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June 30, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind! https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

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June 30, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

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you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

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June 30, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
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lol at all the bigmouths who are now quietly admitting that it's the hardware that's incompatible with p2pool, not the other way round.

Bigmouths? Mature. Impressive.

You know not what you say. GTFO.

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June 30, 2014, 02:15:17 PM
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I think you are just throwing bad money after good if you send him any more donations.

The bounty will only be paid if the new Ants are playing well with p2pool by July 25th, otherwise it will be returned to donators...

I think you missed the main point of my post...  The evidence suggests that forrestv is simply not able to fix the problems.  If I understand your bounty correctly, it can only be collected by forrestv or his 'representative'.  This restriction pretty much assures failure.  There may be someone out there who can fix the problem, and who would be motivated to do so by your bounty - but I feel confident that that person is not forrestv.  These problems are not new, and I'm pretty sure if he could fix them, he would have already done so.

I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I am not holding my breath...


I agree 100% with the main point of your post, however the problems this bounty attempts to address are not the big challenges p2pool faces.

The goal of the bounty is for S2 & S3 compatibility with p2pool, not the larger problems of variance/share diff for smaller miners.

The news from Bitmain sounds promising, hope they can address it.

The bounty is now up to BTC1.01.

This bounty expires July 25th and will be paid to Forrest if he (or his designee) comes up with a fix or returned to donators...

Bounty Address: 1Ft1DZ4EcpH1jFttDoPwsFbe11a6diyZ1H

https://blockchain.info/address/1Ft1DZ4EcpH1jFttDoPwsFbe11a6diyZ1H

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forrestv p2pool antminer s2 and s3 compatibility fix.

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If you would like to see a working solution for the new Ants from Forrest please contribute and show that we are willing to pay for work completed.

Once this bounty is complete (July 25th), I would be happy to set up another better structured bounty to address the bigger problems of variance/share diff. The challenge as there is currently no known solution will be to structure it properly and establish criteria for receiving the reward.



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June 30, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
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lol at all the bigmouths who are now quietly admitting that it's the hardware that's incompatible with p2pool, not the other way round.

That's just a sad statement. If you have nothing constructive to spout, please don't bother. Some people here are actually trying to do something about it.

Idiot.

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June 30, 2014, 02:25:02 PM
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lol at all the bigmouths who are now quietly admitting that it's the hardware that's incompatible with p2pool, not the other way round.

You sound much more intelligent & grown-up in the press thread. Please go back there.

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June 30, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

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you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

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June 30, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

You're welcome Wink

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you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

ah no worries! i agree, no point pointing US rigs at an EU node!

best luck cracking the next block mate!

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June 30, 2014, 03:29:13 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

You're welcome Wink

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you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

ah no worries! i agree, no point pointing US rigs at an EU node!

best luck cracking the next block mate!

The next few blocks should be pretty juicy, full of Bitmain S3 transactions.  People are buying them up at 10, 20, 30 at a time...

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June 30, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

You're welcome Wink

 Cry

you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

ah no worries! i agree, no point pointing US rigs at an EU node!

best luck cracking the next block mate!

The next few blocks should be pretty juicy, full of Bitmain S3 transactions.  People are buying them up at 10, 20, 30 at a time...

indeed... some of that BTC being chucked around for that purpose; is my own   Cheesy

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June 30, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

You're welcome Wink

 Cry

you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

ah no worries! i agree, no point pointing US rigs at an EU node!

best luck cracking the next block mate!

The next few blocks should be pretty juicy, full of Bitmain S3 transactions.  People are buying them up at 10, 20, 30 at a time...

indeed... some of that BTC being chucked around for that purpose; is my own   Cheesy

Some of that is mine as well Smiley Really hope we can get them to play with our pool!

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June 30, 2014, 03:46:55 PM
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BooYAH!!! Found the block...

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2014-06-30 09:01:00.028950 [b]GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind![/b] https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000002b5eccd39cca841bc8d13da1c5351aa1651ded729b2f7fce

You're welcome Wink

 Cry

you hopped off my node... boohoo please come back.

I'll be back with more TH when I get more EU Rentals... I've got some US based rentals now and luckily those TH on my node were just in time to get me that block... and the merged mining rewards (such as they are).

ah no worries! i agree, no point pointing US rigs at an EU node!

best luck cracking the next block mate!

The next few blocks should be pretty juicy, full of Bitmain S3 transactions.  People are buying them up at 10, 20, 30 at a time...

indeed... some of that BTC being chucked around for that purpose; is my own   Cheesy

Some of that is mine as well Smiley Really hope we can get them to play with our pool!

I'm holding (or hodling) out to see what the S1 upgrades will look like and how much they'll cost.

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June 30, 2014, 03:49:29 PM
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Really hope we can get them to play with our pool!

Exactly - this is vital, S2's also.  I don't know how much info PatMan sent Bitmain, but I sent a shit load of stuff to him. The reply from Bitmain was very encouraging, but it's important that we keep the pressure on them & other hardware manufacturers to consider p2pool when designing their hardware. I tip my hat to PatMan for putting all the info together for Bitmain - it seems to have made an impression..... Smiley

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June 30, 2014, 04:07:37 PM
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Really hope we can get them to play with our pool!

Exactly - this is vital, S2's also.  I don't know how much info PatMan sent Bitmain, but I sent a shit load of stuff to him. The reply from Bitmain was very encouraging, but it's important that we keep the pressure on them & other hardware manufacturers to consider p2pool when designing their hardware. I tip my hat to PatMan for putting all the info together for Bitmain - it seems to have made an impression..... Smiley

Agreed, Thanks PatMan. My reply to the purchase email from Bitmain:

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Please ensure they work well with p2pool.

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June 30, 2014, 04:28:13 PM
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Bigmouths? Mature. Impressive.

You know not what you say. GTFO.


You sound much more intelligent & grown-up in the press thread. Please go back there.


That's just a sad statement. If you have nothing constructive to spout, please don't bother. Some people here are actually trying to do something about it.

Idiot.

Wait a second, is this your way of telling everyone that you're some of the people who've been blaming the wrong developers for Bitmain devices not working? I don't actually recognise any of you, except Patman, who I thought always understood that the problem was on the hardware/firmware side. Will the real bigmouth please stand up!

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June 30, 2014, 04:31:28 PM
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Bigmouths? Mature. Impressive.

You know not what you say. GTFO.


You sound much more intelligent & grown-up in the press thread. Please go back there.


That's just a sad statement. If you have nothing constructive to spout, please don't bother. Some people here are actually trying to do something about it.

Idiot.

Wait a second, is this your way of telling everyone that you're some of the people who've been blaming the wrong developers for Bitmain devices not working? I don't actually recognise any of you, except Patman, who I thought always understood that the problem was on the hardware/firmware side. Will the real bigmouth please stand up!

**yawn**

Give it a rest.

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June 30, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
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Bigmouths? Mature. Impressive.

You know not what you say. GTFO.


You sound much more intelligent & grown-up in the press thread. Please go back there.


That's just a sad statement. If you have nothing constructive to spout, please don't bother. Some people here are actually trying to do something about it.

Idiot.

Wait a second, is this your way of telling everyone that you're some of the people who've been blaming the wrong developers for Bitmain devices not working? I don't actually recognise any of you, except Patman, who I thought always understood that the problem was on the hardware/firmware side. Will the real bigmouth please stand up!

What's ironic is that users don't understand that it's an interface problem and that there are 2 parts in an interface. As p2pool's interface fully respect the Bitcoin and pool protocols if your hardware doesn't work at all, you might have a bigger problem that not being able to use p2pool : if pool operators need to change their software and implement some of the protocol options p2pool already use, the hardware will suddenly stop producing income until they find about the problem, find an alternative pool or upgrade their firmware.

If this is a latency problem instead of a protocol support problem, trying to solve it on p2pool's end is OK in the short term (and the only person working on this right now is forrestv). But if you have a measurable latency problems with an average 30 second window of valid block template, you probably lose a few % of income on any pool too (even if it's less than on p2pool which will have more DOA). So ultimately solving the latency problem on the hardware/firmware is the only way of ensuring the best income on all pools (p2pool or not). Seeing users blaming large amounts of DOA on p2pool while ignoring that they are actively losing income on any pool by not pressuring the vendors to solve this is baffling.

When you compare the quality of ASIC hardware, which is often reported as being delivered in a beat-up state, with forked miner software and dodgy firmware and how stable p2pool is, the double-standard about quality is obvious. Miners are now used to crappy hardware and the fact that hardware manufacturers don't give a **** about their product once they have sold them (some even don't deliver...). This thread is a sad illustration of this situation.

BTW : maybe some Bitfury hardware doesn't work with p2pool, but clearly the chips themselves don't have high latencies or any inherent p2pool incompatibility, CryptX bitfury boards are working nicely with p2pool for ~9 months now

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June 30, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
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When you compare the quality of ASIC hardware, which is often reported as being delivered in a beat-up state, with forked miner software and dodgy firmware and how stable p2pool is, the double-standard about quality is obvious.

Yeah, it's strange how people could think it's the p2pool code that causes only select hardware to have problems. There was a time in the early days of ASICs when there actually was an issue with how p2pool talked to any ASIC based hardware, then that got fixed.

Now that those who previously complained about this have changed their minds in a haughty foot-stomping sob, maybe we can forget about it. Tip for you guys: stop buying incompatible hardware, or cursing the sky for being blue  Cheesy

Re: Bitfury, the OneString devices also work on p2pool, the BFSB design was the only one that doesn't AFAIK.


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June 30, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
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What's ironic is that users don't understand that it's .....blahblahblah

Hello forrestv/his lover - nice of you to drop in. Are you upset because users are trying to improve something that you convinced yourself was perfect in every detail for the last 2 years? Don't be - you should be happy  Wink

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June 30, 2014, 08:31:28 PM
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What's ironic is that users don't understand that it's .....blahblahblah

Hello forrestv

Stupid introduction without basis and in direct contradiction with public posts for the last 2 years on bitcointalk everyone can check out.

/his lover

Kindergarten-level taunting.

- nice of you to drop in. Are you upset because users are trying to improve something that you convinced yourself was perfect in every detail for the last 2 years?

"Users trying to improve" -> trolls that have repeatedly demonstrated they don't have anything to contribute other than their continuous rants.

Foregone conclusion: one more ignore. Enjoy ranting with other unproductive trolls wasting each other time.

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