Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[raskul]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

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[Phoenix1969]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
Even the purchase contract says non-refundable on Titan.
No Consumer Judge advocate would grant you a refund after reading the purchase agreement and TOS; and if by some wild chance he did, it would be too late because Titans will have shipped before you got anything accomplished on that, and you'd be sitting there with a Titan before you even went to court.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...  

[raskul]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...  

I wouldn't buy a chicken in the basket from KnC.. nevermind a shitcoin rig. 

[Phoenix1969]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...   

I wouldn't buy a chicken in the basket from KnC.. nevermind a shitcoin rig. 

So, you're just here to troll then? Aaaah, I see.

[raskul]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...   

I wouldn't buy a chicken in the basket from KnC.. nevermind a shitcoin rig. 

So, you're just here to troll then? Aaaah, I see.

and... you have an active order with KnC?
by your (double) standards everyone who comments in this thread, who does not give money to KnC are trolls?

OK. 

[joeventura]

while on the the topic of KnC scrypt rig - 'Titan'
these are on the market 1st May...
http://www.innosilicon.com/A2.htm

Where can they be ordered?

Price?

[Phoenix1969]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...  

I wouldn't buy a chicken in the basket from KnC.. nevermind a shitcoin rig.  

So, you're just here to troll then? Aaaah, I see.

and... you have an active order with KnC?
by your (double) standards everyone who comments in this thread, who does not give money to KnC are trolls?

OK.  

Double standards?
I DO have active order(s) with KNC.  Not all of them got refunded. I still have 2 of the 5 Neptunes I ordered coming here.

So it looks like you are the one with double-standards here.
You don't even have an order left, so face it... congratulations... you're officially a troll.

[Collider]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
Even the purchase contract says non-refundable on Titan.
No Consumer Judge advocate would grant you a refund after reading the purchase agreement and TOS; and if by some wild chance he did, it would be too late because Titans will have shipped before you got anything accomplished on that, and you'd be sitting there with a Titan before you even went to court.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...  

The only one relying on personal attacks to try and prove anything is you.

If you meant a specific transaction where Bitcoin was the payment vehicle, this should have been stated more clearly.

while on the the topic of KnC scrypt rig - 'Titan'
these are on the market 1st May...
http://www.innosilicon.com/A2.htm

Where can they be ordered?

Price?

@topic Inosilicon A2 "Terminator"

Pcfli will be selling the 72MH version of a miner based on this chip, shipping May 20-25th

Pricing will probably at first be around 10k but by the time KnC might ship (in~3-6months?) these will be dirt-cheap.

[raskul]

while on the the topic of KnC scrypt rig - 'Titan'
these are on the market 1st May...
http://www.innosilicon.com/A2.htm

Where can they be ordered?

Price?

seemingly jtminer have partnered with innosilicon and they have them, but they are not showing on their web page yet.

i noticed it from this group buy (which is a tad overpriced) - and i've verified it with innosilicon via email - which you can read in the thread;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577534.msg6306391#msg6306391

[Phoenix1969]

Bitcoin purchases are irreversible, no matter what your local laws are.

Are you seriously arguing that from a legal standpoint, normal contract/consumer protection laws are nonexistant because the payment vehicle was Bitcoin?

this is why he thinks he can get away with his continual scams. he's done his research.

You make me laugh...   idiot. Your personal attacks are weak and wrong in so many ways.
Even the purchase contract says non-refundable on Titan.
No Consumer Judge advocate would grant you a refund after reading the purchase agreement and TOS; and if by some wild chance he did, it would be too late because Titans will have shipped before you got anything accomplished on that, and you'd be sitting there with a Titan before you even went to court.
And, that doesn't change the FACT Bitcoin transactions ARE IRREVERSIBLE.
Go ahead...  refund a Titan, call all the authorities... let's see you make them refund one.
Prove me wrong...  

The only one relying on personal attacks to try and prove anything is you.

If you meant a specific transaction where Bitcoin was the payment vehicle, this should have been stated more clearly.

while on the the topic of KnC scrypt rig - 'Titan'
these are on the market 1st May...
http://www.innosilicon.com/A2.htm

Where can they be ordered?

Price?

@topic Inosilicon A2 "Terminator"

Pcfli will be selling the 72MH version of a miner based on this chip, shipping May 20-25th

Pricing will probably at first be around 10k but by the time KnC might ship (in~3-6months?) these will be dirt-cheap.

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, they did not accept bank transfers for them; unless you converted a Neptune purchase... in which case, the "upgrade" was also stated non-refundable.

[Collider]

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, unless you converted a Neptune purchase.

Yes but not every Bitcoin order is a Titan. Semantics matter.

Anyway, back @ topic, as the Innosilicon A2 already exists, and will be mass produced til kingdom come, by the time people get their Titan, it will be obsolete.

Therefore i would advise anyone against ordering one, even if it is only due to the miserable pre-order conditions.

KnC really has enough money to fund their R&D.

[Phoenix1969]

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, unless you converted a Neptune purchase.

Yes but not every Bitcoin order is a Titan. Semantics matter.

They offered refunds on Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury, but not Titan.
It's not "semantics", it's reality.

... and how well did CPL's protect BFL customers?.... a year and a half later... here we are...
Anyone enjoying their Monarch conversion yet? How about a Monarch refund?
Ask Searing about it... he'll tell ya how it really is, heh.

[xstr8guy]

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, unless you converted a Neptune purchase.

Yes but not every Bitcoin order is a Titan. Semantics matter.

They offered refunds on Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury, but not Titan.
It's not "semantics", it's reality.

... and how well did CPL's protect BFL customers?.... a year and a half later... here we are...
Anyone enjoying their Monarch conversion yet? How about a Monarch refund?
Ask Searing about it... he'll tell ya how it really is, heh.

What is CPL?  Monarchs were offered for sale in August.  It hasn't been a year and a half... yet.

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[Phoenix1969]

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, unless you converted a Neptune purchase.

Yes but not every Bitcoin order is a Titan. Semantics matter.

They offered refunds on Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury, but not Titan.
It's not "semantics", it's reality.

... and how well did CPL's protect BFL customers?.... a year and a half later... here we are...
Anyone enjoying their Monarch conversion yet? How about a Monarch refund?
Ask Searing about it... he'll tell ya how it really is, heh.

What is CPL?  Monarchs were offered for sale in August.  It hasn't been a year and a half... yet.

Many who ordered machines from BFL were duped into "converting" their extremely late machines(Due over a year ago), into Monarch orders, which were due in December Janruary February, and are still empty handed on either equipment, or a refund.
And not a single claim has made it through the court system yet.
Did you really not know that?

[Meizirkki]

Many who ordered machines from BFL were duped into "converting" their extremely late machines(Due over a year ago), into Monarch orders, which were due in December Janruary February, and are still empty handed on either equipment, or a refund.
And not a single claim has made it through the court system yet.
Did you really not know that?

It should be a different story in scandinavia, we'll see what happens to KnC

[s1gs3gv]

Every Titan order is in Bitcoin, they did not accept bank transfers for them; unless you converted a Neptune purchase…

This statement is false. I know at least one person who paid by bank transfer.

[Xialla]

ahh, where is core member of KnC fanclub, mighty Bitcoinorama now?.) ahh, got it, they don't need him anymore, since datacenter running on chips (founded by customers) is already established.

at least, you can check these lovely pictures and fap during network protection statement:







tadaa.)

[s1gs3gv]

To the moon (BTC difficulty) !