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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2034631 times)
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August 11, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
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That's using stock queue settings (--queue 4096).  Like I said... most stable one I've got - set it and forget it.  Best share is 0 because of what I reported earlier - manually setting share difficulty.

jonnybravo0311 are you on a pool with others is that why you are setting your difficulty?
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August 11, 2014, 01:55:25 PM
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jonnybravo0311 are you on a pool with others is that why you are setting your difficulty?
No, I mine on my own node.  Of my miners, I have some with difficulty set to /256, some at /512 and some not set at all.  I have seen absolutely zero impact from setting them or not.

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August 11, 2014, 02:01:13 PM
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Good to know as I have tried those settings as well as the Norgz Pool optimized calculated value and have not noticed any difference. I am on my own node as well.
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August 11, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
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Just to chime in, I've given up on trying to set difficulty or pseudo-share on my S1's.  I have also seen no difference between setting it explicitly or leaving it to auto-adjust in practical use.  I am mining on my own node now, however, and I've also split my miners up into groups to keep hashrates similar across the board (about 2.5TH each group, mainly to match the Terraminers).

I am using -- queue 1 on the S1's and I've found that I get a much better stale rate with it than at 0.

I expect my batch 5 S3's in before end of the week, so we'll see what happens with those.

BTW - is anyone using M's Ant Monitor with the S3's?  I'm using it with all my S1's and love it (and plan to donate), but there's only a radio button in there for S1/S2.  Safe to use the S1 button for an S3?  I'm really only using it to monitor the Ant's, I've got custom ssh deploy scripts done for pushing out changes to the S1's in batch, so I don't use any of the other features of the app.
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August 11, 2014, 04:32:12 PM
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Just to chime in, I've given up on trying to set difficulty or pseudo-share on my S1's.  I have also seen no difference between setting it explicitly or leaving it to auto-adjust in practical use.  I am mining on my own node now, however, and I've also split my miners up into groups to keep hashrates similar across the board (about 2.5TH each group, mainly to match the Terraminers).

I am using -- queue 1 on the S1's and I've found that I get a much better stale rate with it than at 0.

I expect my batch 5 S3's in before end of the week, so we'll see what happens with those.

BTW - is anyone using M's Ant Monitor with the S3's?  I'm using it with all my S1's and love it (and plan to donate), but there's only a radio button in there for S1/S2.  Safe to use the S1 button for an S3?  I'm really only using it to monitor the Ant's, I've got custom ssh deploy scripts done for pushing out changes to the S1's in batch, so I don't use any of the other features of the app.

From what folks have told me, the S3s work just fine when entered as S1s.

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August 11, 2014, 04:46:59 PM
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From what folks have told me, the S3s work just fine when entered as S1s.

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mdude, how long is it before the S3 reboots after discovering an "x"?  I ask because from time to time I've logged on to some of my S3's and seen an "x" displayed - but Antmon hasn't rebooted it. Never had this with the S1's - it's a great app though buddy  Wink

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August 11, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
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From what folks have told me, the S3s work just fine when entered as S1s.

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mdude, how long is it before the S3 reboots after discovering an "x"?  I ask because from time to time I've logged on to some of my S3's and seen an "x" displayed - but Antmon hasn't rebooted it. Never had this with the S1's - it's a great app though buddy  Wink

Since I don't have an S3, I don't know for sure the reboot functionality works. 

Assuming it does, I'd say it likely already rebooted it, but that didn't clear the X.  I have that with my S2 where I have to power cycle it to get the Xs to go away.  That's why I put the governor in there on reboots to prevent it rebooting every time it sees it, instead every X minutes.  Also make sure you have the checkbox in the Alerts->Alert Types tab enabled.

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August 11, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
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I'm running a p2pool for an altcoin, and I'm seeing odd payouts that don't reflect the 1% fee configured. More like 0.2-0.5%. Here is a list of transactions going to the wallet of the daemon the pool is connected to: http://explorer.solcoin.net/address/8SLHAh8LukapttooKzdWocZ41tG5hne1UQ

Each block has a value of 1772 coins currently, so each transaction per found block should be around 17 coins, no? What's causing this?

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August 11, 2014, 05:32:30 PM
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I'm running a p2pool for an altcoin, and I'm seeing odd payouts that don't reflect the 1% fee configured. More like 0.2-0.5%. Here is a list of transactions going to the wallet of the daemon the pool is connected to: http://explorer.solcoin.net/address/8SLHAh8LukapttooKzdWocZ41tG5hne1UQ

Each block has a value of 1772 coins currently, so each transaction per found block should be around 17 coins, no? What's causing this?

The fee is 1% of valid shares, not 1% of total BTC mined.

So if a miner submits 100 shares, the expected result is the miner receives 99 and the node address receives 1.

Code in work.py line 161:
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        if random.uniform(0, 100) < self.worker_fee:
            pubkey_hash = self.my_pubkey_hash
        else:
            try:
                pubkey_hash = bitcoin_data.address_to_pubkey_hash(user, self.node.net.PARENT)
            except: # XXX blah
                pubkey_hash = self.my_pubkey_hash
       
        return user, pubkey_hash, desired_share_target, desired_pseudoshare_target

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August 11, 2014, 05:37:32 PM
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I'm running a p2pool for an altcoin, and I'm seeing odd payouts that don't reflect the 1% fee configured. More like 0.2-0.5%. Here is a list of transactions going to the wallet of the daemon the pool is connected to: http://explorer.solcoin.net/address/8SLHAh8LukapttooKzdWocZ41tG5hne1UQ

Each block has a value of 1772 coins currently, so each transaction per found block should be around 17 coins, no? What's causing this?

The fee is 1% of valid shares, not 1% of total BTC mined.

So if a miner submits 100 shares, the expected result is the miner receives 99 and the node address receives 1.

Code in work.py line 161:
Code:
        if random.uniform(0, 100) < self.worker_fee:
            pubkey_hash = self.my_pubkey_hash
        else:
            try:
                pubkey_hash = bitcoin_data.address_to_pubkey_hash(user, self.node.net.PARENT)
            except: # XXX blah
                pubkey_hash = self.my_pubkey_hash
       
        return user, pubkey_hash, desired_share_target, desired_pseudoshare_target

Ah, that explains it I guess. Thanks!

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August 11, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
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Started a p2pool server in the Atlanta Area - Southeast USA - Getting some pretty stellar results.  Thanks everyone that has made this software what it is...

I am open for remote connections if you are in SouthEast USA - http://50.251.148.42:9332 I find the DOA rate drops nicely if you do not use the stratum option when connecting to a close server.


Again, I'd like to thank everyone in the community for making local pools a reality.   Smiley
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August 12, 2014, 03:55:24 AM
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so I have a question.

I was a p2pool miner about 2 years ago, and it worked out brilliantly for me,

I have just gotten back into mining and set up my own p2pool and everything seems to be working however I have some questions.

1) I am mining at about 4TH is that even enough for p2pool solo??
2) it says "expected time to share of XXXX... however if the pool has some good luck does that mean I wont get any part of the discovered block since I didnt even get a share?

great example I have an estimated time to share of 2 hours, if we discover a block in 1hr does that mean i get jack? also if that happens does all my work go to squat too??

I dont recall it being this difficult to get a share previously but the hash rate was a lot slower.
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August 12, 2014, 08:13:20 AM
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If I have 2 miners, and put one on one node, and the second on a separate one, both with the same bitcoin address, does anything weird happen?

Each node should report the proper hashrate of that particular miner, but the shares shown should be higher than expected, right?

ie miner 1 gets a share an hour, miner 2 gets a share an hour, each node show that the address is earning 2 shares an hour?

The expected payout will be the sum of both miners, however the shares found that are displayed will be unique on each node as each node only displays its own found shares (this is true for all current front ends I am aware of).

Ah great, that answered my question thanks.
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August 12, 2014, 11:02:24 AM
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so I have a question.

I was a p2pool miner about 2 years ago, and it worked out brilliantly for me,

I have just gotten back into mining and set up my own p2pool and everything seems to be working however I have some questions.

1) I am mining at about 4TH is that even enough for p2pool solo??

Define solo?  Meaning running your own node but part of the p2pool network?  If so the answer is yes. 

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2) it says "expected time to share of XXXX... however if the pool has some good luck does that mean I wont get any part of the discovered block since I didnt even get a share?

great example I have an estimated time to share of 2 hours, if we discover a block in 1hr does that mean i get jack? also if that happens does all my work go to squat too??

I dont recall it being this difficult to get a share previously but the hash rate was a lot slower.

p2pool uses a roughly 3 day pplns window.  That means whatever shares you've submitted in the last 3 days count towards your payout when a block is found.  If you *just* rejoined p2pool and don't have any shares yet, then yes, you won't get anything on a block.  With 4 TH/s, you should do just dandy with p2pool, assuming your hardware likes the 30 second share time.

Difficulty is the highest it's ever been in the history of p2pool.  Part of it is because the share time was changed from 10 seconds to 30 seconds, which tripled the difficulty.  Combine that with the age of ASICs when you can buy 1 TH/s for dirt cheap, and you get high difficulty.  Plus the gigahash scare has led a lot of people to alternatives, and p2pool, despite its faults, is a great alternative.

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August 12, 2014, 01:15:34 PM
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If I have 2 miners, and put one on one node, and the second on a separate one, both with the same bitcoin address, does anything weird happen?

Each node should report the proper hashrate of that particular miner, but the shares shown should be higher than expected, right?

ie miner 1 gets a share an hour, miner 2 gets a share an hour, each node show that the address is earning 2 shares an hour?

The expected payout will be the sum of both miners, however the shares found that are displayed will be unique on each node as each node only displays its own found shares (this is true for all current front ends I am aware of).

Ah great, that answered my question thanks.
Wouldn't you be able to read that data from the share chain?  Every node has a copy of the chain, and each share must know its own payout address.  For example, I just pulled a random share from my own node.  Using the JSON call to get the share data (node:9332/web/share/SHARE_HASH), I get the following data:
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{"share_data": {"nonce": 1579550315, "target": 3869318301364157752248355774806403841641406235167023586869248, "stale_info": null, "payout_address": "18F5Afsnuy2UQMT7BSyGQtSodT1bwW1qnh", "absheight": 1129309, "max_target": 3869318301364157752248355774806403841641406235167023586869248, "donation": 0.010009918364232854, "timestamp": 1407792791, "abswork": 7462011936468621862757, "desired_version": 13}, "parent": "000000000000002ea187d066318c454e27ecb50cb35e2ba0edaba9969372f72a", "type_name": "Share", "local": {"time_first_seen": 1407792796.38815, "verified": true, "peer_first_received_from": ["66.44.103.134", 9333]}, "children": ["000000000000004325f81a267e0e1f00794133f2a322732843a21d488da0e341"], "block": {"header": {"nonce": 2908063771, "version": 2, "target": 1366448002777625511026173062127977611952455397852592472064, "previous_block": "00000000000000002876dc5aa950c80be5de3156b4f56afd98c5df884ee5af47", "timestamp": 1407792785, "merkle_root": 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The "payout_address" is not mine, so therefore, I could certainly build a common list of shares that held true across nodes as well.  Obviously you wouldn't be able to know about orphans/dead shares across nodes because they're not tracked in the share chain.

EDIT: I just tried that on both my node and windpath's and not surprisingly, get the same data back for that share hash.  So, it's certainly possible to build out a common list of shares by miner that would persist across the nodes.  Windpath, on your site you show miner data and if a miner is not mining on your node, the only info you provide is the expected payout, and payouts per block in history.  Using the method I described above, you could now also provide miners with the shares they currently have on the chain.

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August 12, 2014, 05:20:43 PM
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Not one share in 36hrs @ 1.1TH's..  Undecided.

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Not one share in 36hrs @ 1.1TH's..  Undecided.

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Hang in there, just a bout of bad luck. I have exactly 1.1TH/s as well and I've found 6 shares in the last 36hrs. One was DOA. The new difficulty (7491175.77 right now) is brutal.
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Hi i'm a total newbie of p2p mining, I am very excited of p2pool but I'm having some problems ... until a week ago, my reward was aligned with my speed, now is no longer so. This week I bought a antminer s3 and incredibly my reward instead of growing has halved.

someone could give me a hand to understand why?

I'm mining in p2coins.com:9332 pool my addess is 12WF4HJUyYUb3ikDdwstXAgiF5Nx4stzvD

Thanks in advance Erik

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p2coins.com:9332 has 81% effie  Shocked
 Very bad node.

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August 13, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
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Hi i'm a total newbie of p2p mining, I am very excited of p2pool but I'm having some problems ... until a week ago, my reward was aligned with my speed, now is no longer so. This week I bought a antminer s3 and incredibly my reward instead of growing has halved.

someone could give me a hand to understand why?

I'm mining in p2coins.com:9332 pool my addess is 12WF4HJUyYUb3ikDdwstXAgiF5Nx4stzvD

Thanks in advance Erik

Pool hashrate has increased significantly.  Your payout decrease should be offset by more payouts..

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