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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2029289 times)
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June 26, 2014, 03:45:11 AM
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I've seen payouts before with the block reporting later. it could just be a delay in the stats?

Hmmm .... maybe

Stats on http://minefast.coincadence.com are pulled directly from the bitcoin blockchain, if that 2nd block was going to be an orphan would have happened by now...

120 is default confirmations for generation TX, in reality more then 6 confirmations is highly unlikely to become an orphan...

Yeah, I wasn't worried about it becoming an orphan.  I'm just trying to figure out why it isn't showing on my node, just seemed weird, especially since it's still not showing.  At least the important part is working, it's in my wallet awaiting confirmation.

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June 26, 2014, 03:59:20 AM
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Hello all, Has anyone used a stratum server with p2pool...
I have tried all configs and can not get it to work. Maybe someone outhere has the answer for me.
It would make my life so much easier then manually tuning 20 some odd machines to a node.....
THANKS!
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June 26, 2014, 04:24:25 AM
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That first block today was found by me  Grin Grin Grin

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June 26, 2014, 04:41:53 AM
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I've seen payouts before with the block reporting later. it could just be a delay in the stats?

Hmmm .... maybe
Its orphan in p2pool share chain but still its a valid block...
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June 26, 2014, 04:45:38 AM
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Hello all, Has anyone used a stratum server with p2pool...
I have tried all configs and can not get it to work. Maybe someone outhere has the answer for me.
It would make my life so much easier then manually tuning 20 some odd machines to a node.....
THANKS!

that's a known issue with p2pool at the moment unfortunately.

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June 26, 2014, 04:47:03 AM
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That first block today was found by me  Grin Grin Grin

nice, at what hash rate?

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June 26, 2014, 05:02:49 AM
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That first block today was found by me  Grin Grin Grin

Cool...
Do you get any bonus for this?? Just curious....
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June 26, 2014, 05:03:46 AM
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That first block today was found by me  Grin Grin Grin

Cool...
Do you get any bonus for this?? Just curious....

0.5% of the block reward on p2pool right?

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June 26, 2014, 05:46:59 AM
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The bonus goes to the node operator, not the miner afaik. (But this is often the same person).

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June 26, 2014, 05:48:14 AM
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That first block today was found by me  Grin Grin Grin

Cool...
Do you get any bonus for this?? Just curious....

0.5% of the block reward on p2pool right?
Correct.  Here's the code:

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amounts = dict((script, share_data['subsidy']*(199*weight)//(200*total_weight)) for script, weight in weights.iteritems()) # 99.5% goes according to weights prior to this share
this_script = bitcoin_data.pubkey_hash_to_script2(share_data['pubkey_hash'])
amounts[this_script] = amounts.get(this_script, 0) + share_data['subsidy']//200 # 0.5% goes to block finder

@Collider - the bonus goes to the miner.

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June 26, 2014, 09:25:03 AM
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I've seen payouts before with the block reporting later. it could just be a delay in the stats?

Hmmm .... maybe
Its orphan in p2pool share chain but still its a valid block...

aha!  that makes sense.

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June 26, 2014, 10:01:31 AM
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Found the block with just shy of 1 TH/s.  Got 0.125 bonus, which alerted me to the fact.  Actually this is the second block I've found on p2pool in a couple months.

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June 26, 2014, 10:26:59 AM
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Are there other indicators in P2Pool when you find a block other than the bonus?  How's the bonus differentiated from other payouts to our P2Pool associated address, now that we're seeing fairly regular donations to P2Pool miners?

Even if it says "Block Found!" on the rolling command line status, I'd have a hard time seeing it (not like I sit here watching it scroll by all day).  Is it in another log or do I have to slog through all my rigs and look at their UI's to see if they found a block (like the S1 Mining Status page)?

windpath - It would be great to have an indicator of blocks found (total and individual blocks highlighted) on the Miner Status pages you provide, including for miners outside your node on CoinCadence.

Alternatively can I add similar functionality to my node's UI.... where to source the data?

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June 26, 2014, 10:46:13 AM
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3 blocks in 1 day. pray to the Bitcoin gods for more luck like this Smiley

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June 26, 2014, 10:56:17 AM
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Are there other indicators in P2Pool when you find a block other than the bonus?  How's the bonus differentiated from other payouts to our P2Pool associated address, now that we're seeing fairly regular donations to P2Pool miners?

Even if it says "Block Found!" on the rolling command line status, I'd have a hard time seeing it (not like I sit here watching it scroll by all day).  Is it in another log or do I have to slog through all my rigs and look at their UI's to see if they found a block (like the S1 Mining Status page)?

windpath - It would be great to have an indicator of blocks found (total and individual blocks highlighted) on the Miner Status pages you provide, including for miners outside your node on CoinCadence.

Alternatively can I add similar functionality to my node's UI.... where to source the data?
The bonus isn't differentiated.  It just gets added to whatever your share of the other 199/200.  In other words, if your address is MYADDRESS and that address found the block, and your expected payout at the time of finding the block is 0.5BTC, your total block reward is 0.625BTC.  You don't get two separate payouts of 0.125 and 0.5.

When you find a block, you see this in your p2pool logs:

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2014-04-26 04:18:51.302213 GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind! https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000001354b78a93d4a4d71490abb482b08405484c125b918f3fc7

I'm not sure you could source the "This address is the one that found the block" information for nodes other than your own, nor am I sure if that is historically associated to the submitted block so you could parse it from block data.  Anyone know the answer to that?

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June 26, 2014, 10:59:37 AM
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3 blocks in 1 day. pray to the Bitcoin gods for more luck like this Smiley

It all balances out in the long run, thats why it makes no sense to continually hop pools, you will earn much of the same wherever you mine.

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June 26, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
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Are there other indicators in P2Pool when you find a block other than the bonus?  How's the bonus differentiated from other payouts to our P2Pool associated address, now that we're seeing fairly regular donations to P2Pool miners?

Even if it says "Block Found!" on the rolling command line status, I'd have a hard time seeing it (not like I sit here watching it scroll by all day).  Is it in another log or do I have to slog through all my rigs and look at their UI's to see if they found a block (like the S1 Mining Status page)?

windpath - It would be great to have an indicator of blocks found (total and individual blocks highlighted) on the Miner Status pages you provide, including for miners outside your node on CoinCadence.

Alternatively can I add similar functionality to my node's UI.... where to source the data?
The bonus isn't differentiated.  It just gets added to whatever your share of the other 199/200.  In other words, if your address is MYADDRESS and that address found the block, and your expected payout at the time of finding the block is 0.5BTC, your total block reward is 0.625BTC.  You don't get two separate payouts of 0.125 and 0.5.

When you find a block, you see this in your p2pool logs:

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2014-04-26 04:18:51.302213 GOT BLOCK FROM MINER! Passing to bitcoind! https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000001354b78a93d4a4d71490abb482b08405484c125b918f3fc7

I'm not sure you could source the "This address is the one that found the block" information for nodes other than your own, nor am I sure if that is historically associated to the submitted block so you could parse it from block data.  Anyone know the answer to that?

When you look at that block in the blockchain it has a payout address, is that the block finder?

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June 26, 2014, 12:08:04 PM
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Another potential stupid question....

Is there any detriment to mining on multiple nodes for the same address?  I know payout level carries over when you failover to another node for backup as you find shares, but that's not the question. I'm talking simultaneously across nodes with the same address.

Here's the use case:
My main set of rigs are in the US East Coast so I use my personal node on the same network to minimize latency.
I also have access to other rigs at other locations across the globe (rentals and other rigs).  Having them all point to my personal node could introduce higher rejects due to latency.
So I've connected them to some closer regional nodes.  They're all using the same address.  Is there any detriment in doing things that way (other than having to jump to the various nodes to see progress of the individual clusters of miners)?  Assuming the shares earned across the globe would raise the payout address' estimated amount as usual right?

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June 26, 2014, 12:21:57 PM
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No, there is no difference.

All the shares you mine to your address wil be saved in the sharechain.



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June 26, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
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When you look at that block in the blockchain it has a payout address, is that the block finder?
Not sure I follow what you mean there...you can see the newly generated coins if you look at the block I found, along with all the other transactions in the block.  Payout address?

My miner's address (it was one of my S1s that found that block) was 1DLcDRVncY7Zasd91oBw12XrQfLPohtNZP.  As you can see, I earned 0.13024717BTC which is the block finder's reward plus the rewarded coins for shares on the share chain.

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