/technology/system-design/articles/2012/20nm-systems-era.html
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November 25, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

...An interesting read regarding this announcement(albeit from 2012)...

http://www.altera.com/technology/system-design/articles/2012/20nm-systems-era.html
Ours are made by Alchip & AST.....is that the same as altera?


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November 25, 2013, 05:39:19 PM
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O'rama, be nice: can you give us a hint of hashrate? What kind of ASIC will it be?

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November 25, 2013, 05:40:44 PM
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yep, ouch. single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage during the spikes in hashrate... and two 1500watt supplies on a 20 amp circuit is not so good either...(20 amps x 110v = 2200 watt max per 20 amp circuit, (or in EU...220v x 10amp = 2200watt)and you are saying there is more than two jupiters on that circuit?....I really think it's your power situation now for sure...

I think these 'spikes in hashrate' you see is just variance.  The chips run at a constant speed.

Variance does not cause your miner to draw more or less current.

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November 25, 2013, 05:43:42 PM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-68
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November 25, 2013, 05:44:22 PM
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Ours are made by Alchip.....is that the same as altera?

I do know our controller board has an Altera fpga on it... this article is more focused on 20nm in general.  

Also according to this article "Advanced Micro Devices said Thursday that it would tape out the first products to be manufactured using 14nm FinFET and 20nm planar process technologies in the coming quarters."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20131017231002_AMD_to_Tape_Out_First_20nm_14nm_FinFET_Chips_Within_Next_Two_Quarters.html

A quick summary is that even AMD has not yet taped out a 20nm product... and dont even plan on bringing any 20nm products to market in 2014.  This is big news once again if KnC can pull it off!!!
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Last edit: November 25, 2013, 06:03:52 PM by Phoenix1969
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yep, ouch. single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage during the spikes in hashrate... and two 1500watt supplies on a 20 amp circuit is not so good either...(20 amps x 110v = 2200 watt max per 20 amp circuit, (or in EU...220v x 10amp = 2200watt)and you are saying there is more than two jupiters on that circuit?....I really think it's your power situation now for sure...

I think these 'spikes in hashrate' you see is just variance.  The chips run at a constant speed.

Variance does not cause your miner to draw more or less current.
Okay spikes are variance....?  yes... and what causes that variance?...who knows...have you used a kil-o-watt to see that what you are saying is correct? Yours stay rock-solid on a single wattage reading? Mine don't. The reading on mine at the wall goes up & down in direct correlation with the variance...   and when I had them on a "Shared circuit"  it was terribly obvious the other things going on were effecting it when the kil-o-watt dropped when other things were used in the house, like microwave oven, coffee pot, toaster, aircon, etc....   That's just my observations here, which is why I say that.
You can even watch bertmod to verify what I'm saying.... the vrm output goes up & down with hashrate as well
My VRM's are  outputting a FULL 12v, @ 50amps now btw... and if I said how...Edgar would complain.... but it has to do with temps and clean, unwavering, unlimited power....


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November 25, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-68
 All,

Just a quick note to say that the factory started producing the November boxes today and 100 have already left via UPS.

We will ramp up production over night and over the next few days. We aim to have all the November boxes shipped before the end of the month.

Thanks

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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-68
 All,

Just a quick note to say that the factory started producing the November boxes today and 100 have already left via UPS.

We will ramp up production over night and over the next few days. We aim to have all the November boxes shipped before the end of the month.

Thanks

KnC Team
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November 25, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
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None of the 4 for my GB's have shipped Sad, but glad to hear they are working on it!
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November 25, 2013, 06:01:56 PM
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The power line could be the problem indeed. As for PSU I'm using 2 X Enermax Maxrevo 1500W (gold), one powering the Jupiter, the other powering the 2 saturns. They have 4 12V rails available for PCI-e and I simply use one rail for each module.
My Jupiter runs just fine on 0.98.1 beta and it ran fine on 0.99 since release until today, when I found it running with all die #0 offline so i switched back to 0.98.1 beta. Just the 2 Saturns seems to have been affected. They still run "ok" with only die #0 offline on 0.98.
By the way, both PSU's are getting power from the same line.
yep, ouch. single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage during the spikes in hashrate... and two 1500watt supplies on a 20 amp circuit is not so good either...(20 amps x 110v = 2200 watt max per 20 amp circuit, (or in EU...220v x 10amp = 2200watt)and you are saying there is more than two jupiters on that circuit?....I really think it's your power situation now for sure...

No, it's one Jupiter and 2 Saturns. The line is EU (220V), my house also has the "tri-phasic" circuit, I'm a total noob about that I have no idea what kind of line I'm currently using Smiley Anyways, the issues only appeared after the 0.99 FW, they ran just fine before that on 0.98.1 (fine meaning getting all dies on at high temps).
Here's a screenshot of the miner at start-up on 0.98.1 now: http://imgur.com/VHqBUf6. The other Saturn is even more weird, it starts normally, it powers up all dies once enough temp is achieved and after a while, it just starts turning off almost all cores on the 2nd ASIC (same asic affected on the other Saturn).
Again, they both run just fine on 0.98, of course with die #0 turned off: http://imgur.com/LbzqRIM

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November 25, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-68
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Just a quick note to say that the factory started producing the November boxes today and 100 have already left via UPS.

We will ramp up production over night and over the next few days. We aim to have all the November boxes shipped before the end of the month.

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November 25, 2013, 06:09:51 PM
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O'rama, be nice: can you give us a hint of hashrate? What kind of ASIC will it be?

There will be more info tomo. Figures have been mentioned, but I'm not going to steal anyone else's thunder. They're working hard for this, 20nm is just being released for commercial use, and we'll be one of the first companies in the world to half-step down to this process node. The figures have to make sense, Alchip flew here Friday week before last, and we are proceeding with the design.


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Pretty Awesome Orama!! KnC is just crapping on the competition!

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November 25, 2013, 06:15:02 PM
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The power line could be the problem indeed. As for PSU I'm using 2 X Enermax Maxrevo 1500W (gold), one powering the Jupiter, the other powering the 2 saturns. They have 4 12V rails available for PCI-e and I simply use one rail for each module.
My Jupiter runs just fine on 0.98.1 beta and it ran fine on 0.99 since release until today, when I found it running with all die #0 offline so i switched back to 0.98.1 beta. Just the 2 Saturns seems to have been affected. They still run "ok" with only die #0 offline on 0.98.
By the way, both PSU's are getting power from the same line.
yep, ouch. single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage during the spikes in hashrate... and two 1500watt supplies on a 20 amp circuit is not so good either...(20 amps x 110v = 2200 watt max per 20 amp circuit, (or in EU...220v x 10amp = 2200watt)and you are saying there is more than two jupiters on that circuit?....I really think it's your power situation now for sure...

No, it's one Jupiter and 2 Saturns. The line is EU (220V), my house also has the "tri-phasic" circuit, I'm a total noob about that I have no idea what kind of line I'm currently using Smiley Anyways, the issues only appeared after the 0.99 FW, they ran just fine before that on 0.98.1 (fine meaning getting all dies on at high temps).
Here's a screenshot of the miner at start-up on 0.98.1 now: http://imgur.com/VHqBUf6. The other Saturn is even more weird, it starts normally, it powers up all dies once enough temp is achieved and after a while, it just starts turning off almost all cores on the 2nd ASIC (same asic affected on the other Saturn).
Again, they both run just fine on 0.98, of course with die #0 turned off: http://imgur.com/LbzqRIM
So, what's the problem then exactly?  Just go back to the firmware that works best then.... You are experiencing what many of us did....do...are experiencing then with the firmware....mine all run best on the 0.98.1 beta, and so I just use that.
I Hope you can get it worked out......  every machine seems to haveit's own attitude!...lol


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November 25, 2013, 06:18:29 PM
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single rails provide much cleaner power and are able to supply the extra amperage

You keep saying this.  Can you provide some support for this statement please?

Antec, for one, seems to disagree with you.

http://www.antec.com/PSU/index.php
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November 25, 2013, 06:23:43 PM
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No details. Coming SoonTM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

anyone care to speculate on the other specs and prices? just for fun

I'll get us started, 2TH @ =< 0.5 watt per ghs

and selling for $3999. or less Wink

Power at the wall is an issue for us not prepared to upgrade our incoming service.

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