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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2032456 times)
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June 17, 2014, 12:19:19 AM
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What I'm unable to figure out, and nobody gets what I'm asking, is if blocks are discovered by the pool without me finding a share during that "round", since as far as p2pool is concerned I didn't do anything. Do I just lose out in the long run, or does it somehow magically average out over the course of a month I'll get comparable payouts from a centralized pool in the long run?


Yes, it evens out in the long-run. While you may not get paid for every block found, there will be times when you get over-paid. I myself (with 10GHash/s) just went about a month with no pay-outs. This past week, I was paid 7.36311mBTC (including a donation due to the Ghash.io situation).

Also frustrating is when you find a share, but the pool does not find a block within 3 days Tongue


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June 17, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):

To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2

(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)

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Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c

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June 17, 2014, 01:30:57 AM
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):

To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2

(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)

M


Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c

Thanks!

I almost have 0.1 BTC worth! Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 09:43:19 AM
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Bitcoin core 0.9.2 now available https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655359.0;topicseen tested with p2pool

Upgrade by shutting down Bitcoin core, install the new one, start and p2pool will reconnect to the new build.

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June 17, 2014, 11:55:44 AM
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):

To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2

(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)

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Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c

Thanks!

I almost have 0.1 BTC worth! Smiley

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June 17, 2014, 02:40:10 PM
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Hey folks!

It has taken a little longer then expected, but I'm getting close to releasing a p2pool.info "like" service on my node.

Since I had to start from scratch things are a little different, but we added in some cool stats that were not previously available...

I started our data collectors on June 11th, here is a preview of the P2Pool graph including hashrate, doa, and # of miners:



I know this is a stretch, but I asked for historical blocks and got them so here goes....

Does anyone have historical hashrate data for p2pool?

Ideally I'm looking for the following:

UTC Timestamp
Global Rate
Global Non-stale Rate
Number of Miners

Our collectors run every minute, so that would be the ideal data interval.

Regardless, I'll be working towards getting this live (beta) this week...



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June 17, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
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Hey folks!

It has taken a little longer then expected, but I'm getting close to releasing a p2pool.info "like" service on my node.

Since I had to start from scratch things are a little different, but we added in some cool stats that were not previously available...

I started our data collectors on June 11th, here is a preview of the P2Pool graph including hashrate, doa, and # of miners:



I know this is a stretch, but I asked for historical blocks and got them so here goes....

Does anyone have historical hashrate data for p2pool?

Ideally I'm looking for the following:

UTC Timestamp
Global Rate
Global Non-stale Rate
Number of Miners

Our collectors run every minute, so that would be the ideal data interval.

Regardless, I'll be working towards getting this live (beta) this week...



While that would be excellent, I doubt anybody's got that kind of information available (other than the owner of p2pool.info).  You'd need someone who's had a node running since the beginning, and who has kept their logs the entire time so you could scrape through them.  Unless p2pool.info comes back, I think the historical stuff is likely lost Sad

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June 17, 2014, 03:08:13 PM
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Hi guys could you list our p2pool in your directory?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655472.msg7363187
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June 17, 2014, 03:56:43 PM
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):

To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2

(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)

M


Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c

Thanks!

I almost have 0.1 BTC worth! Smiley

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A few more 0dd3b50ead7d2284928fa2f1caad29488b581d9f7208b1bf05006a5c8bb2d171

BTW where are you selling these? I did not know there was even a market till I saw you were collecting them.

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June 17, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
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Updated list to include FSC (fusioncoin):

To help other p2pool ops that may be interested in sharing their merged mining income, I have dedicated addresses you can send to that I'll then convert to BTC and feed back into the pool:

DVC: 1f56VqR9ajX3K42qSaDezvKXFmruSDg1B
IXC: xaNQ54gxowcwHyxqGtFM4vwCfS84V6fmKF
NMC: N1XhWNmvGhFL145zmQGQv7Vug6mThNh1iQ
I0C: jMDtRnMAk2WxaoAw8HUceMaxPPqAuZ8AEN
FSC: Fjhv8Sk8iC7AF76CTJbKo1zkHLUbTTTBs2

(I haven't given up on this yet... despite the fact that it doesn't seem be going anywhere.)

M


Some FSC coming your way. TXID cc17467f0a744766e958fdfc9d0ac1a5cf2f26f05b1702ea07bd28b5c393d60c

Thanks!

I almost have 0.1 BTC worth! Smiley

M

A few more 0dd3b50ead7d2284928fa2f1caad29488b581d9f7208b1bf05006a5c8bb2d171

BTW where are you selling these? I did not know there was even a market till I saw you were collecting them.

-Dave


At the moment I'm not selling them.  They are just collecting.  The hope is someday there will be enough to sell and distribute, and/or they get valuable enough to sell.

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June 17, 2014, 04:26:13 PM
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I'm not sure how much, if any, market is going to exist in the future for the coin, since the website and block explorer are dead, and there's been virtually no activity at all on their threads.  If you can get any value at all, now might be the time to convert them.

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June 17, 2014, 04:58:37 PM
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How many of you try to find nodes close to you and add them to your nodes when you run your node with --p2pool-node?

I've got my own nodes doing that, I have a couple nearby that I have added also. how advantageous is it exactly to do so do you think? does it make a huge difference?

Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....
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June 17, 2014, 05:04:33 PM
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How many of you try to find nodes close to you and add them to your nodes when you run your node with --p2pool-node?

I've got my own nodes doing that, I have a couple nearby that I have added also. how advantageous is it exactly to do so do you think? does it make a huge difference?

Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....

Code:
run_p2pool.py --p2pool-node pool1:port --p2pool-node pool2:port ...

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June 17, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
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How many of you try to find nodes close to you and add them to your nodes when you run your node with --p2pool-node?

I've got my own nodes doing that, I have a couple nearby that I have added also. how advantageous is it exactly to do so do you think? does it make a huge difference?

Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....

Code:
run_p2pool.py --p2pool-node pool1:port --p2pool-node pool2:port ...
OK one more thing please.... is there an advantage to running more then 1 pool at a time? in your explanation (run_p2pool.py --p2pool-node pool1:port --p2pool-node pool2:port)
it looks as if you are starting up 2 or 3 nodes? or is that 2 or 3 nodes that you are adding from other people to pool together??? and if thats the case can you use any port? and where do you find nodes to work with? Thanks for clearing it up a bit....

BY THE WAY... You guys are all so helpful and I have learned so much about the shares and the blocks and payouts from all of you!!!!!! THANKS
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June 17, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
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Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....


The --p2pool-node (or just -n shorthand) is the command line option for adding specific nodes on startup.

Be sure to add us!

Code:
-n minefast.coincadence.com:9332

However, I think what you are looking for is the nodes you are connected to, to see the list of IPs for p2pool nodes you are peered with go to:

Code:
http://yournode.com:9332/peer_addresses


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Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....


The --p2pool-node (or just -n shorthand) is the command line option for adding specific nodes on startup.

Be sure to add us!

Code:
-n minefast.coincadence.com:9332

However, I think what you are looking for is the nodes you are connected to, to see the list of IPs for p2pool nodes you are peered with go to:

Code:
http://yournode.com:9332/peer_addresses



OK all making a lot more sense to me...
Now... by adding lets say you guys to my node list.... is that advantageous to you and or me? or at the end of the day are all p2pool nodes are working for the same blocks?Huh
by putting our nodes together do we create a better chance of shares and blocks? Hey I want to run p2pool and do it the right way for all of us....
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June 17, 2014, 08:01:15 PM
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OK all making a lot more sense to me...
Now... by adding lets say you guys to my node list.... is that advantageous to you and or me? or at the end of the day are all p2pool nodes are working for the same blocks?Huh
by putting our nodes together do we create a better chance of shares and blocks? Hey I want to run p2pool and do it the right way for all of us....


Typically you want to peer connect with nodes that are closer to you on the net (lower pings) and are relatively stable (stay running without restart longer and no big outages).  Reduced latency between you and peers gives your miners a better chance at valid blocks and shares and correspondingly lower DOA.

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June 17, 2014, 10:02:45 PM
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How many of you try to find nodes close to you and add them to your nodes when you run your node with --p2pool-node?

I've got my own nodes doing that, I have a couple nearby that I have added also. how advantageous is it exactly to do so do you think? does it make a huge difference?

Hey guys... Newbie... running on windows machine, how would I run the command for the nodes?? my machine is just picking up a large group and I have no idea from where??? And help in that area would be great! Thanks....

Code:
run_p2pool.py --p2pool-node pool1:port --p2pool-node pool2:port ...
OK one more thing please.... is there an advantage to running more then 1 pool at a time? in your explanation (run_p2pool.py --p2pool-node pool1:port --p2pool-node pool2:port)
it looks as if you are starting up 2 or 3 nodes? or is that 2 or 3 nodes that you are adding from other people to pool together??? and if thats the case can you use any port? and where do you find nodes to work with? Thanks for clearing it up a bit....

BY THE WAY... You guys are all so helpful and I have learned so much about the shares and the blocks and payouts from all of you!!!!!! THANKS
I'm only starting a single instance of p2pool (for BTC) with that command.  I'm telling it to add the nodes specified by poo1:port.  As windpath explained, if you wanted to connect to his node, you would specify it in the argument to --p2pool-node.  Port is by default 9332, but some pool operators might choose to forward another port.  If you want to run separate pools, you can do that, too.  The standard code has setups for BTC and LTC.  Alternatively, you can get rav3n's fork which has support for pretty much every coin in existence.  This is a bit different than merge-mining - which uses your hashing not only on BTC, but also on other SHA-256 coins (NMC, DVC, IXC, I0C, FSC, HUC) as well.

I'm glad we've been able to help.

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June 18, 2014, 04:13:13 AM
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Please check my maths!

As a developer its weird to say that math has never been my strong point...

I've finished the "above the fold" portion of my version of p2pool.info.

When complete there will be tabs below with data on all found blocks, miners (active and past), and payouts.

But this above the fold part was the most challenging for me...

It is available now in a very BETA version here (url will likely change in the future):

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php



So... Our current luck stinks, but one thing that I know about luck; it is bound to change Wink

I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm my math on the luck calculations for the current round and 7 days.

A basic explanation of my formulas are as follows:

Code:
current_round_luck_% = average_expected_time_to_block_since_last_found_block / elapsed_time_since_last_found_block

Code:
7_day_luck_% = average_expected_time_to_block_last_7_days / average_elapsed_time_between_blocks_found_in_last_7_days

To me they look right, but it's always nice to get some extra eyes on it.

With the current data set (began collecting June 11th) 30 day luck will be accurate July 11th and higher graph resolutions will become available as time passes.

All data is auto-magically updated in near real-time.

More to come...


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June 18, 2014, 04:16:29 AM
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Looks really good windpath! 

Can't comment on the math though

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