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February 14, 2014, 01:06:54 PM
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again.  That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could.  So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better.  It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll.  You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now.  Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat.  I can see why Orama doesn't want to post.  So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far.  So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.

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February 14, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
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     ID         Speed
 431474 345,103.71 GH/s
 348870 342,438.93 GH/s
 269032 210,197.30 GH/s

#2 is Antminer
#3 is Alydian

but who is that new king on the block?   Cloudhashing?



The hashrate on their website has finally started to rise today 319.40 Th/s (up from 200ish).

So my guess about the guy who works for them selling his jupiters on ebay was a good read of something about to happen imminently.

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February 14, 2014, 01:43:18 PM
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again.  That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could.  So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better.  It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll.  You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now.  Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat.  I can see why Orama doesn't want to post.  So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far.  So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.
matt, knc has delivered to their customers...but i think the problem is based on their motto....under promise over deliver, which for the client they mostly  have....but for their own pockets, it is starting to appear as Under promise OVER DELIVER into THEIR POCKETS......and yes I as a customer got what I purchased, but I believe all KNC CUSTOMERS hope that now that KNC has made it big....they don't forget those initial foolish risk takers that funded this ONE OF project....

I think that is what all the gripe is here......I still have my orders.....we shall see for how long......I have met half my order's hashing speed already on my own....NOW....TODAY!.....so I wonder about delivery time seeing the BTC I am producing currently.
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February 14, 2014, 01:45:21 PM
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No is speculation that they will do that, all we have heard it's that they are building a mine for the purposes of providing either compensatory hash rate to their customers if Neptune is late or if said customers would prefer to switch from hardware customer to cloud customer. You are adding your own spin on the concept to make it appear in a negative light.

We'll need some input from Swedish speaking members, but this looks like video from the new datacentre.

With machines hashing already. Mining the bitcoins to compensate the Neptunes customers in July Biffa?

Not more than 5% though, of course.

http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

Med vänlig hälsning

"Server hall will be ready in about a month."

Again what is your agenda exactly?

Seriously, if they are hashing now and never delivered a Neptune to anyone yet or compensated anyone and still have all that pre-order money how greedy does a business need to be?

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February 14, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again.  That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could.  So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better.  It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll.  You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now.  Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat.  I can see why Orama doesn't want to post.  So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far.  So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.

if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite...

I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping -  it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!!  Still is!

A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware!

then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune..

and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting...

as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect.


so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU!


what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?!


..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!!


theyre so awesome you guys....


'Leave KnC Alooooooooone'


Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY!

Some days its 0.3!!

so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US...

how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit?

May?

June?

July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!!  

its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!!



In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig...

ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it...
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February 14, 2014, 01:55:24 PM
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Seriously, if they are hashing now and never delivered a Neptune to anyone yet or compensated anyone and still have all that pre-order money how greedy does a business need to be?

I think it's pretty clear they're going to be mining from here on out, far above any self-imposed 5% limit. They'll use some of the BTC to provide refunds, they have to, as they kept the door open for 66% of their new orders to be refunded. They'll need at least 66% of that money just to stay solvent with these new ventures, so they'll use the mined coins to pay off people, and to help keep their business running.

Afterall, it's nearly free datacenter equipment for them thanks to everyone who gave them gobs of cash from the beginning, and their systems were priced to be generous on the profit side.

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February 14, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
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Sorry for not included it, but a few pages back they said "We have NOT been making more 28nm modules" um, yeah ok...

So that's how they're doing it faster than a normal datacnter.  It's all just shelves to throw modules on with open windows and fans blowing ... and at that density... again where did they get that many modules? and it would kill them to sell is a couple of hundred? I don't think they'd miss them.....

KnC and others have got to admit that telling people to hold onto btc (or their choice of currency) as upgrade modules will soon be available, then no word for week after week after week, while there's also no word about the progress of Neptune development, then announce no, there will be no upgrade modules and oh, the Neptunes might be late so we're going to offer a "Plan B" as an alternative, isn't exactly "keeping your customer informed" and doesn't fall in the category of good public relations. It falls more in the category of customer and public relations BFL style. Then a video surfaces, doesn't matter when it was made, that drives the point home about upgrade modules being put into use at some point, and not by customers. Again, not good customer and public relations.

I'll say it one more time. The ONLY reason KNC told us to hold on to our coin was so we wouldn't spend any bitcoin on any other pre-orders at other companies because they knew they would announce their Neptune for sale...which they did. It's such an obvious tactic to me I saw it soon as no modules came around and then all of sudden a pre-order for another rig which cost a lot more. Derrrrrr.

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February 14, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
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I'll say it one more time. The ONLY reason KNC told us to hold on to our coin was so we wouldn't spend any bitcoin on any other pre-orders at other companies because they knew they would announce their Neptune for sale...which they did. It's such an obvious tactic to me I saw it soon as no modules came around and then all of sudden a pre-order for another rig which cost a lot more. Derrrrrr.

^-- Yup. A lot of people were teetering at the time, debating whether to go with the Chinese boxes which were shipping same-day, or to wait a few days for KNC announcement. They knew they could capture some of the market simply by dangling a carrot.

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February 14, 2014, 02:06:57 PM
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How much earlier than promised were Jupiters delivered?

None. They were late, even though they were using a tried and true 28nm process. 20nm is brand new cutting edge process. No way is 20nm going to be early.

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February 14, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
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^ This

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February 14, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
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if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite...

I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping -  it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!!  Still is!

A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware!

then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune..

and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting...

as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect.


so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU!


what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?!


..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!!


theyre so awesome you guys....


'Leave KnC Alooooooooone'


Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY!

Some days its 0.3!!

so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US...

how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit?

May?

June?

July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!!  

its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!!



In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig...

ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it...

Agree 1000%

This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again.  That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could.  So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better.  It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll.  You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now.  Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat.  I can see why Orama doesn't want to post.  So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far.  So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.

On the contrary, I had big orders with Jupiter and again with Neptune.  THEY WOULD NOT EXIST IF WE HAD NOT FUNDED THEIR PREORDER PRODUCTS.
If our assumptions re their "datorhall" and Neptune is not what is actually happening, then they need to do a considerably better job communicating.  Instead we can only conclude O'rama is not posting because Sam and Andreas have turned into greedy assholes.  What they are doing is unconscionable.

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February 14, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
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Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation?

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February 14, 2014, 02:36:37 PM
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Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation?
Naw, he's most probably been hocking cloud hashing contracts to noobs in Berlin (http://insidebitcoins.de/en/). I bet you Neptune buyers didn't even know you were the gold sponsors of that event?  Grin

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February 14, 2014, 02:37:24 PM
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heh check this out..man they have the balls don't they


imho these 1000 units if I read right are refunds imho

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-76

ie Neptunes back on sale heh sorta

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I don't get it. How can they still be selling at the same price? Wasn't it $10k weeks and weeks ago? Or they are all based on delivery times which is a complete mystery to everyone.

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February 14, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
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Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation?

Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation Humiliation?

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February 14, 2014, 02:40:41 PM
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Update:

All,
As we are getting closer to the launch date of Neptune. We are able to release more of the products as we are still on track. So today there are now 1000 more products in the shop. This is the second half batch two and will ship alongside the first half.
This batch will also be covered by our online hashing (Plan B), if we are late we will simply give you a choice of converting to our online hosted hashing of 3TH from our facilities if you wish to
Thanks

Neptune here, referral disclaimer Smiley

Still 999 in stock.

Why people are not doing massive refunds is baffling to me.

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February 14, 2014, 02:41:00 PM
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Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation?
Naw, he's most probably been hocking cloud hashing contracts to noobs in Berlin (http://insidebitcoins.de/en/). I bet you Neptune buyers didn't even know you were the gold sponsors of that event?  Grin

i see Sams old buddy Josh Zerlan was in attendance

I dont see Alex 'will tell lies for ladies size T-shirts' Oramas name there though


BKminer - no announcements, no apologies, no discounts, no consideration at all - they say greed turns ppl weird.

Joeventura/Opentoe - because they piss people about wrt refunds as well, one guy waited over 29 business days to get  his 2 neps refunded. im on day 12!
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February 14, 2014, 02:49:05 PM
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Orama has been MIA for a week. Maybe vacation?
Naw, he's most probably been hocking cloud hashing contracts to noobs in Berlin (http://insidebitcoins.de/en/). I bet you Neptune buyers didn't even know you were the gold sponsors of that event?  Grin

i see Sams old buddy Josh Zerlan was in attendance
Prophetic!

From twitter
Джош (BFL) и Андреас (KnC) отвечают на вопросы о будущем майнинга. Будущее им видится в облаках. Smiley #InsideBitcoins #bitcoinconf #btcsec
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Josh (BFL) and Andreas (KnC) answer questions about the future of Meiningen. Future they see in the clouds. Smiley # InsideBitcoins # bitcoinconf # btcsec

BFF!

P.S. You know you want to see that photo again, right about now:



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BKminer - no announcements, no apologies, no discounts, no consideration at all - they say greed turns ppl weird.


Yeah, I've had friend that got very wealthy during the first few Internet bubbles and it's like they don't even know you anymore. So after seeing the video...it figures.  I do have an RMA going for an upgrade board that died...I guess they can spare one board for my RMA

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February 14, 2014, 03:11:44 PM
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This thread is getting full of FUD posted by the same few accounts over and over again.  That leads me to believe that they are either shills for another manufacture or they couldn't afford to put money down on Neptunes but wish they could.  So they want KNC to underdeliver, and do bad, so that they feel better.  It's one thing to have a strong opinion and want to share it, but to keep spamming it and shout down anyone with a positive view just makes you a troll.  You know who you are and you can pipe down a bit now.  Then, if you are correct you can quote your post and gloat.  I can see why Orama doesn't want to post.  So far KNC has been the best bitcoin ASIC manufacture so far.  So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt to deliver until proven otherwise.

if you're referring to me, you dont have to be scared, i dont bite...

I bought, paid for 2 jupiters one october rig for 10k plus extortionate shipping -  it was 3 weeks late and a piece of shit!!  Still is!

A november rig that was 5k plus slightly more extortionate shipping, it was also late but a pretty good piece of hardware!

then i paid 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping for a customer humiliation deal Neptune..

and a further 10k plus EVEN MORE extortionate shipping, like they just cant get enough, for a B2 neptune which i requested a refund for on the 2nd of February. still waiting...

as for being a shill for ANY of these shitcunt financial rapists, im proud to announce i have way to much integrity & self-respect.


so that blows all your half-assed theories right out the window, and finally if its FUD you want to discuss i think they are doing and have been doing a mighty fine job on their own since their 2 fraggles decided it was finally time to STFU!


what a difference a spineless gimp or two makes, eh?!


..... Oh and hahahahahahahaLOLOLOLOLl HAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaahahahahaha @ that shit i highlighted in red!!!


theyre so awesome you guys....


'Leave KnC Alooooooooone'


Edit2Add - i am now at 2.3Th despite KnC refusing to sell hardware they have in stock and i barely make 0.5btc per day TODAY!

Some days its 0.3!!

so tell me what our 3Th rigs are gunna be worth in march when it aint gonna be working for US...

how about in April, when theyre still hashing away with it and we aint got shit?

May?

June?

July the 1st when they kindly offer the option of cloud contract at extortionate rate vs wait til fk knows when to get ur hardware that they couldve EASILY sent to us in january in the form of 3 - 4 jupiters??!!  

its not as if we havent fkn paid them yet!!



In case anyone missed it, im keeping my Day 1 'thanks for funding our entire operation now fuck you, MwaHaHaa' rig...

ive never cloud-hashed before, cant say im looking fwd to it...

Have you even seen the current sales prices of Jupiter's on eBay and the current bitcoin price.  Did you not know that KNC is doing bitcoin refunds on Neptunes.  That's currently about a 5.5BTC profit for batch 1a customers in getting a refund.  With all that bitcoin profit to make I don't really see your problem.  Haters gonna hate I suppose  Roll Eyes

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