Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[joeventura]

You can easily add two more plugs to your controller with basic soldering skills.

I hope to be making a video next week to show how its done.

I don't think they are basic skills. If you never soldered anything this procedure is quite difficult without ruining your currently working board.

I believe he was conveying that if you've soldered, it's a basic job.

This is true.

Its all about the right tools.

For this job you need a desoldering iron to clear the holes

Like this one:



(about $15 on Amazon)

and then once the holes are cleared, a low wattage pencil iron

like this:



NOT THIS:



Too big an iron, too hot and you damage the board.

[Ridicuss]

You can easily add two more plugs to your controller with basic soldering skills.

I hope to be making a video next week to show how its done.

I don't think they are basic skills. If you never soldered anything this procedure is quite difficult without ruining your currently working board.

I believe he was conveying that if you've soldered, it's a basic job.

This is true.

Its all about the right tools.

For this job you need a desoldering iron to clear the holes

Like this one:



(about $15 on Amazon)

and then once the holes are cleared, a low wattage pencil iron

like this:



NOT THIS:



Too big an iron, too hot and you damage the board.

Joe,
Do you have a source for the 2x5 pin IDC header to solder onto to the KNC controller board.
I ordered a bag from amazon that were supposed to be 2.5mm but they are 1mm. I thought I would ask you before I ordered from digikey.

[kendog77]

I have Neptune pre-orders, so with Cointerra and Hashfast shipping, I've been keeping a close eye on the next difficulty change.

Take a look at the recent slope of the 504 block hashrate graph! It looks like the difficulty is about to explode yet again. Sadly, I think Neptunes will be net Bitcoin losers (folks won't get back what they paid for them in BTC) if they don't ship by late March.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

[DPoS]

I have Neptune pre-orders, so with Cointerra and Hashfast shipping, I've been keeping a close eye on the next difficulty change.

Take a look at the recent slope of the 504 block hashrate graph! It looks like the difficulty is about to explode yet again. Sadly, I think Neptunes will be net Bitcoin losers (folks won't get back what they paid for them in BTC) if they don't ship by late March.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

can people stop posting that cointerra is shipping so the mods can stop deleting my replies trying to keep the record straight?

[Bogart]

once the holes are cleared, a low wattage pencil iron

Actually you may need some more substantial wattage.  Some of the holes are connected to the big copper ground plane which sucks the heat away.

I used 2 irons at once, a 30W and a 25W.  I applied both until it got hot enough, and then kept one on while applying fresh solder.

[Paladin69]

Would be really awesome if knc surprised us on the Neptune with the dual ability to also mine scrypt @ 300mh or something.

[vesperwillow]

So, ~3TH for 10,000$ in 'Q1/Q2' is currently up against ~2TH for $6,000 in may (And a sold out batch of 2TH for $6,000 in april), is this correct?

Plus these other ones like bitmain/antminer/etc

Sounds like you forgot to read the fine print on the Neptune rig info!!

Knc - (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)

We are not closer to the shipment yet so your comparison between 3TH/s and 2TH/s isn't valid, PERIOD!

It's still a worthy comparison. KNC already said Q1 shipment wasn't going to happen, so it'll be Q2. Most households won't support the machine running more than 3TH, so if you go by that metric then the Neptune is about $1100 more than the CT model (3k/th).

While the Neptune should likely do 5TH, it'll be only in homes with upgraded power panels or commercial spaces.

A better comparison would be who's shipping what right now without preorders, and sine December, Chinese manufacturers have been shipping tons of hashpower out. KNC hasn't. So, KNC 0, Others Many.

[ecliptic]

So, ~3TH for 10,000$ in 'Q1/Q2' is currently up against ~2TH for $6,000 in may (And a sold out batch of 2TH for $6,000 in april), is this correct?

Plus these other ones like bitmain/antminer/etc

Sounds like you forgot to read the fine print on the Neptune rig info!!

Knc - (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)

We are not closer to the shipment yet so your comparison between 3TH/s and 2TH/s isn't valid, PERIOD!

It's still a worthy comparison. KNC already said Q1 shipment wasn't going to happen, so it'll be Q2.

When was this?

[vesperwillow]

Be more specific with your query. lol

[ecliptic]

At what point did KNC's "Q1/Q2" ship date become, either implicitly or explicitly, a Q2 shipdate.

He said 'KNC said', i haven't seen them say anything on their website nor via email in quite a while now

[joeventura]

You can easily add two more plugs to your controller with basic soldering skills.

I hope to be making a video next week to show how its done.

I don't think they are basic skills. If you never soldered anything this procedure is quite difficult without ruining your currently working board.

I believe he was conveying that if you've soldered, it's a basic job.

This is true.

Its all about the right tools.

For this job you need a desoldering iron to clear the holes

Like this one:



(about $15 on Amazon)

and then once the holes are cleared, a low wattage pencil iron

like this:



NOT THIS:


Too big an iron, too hot and you damage the board.

Joe,
Do you have a source for the 2x5 pin IDC header to solder onto to the KNC controller board.
I ordered a bag from amazon that were supposed to be 2.5mm but they are 1mm. I thought I would ask you before I ordered from digikey.

I got mine on Ebay, ordered from this vendor:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Pcs-2x5-10-Pins-Box-Header-IDC-Male-Sockets-Straight-2-54mm-/140817653296?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c962de30

Problem is (and they tell you this in advance) it takes 30 days to get to you (in my case it took 35 days)

[vesperwillow]

At what point did KNC's "Q1/Q2" ship date become, either implicitly or explicitly, a Q2 shipdate.

He said 'KNC said', i haven't seen them say anything on their website nor via email in quite a while now

When Orama explicitly said they were still in the design phase for the chip, and it was later state 'early design phase'. This removes Q1 as a possibility simply due to the reality of design->test->verification->foundry->packaging->KNC

This was discussed several pages back.

[padrino]

At what point did KNC's "Q1/Q2" ship date become, either implicitly or explicitly, a Q2 shipdate.

He said 'KNC said', i haven't seen them say anything on their website nor via email in quite a while now

When Orama explicitly said they were still in the design phase for the chip, and it was later state 'early design phase'. This removes Q1 as a possibility simply due to the reality of design->test->verification->foundry->packaging->KNC

This was discussed several pages back.

I'm not trying to be an asshole but that does not mean "KNC said" as was stated earlier.. It's may or may not be logical based on where they are but it's not a statement they ever made, state the facts as they are..

[Slartybardfast]

Anyone who has had a refund on the neptune know if the 3-10 days starts at when you request a refund, or from the time when they state refund "in transit"?

[smoothrunnings]

So, ~3TH for 10,000$ in 'Q1/Q2' is currently up against ~2TH for $6,000 in may (And a sold out batch of 2TH for $6,000 in april), is this correct?

Plus these other ones like bitmain/antminer/etc

Sounds like you forgot to read the fine print on the Neptune rig info!!

Knc - (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)

We are not closer to the shipment yet so your comparison between 3TH/s and 2TH/s isn't valid, PERIOD!

It's still a worthy comparison. KNC already said Q1 shipment wasn't going to happen, so it'll be Q2. Most households won't support the machine running more than 3TH, so if you go by that metric then the Neptune is about $1100 more than the CT model (3k/th).

While the Neptune should likely do 5TH, it'll be only in homes with upgraded power panels or commercial spaces.

A better comparison would be who's shipping what right now without preorders, and sine December, Chinese manufacturers have been shipping tons of hashpower out. KNC hasn't. So, KNC 0, Others Many.

Show me where it says they will be shipping the Neptune in "Q1", I have only seen Q1/Q2 and it go to Q2. So having it say  Q1/Q2 doesn't mean it will actually ship in Q1 it means it MAY ship in Q1. So your argument isn't valid.

[Grix]

Show me where it says they will be shipping the Neptune in "Q1", I have only seen Q1/Q2 and it go to Q2. So having it say  Q1/Q2 doesn't mean it will actually ship in Q1 it means it MAY ship in Q1. So your argument isn't valid.

They said closed batch 1 will ship around a month before open batch 1 which will ship around a month before batch 2 which will ship Q2. So they have indirectly said that closed batch 1 order will ship at the latest april if everything goes as planned. Not quite Q1 but very close.

Also, there's this interview: http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-pre-orders-next-asic/
Where it's written: "The new boxes, which will ship “end of winter/early spring”, according to co-founder Sam Cole". Winter is defined as december to february, and I can't imagine "early spring" means crossing over to Q2. However he also said: "adding that all specifications given to CoinDesk are pre-release and subject to change."

[krampus]

At what point did KNC's "Q1/Q2" ship date become, either implicitly or explicitly, a Q2 shipdate.

He said 'KNC said', i haven't seen them say anything on their website nor via email in quite a while now

When Orama explicitly said they were still in the design phase for the chip, and it was later state 'early design phase'. This removes Q1 as a possibility simply due to the reality of design->test->verification->foundry->packaging->KNC

This was discussed several pages back.

I'm not trying to be an asshole but that does not mean "KNC said" as was stated earlier.. It's may or may not be logical based on where they are but it's not a statement they ever made, state the facts as they are..

Given the realities of the chip design and manufacturing process, you have exactly two options:
(1) You can accept the analysis that if the chip is in the early design process today, the finished Neptune miners won't actually arrive until sometime in Q2.
(2) You can accept that KnC is currently misleading people when they say "Q1/Q2".

There isn't a third option. "Hope that they can somehow cram the entire chip design and fabrication process into a month or two" isn't on the table.

[matthewh3]

Show me where it says they will be shipping the Neptune in "Q1", I have only seen Q1/Q2 and it go to Q2. So having it say  Q1/Q2 doesn't mean it will actually ship in Q1 it means it MAY ship in Q1. So your argument isn't valid.

They said closed batch 1 will ship around a month before open batch 1 which will ship around a month before batch 2 which will ship Q2. So they have indirectly said that closed batch 1 order will ship at the latest april if everything goes as planned. Not quite Q1 but very close.

Also, there's this interview: http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-pre-orders-next-asic/
Where it's written: "The new boxes, which will ship “end of winter/early spring”, according to co-founder Sam Cole". Winter is defined as december to february, and I can't imagine "early spring" means crossing over to Q2. However he also said: "adding that all specifications given to CoinDesk are pre-release and subject to change."

The vernal equinox and the first day of spring is on March the 20th in the northern hemisphere - http://www.almanac.com/content/first-day-spring-vernal-equinox - Q2 starts on the 1st of April.

[elasticband]

Now this is performance

[wpgdeez]

I hope we get some final specs soon so I know what to buy for PSU's!