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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2033349 times)
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December 17, 2013, 12:56:36 PM
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Anybody want to do the calculations to determine the list of addresses that benefited from his transaction fee and how much each of them got and post it here.  Seems like a good thing for the guy that goofed to do.  I don't feel like figuring it out, but if he'll show me, if and how much I got, I'll send it back.
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December 17, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
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Does the number of p2pool shares found include deads and orphans?

In any case, it sounds like what you're measuring is the luck in creating blocks vs. the luck in creating shares... At least, that's what you're measuring if you're including all the deads and orphans. If you're not including the deads and orphans, then your hash estimate is too low.

Is it even possible to measure deads and orphans? Not all of the network is necessarily going to see all of them...

good point - I'm not the one that quotes that +12% number, but that's about what the DOA+orphan rate is on the network that is also possibly viable blocks.

Does anyone know how p2pool.info does it?
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December 17, 2013, 04:47:07 PM
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Does the number of p2pool shares found include deads and orphans?

In any case, it sounds like what you're measuring is the luck in creating blocks vs. the luck in creating shares... At least, that's what you're measuring if you're including all the deads and orphans. If you're not including the deads and orphans, then your hash estimate is too low.

Is it even possible to measure deads and orphans? Not all of the network is necessarily going to see all of them...

good point - I'm not the one that quotes that +12% number, but that's about what the DOA+orphan rate is on the network that is also possibly viable blocks.

Does anyone know how p2pool.info does it?

A complete explaination is somewhere around page 100-120 I think Smiley

In a nutshell, the luck calculation is a comparison of the number of blocks that were actually found vs the number of blocks that should have been found (based on the pool's hashrate over time as reported by p2pool, itself).  When more blocks were found than were expected, luck is > 100% and vice versa.

Orphaned blocks are included in the count of found blocks because a block being orphaned or not has nothing to do with the mathematics of block finding probability and I wanted "100% luck" to equal "normal".  Certainly having blocks get orphaned is unlucky, but it's bad luck related to something different than the odds of finding a valid block.

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December 17, 2013, 05:06:06 PM
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Anybody want to do the calculations to determine the list of addresses that benefited from his transaction fee and how much each of them got and post it here.  Seems like a good thing for the guy that goofed to do.  I don't feel like figuring it out, but if he'll show me, if and how much I got, I'll send it back.

Here is the list  Grin

Find your address, next to it the full reward you received and last on the line the coins you got out of the erroneous transaction (rounded down to the next satoshi  Tongue

Above the list is the link to the original transaction ...

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Transaction:        https://blockchain.info/tx/a2d1e19331f4ea274079c94382560bbb4f32165ed647a33adad651a604e7caa2               
Total Input        20.199                       
Total Output        0.05271705                       
Fees               20.14628295                       


Address                                       Reward      from err. fee       
169kP3iVQPXn26rmb6WLvtSRA8izrrCa7z        4.99917856        2.22812104
146197ntzrBT41DDQRrB2STBb19dw7ct2F        4.12685989        1.83933085
1NVEG1caKo3Y4Qy2HFJJ2zQsdxER3SLB3B        0.83496966        0.37214383
18H22WEBhis2QRTbSHMdMrMy5dNuPKThGi        0.77359827        0.34479076
17HA1G9R4WMbBRQyCqXKiijZi1mhqEj5sD        0.77251975        0.34431006
14brPwTZA8jB3AVRpMKhvLYFQGr5GJGRMN        0.76488438        0.34090700
194XYRcBfkqm3di1XA8GPdGszCyp3UAaGJ        0.72828360        0.32459413
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1HHEFq2CEHi5aiGwVh2Lh5nz6bP3ZWRx5n        0.59763178        0.26636294
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1Pk6dqko1FqGWzNW1EsUabRN2ev69n68aj        0.01036023        0.00461752
1K7VwkvVkSP4S64Sd2JbF1eyUXz6HuKRaq        0.01011219        0.00450697
1DzdF3PPtK9qmitEELEqWKUtV4trMnGiA3        0.01000561        0.00445947
15bCvPPwepk4fp7UMuqVLmg4dTLRLuZpYP        0.00998595        0.00445071
1CKBQE3xRzeLa8QSgTYvNN8UpNqx5JKnKq        0.00995075        0.00443502
1Ck9bj5g1wPqC7TEUjkuRgLE7wVu7hknrK        0.00990913        0.00441647
1BQjcJn9bdJVcyMzNXgQ9FzBvHrQbmsxEE        0.00978767        0.00436233
1PTquQ1uJ6X657BzX5U9h8DUevMEgF9Vxn        0.00974974        0.00434543
1L7o39HpaYxUmBt2n3yv1F6Tcyr5USoPER        0.00971872        0.00433160
1MGD4BZVQZhGVoHvJxkuqciYPsEcYjPVUV        0.00971174        0.00432849
1DkTwcz5TGKoyvvn7AuDNrgDqtLd9Mxf6S        0.00966103        0.00430589
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1BNNnpmV2YedsoxzP9W2xmmnQViGt6L15j        0.00939517        0.00418740
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1HBVcwBBrHb4pzkWLrZkMboc62mPRNZtFN        0.00933563        0.00416086
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1H4ohtbtTnQ8e7jrAB4DyoiwYahbutTzV9        0.00916941        0.00408678
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1Rav3nkMayCijuhzcYemMiPYsvcaiwHni        0.00915094        0.00407855
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17xaMCKwPJxo6pHSc64j2DnDCmDgc1gaD2 (DL Networks )        0.00890819        0.00397035
1KcyEG4VmHSv3U2ZnBYGbzurhFiNyxGaEr        0.00890698        0.00396981
1BHJ8EvuQLmxAKacgQamJYcW1kmiAYRTp9        0.00889223        0.00396324
1yR2kFACtfzqdZk8i4Xn6j2az3vnyLMs3        0.00886782        0.00395236
1E5YAZ2YS2B4ZSgYkE3X9VuDDmPKLqJnX9        0.00885795        0.00394796
1EEJQxJ4N4mwWoYsSzmPSm3Fk2Ln3DZkuZ        0.00885039        0.00394459
18nPnQH2GPgKZtJmXszJrM4hiZR2muspiQ        0.00884424        0.00394185
1rmxLvKgPyGjgxsFHBHJoCVj51LHfc9oK        0.00884364        0.00394158
13YQRDnVcDwEU4euW1rV7Dr22nSrrgghG5        0.00883138        0.00393612
19betjvwukr9JdYjXj7fhrtFh9ME3QUP7e        0.00879426        0.00391957
1JaQsQeFX3jmCVNHWfrwpX5BZeCdaWz4Bt        0.00876001        0.00390431
18zPEDi8YgkBDZCxcTPNaygEGCaVxkTX1L        0.00874920        0.00389949
1771rKYRkhQ2t5X1HQ8a9T8DCMEAfTQcxj        0.00874758        0.00389877
15GzM24gRpNHqPvLJGqWkGMwzQzf8giqJf        0.00873747        0.00389426
1L8G1qMGA4M6EdcbQfWmD35butE8k1Ytu2        0.00870207        0.00387849
1ynXmHMAtSYYTUdx1gM5fe11sqzaRVTNN        0.00868343        0.00387018
1GaNi2zdpP2243fAGNM96B41Bj1nvgaeKF        0.00864945        0.00385503
1BdTuu7fkAvhnbqCjhhmDcwXGMBWpPZssD        0.00862885        0.00384585
1HEo9JbLDDB12eESqhCDMZmqzzVGdL6uor        0.00852132        0.00379793
1LWAaxdURSrCDydYiD769yN3AX5w2gzgpR        0.00842256        0.00375391
12W8yWLqFVGmWN7CVmRLXP7H6756jC9ick        0.00840149        0.00374452
18eJH4XiW9sSLyKFYJ3KVEJJ8Y3giudo6s        0.00835427        0.00372347
19uzKuwLsjiXwNiuQA7barSkAkRzF21xgd        0.00833094        0.00371307
1Hfk91AupMWBDJXsNNfX8PCdHYrjB73Us7        0.00818496        0.00364801
1M4ZadBMR3UkxXSQtqNydaGxgC7Qzu6hRe        0.00807822        0.00360044
1DT64QpM1FdjtLy13cjaZ1jU4mv24DuRJA        0.00807398        0.00359855
12VFR1LakExmXvZjigPK8r6o4g1KHRsWGi        0.00800242        0.00356665
                               
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December 17, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
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Anybody want to do the calculations to determine the list of addresses that benefited from his transaction fee and how much each of them got and post it here.  Seems like a good thing for the guy that goofed to do.  I don't feel like figuring it out, but if he'll show me, if and how much I got, I'll send it back.

Here is the list  Grin

Find your address, next to it the full reward you received and last on the line the coins you got out of the erroneous transaction (rounded down to the next satoshi  Tongue

Above the list is the link to the original transaction ...

...

Ok, for what it's worth I refunded my .012... amount.
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December 17, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
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It's that "hashrate over time as reported by p2pool, itself" that I'm asking about. This itself is, as I understand it, a calculated figure.

This answer raises another question, though. What's the "over time"? Is the time period that the hashrate was calculated over the same as the time period the number of blocks were counted over?

I guess the source code of p2pool would be the place to find the answers?

Both p2pool.info and p2pool, itself are open source, so yes, you can look at the code if you are curious. about the specifics

I don't know for sure how p2pool calculates pool hashrate for sure (forrestv will have to comment), but I generally understand it to be based on the number shares being found and I think it also includes some kind of adjustment to include DOA/orphaned shares as well.

p2pool.info collects and stores the hashrate of p2pool generally every 5 minutes. When a block is found, those 5 minute hashrate data points are used allong with the block's difficulty to calculate the luck of that "round".  Then, the luck of individual blocks are aggregated to come up with the 7, 30, and 90 day luck statistics.

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December 17, 2013, 06:03:43 PM
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If all of a sudden the network started finding lots of non-block-winning shares, luck would fall. If all of a sudden the network found fewer non-block-winning shares (but the same number of blocks), luck would rise.

Yes. This is why the hashrate graph shown in p2pool.info is "bumpy".  Hashrate is not really changing that much--it's mostly just luck/variance.

By the way, this is a limitation of all pools.  No pool knows how much hashing is actually being done by its miners.  Pools only knows what shares are being submitted then they estimate hashrates based on those submitted shares (and then they calculate luck based on those estimated hashrates).  Over a long enough period of time, the inherent share-finding-variance evens out.  So I personally have fairly high confidence that the 90 day luck number, in particular, is reasonably accurate and that the pool really did find about 18% more blocks in the last 90 days than it "should have".  Maybe the real number is 17% or 19%, but it's pretty close.

P.S.  I have no idea how p2pool knows the global DOA/stale rate, but it clearly does (or thinks it does) since it is displayed in the console output and is directly used to calculate efficiency.

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December 17, 2013, 06:30:10 PM
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Been trying to set up a few P2Pool nodes for mining alt-coins and I have some very basic questions that I can't seem to find the answers for. Hoping someone can chime in and help:

1. My first P2PNode is a private node and has the miner fee set to 2% (w/0.5% donation). I have a few miners mining for several hours and several blocks have been found, with payouts going to the miners; however, I have yet to see a payout to the payout address (current payout reads: 0).  Is this normal?  I thought 2% of each miner's payout would arrive at my set default payout address.

2. My 2nd P2PNode has miner fee set to 0%.  In this node, I should never see any payout to the default address (unless someone is mining with an invalid address), correct?

My concern is mainly with node #1 as why why I'm not seeing a payout at the default address. Does P2Pool payout the mining fee with every block found?  Or does it queue it up and send it later?

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December 17, 2013, 06:30:35 PM
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just to put my money where my mouth is  Wink  my share of the erroneous fee is on its way back !

https://blockchain.info/tx/c39af28cb3acb6b1f858a4348665200d0c7d5bfe587b46614840da1f9bc8985a

btw I am 1BCnzg9zxrFJonTvvtEJTY63AqaHzRLV9g on the above list ... but sent from another address
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December 17, 2013, 06:59:47 PM
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Been trying to set up a few P2Pool nodes for mining alt-coins and I have some very basic questions that I can't seem to find the answers for. Hoping someone can chime in and help:

1. My first P2PNode is a private node and has the miner fee set to 2% (w/0.5% donation). I have a few miners mining for several hours and several blocks have been found, with payouts going to the miners; however, I have yet to see a payout to the payout address (current payout reads: 0).  Is this normal?  I thought 2% of each miner's payout would arrive at my set default payout address.

2. My 2nd P2PNode has miner fee set to 0%.  In this node, I should never see any payout to the default address (unless someone is mining with an invalid address), correct?

My concern is mainly with node #1 as why why I'm not seeing a payout at the default address. Does P2Pool payout the mining fee with every block found?  Or does it queue it up and send it later?

p2pool can't pay fractions of a share, so the way it handles fees is that a 2% fee is that 2% of shares found by miners will be reassigned from the miner address to the node's address (randomly).  Because it is random, it will work out to 2% over the long term, but you won't see a consistent payment on a block by block basis unless you have a high enough hashrate that you're finding 100s of shares per block.

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December 17, 2013, 09:40:56 PM
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P.S.  I have no idea how p2pool knows the global DOA/stale rate, but it clearly does (or thinks it does) since it is displayed in the console output and is directly used to calculate efficiency.

I guess this is what to look at next.... Or just let my curiosity on this one go. Smiley

Each P2Pool share has a flag for whether the node has an as-of-yet-uncounted orphan share. When computing the total hash rate, each share with that flag set is counted twice.

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December 17, 2013, 11:10:43 PM
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Not sure where else to ask this... but has anyone wrote a guide for p2pool and AM Blades/Cubes?  I assume I will need to use bfgminer?  I haven't seen much on how to get that to work with the Cube either...

Sorry if this has been posted already, but I couldn't Google worth a damn on this topic. 
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December 18, 2013, 12:32:36 AM
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p2pool can't pay fractions of a share, so the way it handles fees is that a 2% fee is that 2% of shares found by miners will be reassigned from the miner address to the node's address (randomly).  Because it is random, it will work out to 2% over the long term, but you won't see a consistent payment on a block by block basis unless you have a high enough hashrate that you're finding 100s of shares per block.

Makes sense! Thank you for the clarification.. so does it make sense for a miner to even mine on a node if he cannot hash fast enough to at least find one share per block?  I guess that miner would never get paid by p2pool if he never finds a share (due to a low hashrate)?

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December 18, 2013, 01:36:06 AM
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p2pool can't pay fractions of a share, so the way it handles fees is that a 2% fee is that 2% of shares found by miners will be reassigned from the miner address to the node's address (randomly).  Because it is random, it will work out to 2% over the long term, but you won't see a consistent payment on a block by block basis unless you have a high enough hashrate that you're finding 100s of shares per block.

Makes sense! Thank you for the clarification.. so does it make sense for a miner to even mine on a node if he cannot hash fast enough to at least find one share per block?  I guess that miner would never get paid by p2pool if he never finds a share (due to a low hashrate)?

If you don't find shares very often, you won't always get a payment with every block.  When you do find a share, you'll get paid for the next several blocks (the number of blocks depends on how quickly they come, p2pool uses is PPLNS).  In the long run, it evens out, but the variability in payments (i.e. variance) can be very frustrating.  If that sort of thing seems like it would frustrate you, then don't mine on p2pool.  I, personally, wouldn't like the level of variance if my hashrate was only getting me 1 share every 12-24 hours (or worse).

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December 18, 2013, 06:25:46 AM
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Dear friends!
Could anybody explain this situation?

Hi,

I've just upgrared from version 13.3 to version 13.4 by replacing files in the program folder.

Immedaitely after upgrading current payout was reduced from ~1.2 to ~0.7LTC

http://i01.overclockers.ru/c3a4e04ba7baeac93b85adeaff0be886/mertamqqvnojf5bg.gif
2.7 MH/s, GMT+06

Why this happen? It must not reduce payout immediately, because payout is determined by previsously mined shares...

Thank you!

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After 5 hours of mining:

http://i01.overclockers.ru/c3a4e04ba7baeac93b85adeaff0be886/hwrnrp1c4lnymb4g.gif

No shares found:

Code:
2013-12-16 13:28:02.682000 P2Pool: 17335 shares in chain (17339 verified/17339 total) Peers: 8 (1 incoming)
2013-12-16 13:28:02.682000  Local: 2830kH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~4.1% (2-7%) Expected time to share: 1.4 hours
2013-12-16 13:28:02.682000  Shares: 0 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ??? Efficiency: ??? Current payout: 0.0511 LTC
2013-12-16 13:28:02.682000  Pool: 1357MH/s Stale rate: 16.1% Expected time to block: 2.7 hours
2013-12-16 13:28:03.322000 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(c44ec31007ae222244e8e9b9d89a4625e49c635ea83d302437656d33197ad4da) < height(5084f0f73a84662a3fc8e56e804513adf0e376e6470499dfb169301c95f49591) or 1b152d9a != 1b152d9a'! Jumping from 12451e3b to c3be3583!
2013-12-16 13:28:03.354000 New work for worker! Difficulty: 0.000808 Share difficulty: 3.350757 Total block value: 50.000000 LTC including 0 transactions
2013-12-16 13:28:03.385000 New work for worker! Difficulty: 0.000808 Share difficulty: 3.350757 Total block value: 50.000000 LTC including 2 transactions

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December 18, 2013, 11:17:59 AM
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Is there any graph of share minimum difficulty over time?  In theory, if larger miners started using lower difficulty shares, then the minimum share difficulty would increase.

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December 18, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
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Is there any graph of share minimum difficulty over time?  In theory, if larger miners started using lower difficulty shares, then the minimum share difficulty would increase.
No (to the theory)

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December 18, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
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I am getting a high amount of orphans since upgrading Litecoin to 8.6.1 and p2pool to 13.4 mining Litecoins.

Shares: 12 total (8 orphaned, 1 dead) Efficiency: 31.46% running ~850kh/s

My other pool installation (not upgraded) running only 300kh/s is currently showing a reward payout amount of ~0.12LTC where my higher upgraded pool is zero.

Is anyone seeing this? or is this just normal variance?

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December 18, 2013, 04:46:56 PM
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Is there any graph of share minimum difficulty over time?  In theory, if larger miners started using lower difficulty shares, then the minimum share difficulty would increase.
No (to the theory)
Yes (to the theory)

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December 18, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
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Is anyone seeing this? or is this just normal variance?
Yes, I also meet the similar condition (look at the previous page). The client 13.4 does not function properly and nobody here tempts to explain why. Do not use it.
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