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November 27, 2013, 12:57:28 PM
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Thx Bitcoinorama 4 nothing, mostly the mercury hash only 80-99Ghas, most of 200 oct boards ended in Jupiter's owners hands, or on ebay, bitmit, marke place Sad and please do don't write like there is only one manufacturer for each part of mainer in world

...what?!

My sentiments exactly!!!

Not sure why he's blaming Orama for this.. but I do feel where he's coming from (yet, wouldn't blame Orama). I <3 KNC and their quality products, don't get me wrong, but I'm also capable of separating my fandom and calling BS on some stuff. And I'm definitely flagging them right now.

1. They had the capability to limit the modules to just Mercury/Saturn orders, despite claiming otherwise or saying they weren't sure how to handle it. Anyone who runs a database backend to serve a website ordering system, has the capability. If they claim they don't, then something is way off base. They could've simply limited it to Mercury/Saturn purchasers, X number of them for Y amount of time, at Z price, after which they would be available for anyone to purchase.

This would be similar to what they're doing with the Neptune--only previous customers can get them, X number, for Y amount of time, at Z price. The very thing they claim they couldn't do regarding the modules! So.. BS on that.

The reality is they wanted to firesale the units to clear out stock, and be mostly done with the 28nm systems. With such a good rep on fast delivery, they can then say "well hey we're out of our current product.. so PREORDER with us for our even BETTER product", and folks will bite that fishook.

2. They talk about protecting the network.. but really? I'm flagging that. In reality, it's likely a business move which buys them time to take care of matters on their end (which can be good), and provides them a get-out-of-jail-free card with regard to selling "from stock/off the shelf". This is a key point. Protecting the network is all about ADDING hashrate, not witholding it.

What they're ACTUALLY doing is trying to prevent the BFL Bugger, where so many orders are being shipped that some people get their equipment and it doesn't even mine anything due to such a high difficulty.

That's not protecting the network, that's covering their ass so they don't get bad reviews similar to BFL.

Anyone who understands mining would know that withholding hashrate isn't protecting the network, it's just helping keep the difficulty down so you can profit from mining (KNC mines also, keep that in mind).

Anyhow.. I have confidence they can pull off the 20nm stuff, and their designs are without equal right now, but I just think they burned a few bridges in order to open up a few pathways to the industrial side of mining. In the longrun, it will be professionally hosted sites and industrial-based home setups which will carry bitcoin. It's clear KNC is positioning themselves to be the #1 hardware supplier of those customers, and is leaving the consumer/foundational miner behind.

Anyone who doesn't see that, has blinds over their eyes.

And Orama, I wouldn't be to sharp to say Cointerra's chips are being rated at "maximum" output. There just may be some surprises in store.

Just my .02

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November 27, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
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if anyone is going to order 1 or 2 kncminer NEPTUNES, I would have you seriously consider Wesly's offer and use his reseller link:

He offers a mighty fair deal! Read about it if you are seriously considering a neptune. Good luck!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348743.msg


his reseller link direct to knc:

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354

Or use me as i've gone stir crazy over the last few months putting up with crap from everywhere and haven't had one yet...

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November 27, 2013, 12:58:36 PM
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if anyone is going to order 1 or 2 kncminer NEPTUNES, I would have you seriously consider Wesly's offer and use his reseller link:

He offers a mighty fair deal! Read about it if you are seriously considering a neptune. Good luck!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348743.msg


his reseller link direct to knc:

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354

Or if anyone wants to "help protect the network", they can use my reseller link and help me get a Neptune, since I can't get one on my own lol

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November 27, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
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I do lov ya Orama, in a brotherly way....and vesper well I appreciate your effort....but reality is we spending some serious coin and any little help we can get is the way to go right now.....if all bodes well on our trip to NEPTUNE, Orama, you def. will receive a token of appreciation from me....and yes you have had to defend yourself and knc....and done a respectable job of it. Your efforts shall be rewarded, you shall see.

So on that note....Neptuners to be....consider Wesly!

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348743.msg


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November 27, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
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I do lov ya Orama, in a brotherly way....and vesper well I appreciate your effort....but reality is we spending some serious coin and any little help we can get is the way to go right now.....if all bodes well on our trip to NEPTUNE, Orama, you def. will receive a token of appreciation from me....and yes you have had to defend yourself and knc....and done a respectable job of it. Your efforts shall be rewarded, you shall see.

So on that note....Neptuners to be....consider Wesly!

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348743.msg


Come join the party...nothing to lose and bitcoin to gain!!

Ok tone it down, your promotion of wesley is starting to look a bit sycophantic

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November 27, 2013, 01:22:39 PM
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I do lov ya Orama, in a brotherly way....and vesper well I appreciate your effort....but reality is we spending some serious coin and any little help we can get is the way to go right now.....if all bodes well on our trip to NEPTUNE, Orama, you def. will receive a token of appreciation from me....and yes you have had to defend yourself and knc....and done a respectable job of it. Your efforts shall be rewarded, you shall see.

So on that note....Neptuners to be....consider Wesly!

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348743.msg


Come join the party...nothing to lose and bitcoin to gain!!

Ok tone it down, your promotion of wesley is starting to look a bit sycophantic
sorry biffa, got carried away--- Embarrassed
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November 27, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
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Ok tone it down, your promotion of wesley is starting to look a bit sycophantic

LOL.. I thought it was interesting he said he appreciated my effort, and then pointed back to Wesley

So many dynamic individuals out here on the interwebs.

I wish him and Wesley best of luck, and will continue to beg for folks to use my referral link haha Cheesy

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November 27, 2013, 01:33:28 PM
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Anyone selling  a full functioning Jupiter please let me know. I don't want die 0 issues or anything like that. Have BTC immediate for payment. Please message me. Thanks.


Can you pay in cash

Yea, I can pay in cash.

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November 27, 2013, 01:34:49 PM
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Ok tone it down, your promotion of wesley is starting to look a bit sycophantic

LOL.. I thought it was interesting he said he appreciated my effort, and then pointed back to Wesley

So many dynamic individuals out here on the interwebs.

I wish him and Wesley best of luck, and will continue to beg for folks to use my referral link haha Cheesy
vesper, dynamic? thanks! been called alot of things before, but dynamic is a first..... Grin
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November 27, 2013, 01:35:30 PM
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Anyone selling  a full functioning Jupiter please let me know. I don't want die 0 issues or anything like that. Have BTC immediate for payment. Please message me. Thanks.


Can you pay in cash

Yea, I can pay in cash.
Cash is tempting....but it would be alot.....
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November 27, 2013, 01:36:58 PM
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Anyone selling  a full functioning Jupiter please let me know. I don't want die 0 issues or anything like that. Have BTC immediate for payment. Please message me. Thanks.


Can you pay in cash

Yea, I can pay in cash.
Cash is tempting....but it would be alot.....

Cash/bitcoin/gold/women it's all the same, right? I'm just looking to see if someone wants to offload their Jupiter now while they still can....in a couple months they may be very hard to sell. Or I wouldn't be interested in that time. See ya at work!


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November 27, 2013, 01:37:54 PM
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vesper, dynamic? thanks! been called alot of things before, but dynamic is a first..... Grin

Glad I could help! Smiley

Cash/bitcoin/gold/women it's all the same, right? I'm just looking to see if someone wants to offload their Jupiter now while they still can....in a couple months they may be very hard to sell. Or I wouldn't be interested in that time. See ya at work!

So you can pay in women.. what might you have to offer..?

Cheesy

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November 27, 2013, 02:10:52 PM
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vesper, dynamic? thanks! been called alot of things before, but dynamic is a first..... Grin

Glad I could help! Smiley

Cash/bitcoin/gold/women it's all the same, right? I'm just looking to see if someone wants to offload their Jupiter now while they still can....in a couple months they may be very hard to sell. Or I wouldn't be interested in that time. See ya at work!

So you can pay in women.. what might you have to offer..?

Cheesy

I prefer the strong (put'em to work) and real silent type ( can't nag nor argue back, well at least not out loud)....you got any of those opentoe?
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November 27, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
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Anyone received a shipping notification today?

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November 27, 2013, 02:18:07 PM
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Anyhow.. I have confidence they can pull off the 20nm stuff, and their designs are without equal right now, but I just think they burned a few bridges in order to open up a few pathways to the industrial side of mining. In the longrun, it will be professionally hosted sites and industrial-based home setups which will carry bitcoin. It's clear KNC is positioning themselves to be the #1 hardware supplier of those customers, and is leaving the consumer/foundational miner behind.

Anyone who doesn't see that, has blinds over their eyes.

And Orama, I wouldn't be to sharp to say Cointerra's chips are being rated at "maximum" output. There just may be some surprises in store.

Just my .02

Sorry if this has already been discussed (can't keep up with this thread!) but realistically, will the Neptune ever ROI? It seems a bit punchy price-wise...
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November 27, 2013, 02:18:31 PM
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Anyone received a shipping notification today?
An update would be nice.    Kind of a simple summary.
Saturns Shipped:       Still to Ship:
Jupiters Shipped:      Still to Ship:
Total Units Shipping per Day:

Date and Time that last order shipped today PAID:

That would give everyone enough information that we could maybe stop adding 10 pages a day to this thread?

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November 27, 2013, 02:20:43 PM
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Er..I had what I think anyway an interesting thought (doubtful)

...knc miner has a Chinese site..so I assume anyone from China also has links if they we're a previous customer to get the Neptune.

So (correct me if I'm wrong) in TWO WEEKS this batch of miners will be done and then the next batch of miners will be offered for sale to ANYONE  at the price I heard of $12,666 incl shipping...or some such...ie open the floodgates....

What exactly do you think is gonna happen to that site/ordering etc when Chinese folks can order these Neptune miners direct at that point? I would imagine a lot of these folks missed the boat on the Oct orders etc? It could be beyond huge (also could mess up my plans on ROI on Neptune....er then again more demand for BTC .....jeez this stuff can give a guy a headache)

Gives one pause don't it?

(goes back to the KNC shopping que and ponders the 2nd unpaid Neptune...and continues naval gazing and pondering....good to have goals)

Searing

Is there a Neptune Order Thread  on bitcointalk.org??  ..would like to see where I stack up in the que..11xx .... assuming such exists?

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November 27, 2013, 02:27:05 PM
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Geez KNC, you post about upcoming announcement 2 days ago.  And now when I am on vacation you already start ordering.....wtf.  Talk about being in a rush for cash. Good thing I have remote access to my wallet.  Also, I do not see bank transfer option on payment section.  Tongue

At this point difficulty is now going to be hyperbolic and everyone is going to get pennies.  It may be time to just resell units to the new suckers.

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November 27, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
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Received my Nov Jupiter today morning (Europe). Order # 70xx. Hashing at 669 GH/s (cgminer avg). Shipping took one day, UPS.
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November 27, 2013, 02:36:22 PM
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What date, roughly did you order if you don't mind me asking.

Thanks

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