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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2035713 times)
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August 14, 2014, 05:23:07 AM
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Pool Hashrate: 2222.0 TH/sEstimated Time to Block: 10h 35m  Current Round: 1d  21h 49m


Normal??? Huh
Here is a page that will show you the history.
http://p2pool.info/

see if it helps.

by now we should have had at least 3 or 4 blocks..........
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August 14, 2014, 07:53:31 AM
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some noob question, where do u guys see the share u found on the nodes static.
i have been mining at http://103.25.203.25:9332/static/ since monday and it shows predicted payout until now, it just disappear, what is going on?
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August 14, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
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I've ordered from batch 1, batch 4 and batch 5.  Even in batch 5 the issues remain, although I did get "lucky" as one of my batch 5 units actually hashes at 504GH/s stable.

I also have one of those lucky ones at 505Gh/s from B1 - it's the most stable one out the lot!!

Following up from this, I've been experimenting a little more with my settings & here's a screen of the results:



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This is 4 x S3's running at various clock speeds. Looking at the graph, I was running --queue 1 up until ~3am (yup, I'm a night time fiddler Cheesy) before changing the setting to --queue 0 & letting them run for the same amount of time. It can clearly be seen that after changing the setting to --queue 0, the DOA rate dropped & smoothed out - this was also confirmed by my nodes info page. Average hash rate was slightly higher as a result, so I'll be keeping all my S3's running with the --queue 0 setting from now on. I'm not saying that this will work for everyone, but it's definitely good for my setup & worth giving a try if you're experiencing a higher than expected DOA rate.
The dip in hash rate at the end of the graph was due to a reboot after updating Xubuntu.

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Edit: It's also worth mentioning that my reject rate was at ~4% with --queue 1 - and ~2% with the 0 setting. This is running on a local node.

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August 14, 2014, 05:07:42 PM
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Seems to me the "3 day pplns" isn't entirely accurate.  I believe, it's, as others here have stated, x number of shares on the chain ppls.  My payout is decreasing, but I've only been on p2pool for 2 days now.

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It is 8640 shares.  People say 3 days because a share is supposed to be 30 seconds, but just like the BTC network's average block generation times fluctuate, so do the share times in p2pool.  It's why difficulty is constantly changing - to accommodate the fluctuations in time-to-share.

Pool Hashrate: 2222.0 TH/sEstimated Time to Block: 10h 35m  Current Round: 1d  21h 49m


Normal??? Huh

Not normal at all. It's like we are twice as likely to find a block now but we are four times more unfortunate too.
It's absolutely normal.  It's called variance.  With the current hash rate, the pool *expects* to find a block within a timeframe.  There's no guarantee it will do so.  You'll notice that the pool found 2 blocks within 4 hours of each other earlier today.

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August 14, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
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Hi guys bit of a noob question. I've got version 13.4 of the pool software. That's the last release on Github. Is that the version that is considered "best?" or is there another build that I should be running. Just asking because I notice that a lot of pools are running different builds.
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August 14, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
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Hi guys bit of a noob question. I've got version 13.4 of the pool software. That's the last release on Github. Is that the version that is considered "best?" or is there another build that I should be running. Just asking because I notice that a lot of pools are running different builds.

If your only mining BTC that is the build you want (https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool), if you are looking for some more exotic coins Rav3nPL's build has many already added (https://github.com/Rav3nPL/p2pool-rav).

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August 14, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
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Hi guys bit of a noob question. I've got version 13.4 of the pool software. That's the last release on Github. Is that the version that is considered "best?" or is there another build that I should be running. Just asking because I notice that a lot of pools are running different builds.

If your only mining BTC that is the build you want (https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool), if you are looking for some more exotic coins Rav3nPL's build has many already added (https://github.com/Rav3nPL/p2pool-rav).

Generally Bitcoin with some merged alt coins. However the difference between his 13.4 release and the latest head is nearly 8 months of development. I can't help but think that there must be a release in there that adds significant support/features/performance and is particularly stable. Espeically since when I take a look a the running nodes I find a large variety of versions newer than 13.4
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August 14, 2014, 10:13:44 PM
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I've ordered from batch 1, batch 4 and batch 5.  Even in batch 5 the issues remain, although I did get "lucky" as one of my batch 5 units actually hashes at 504GH/s stable.

I also have one of those lucky ones at 505Gh/s from B1 - it's the most stable one out the lot!!

Following up from this, I've been experimenting a little more with my settings & here's a screen of the results:



(click for larger)

This is 4 x S3's running at various clock speeds. Looking at the graph, I was running --queue 1 up until ~3am (yup, I'm a night time fiddler Cheesy) before changing the setting to --queue 0 & letting them run for the same amount of time. It can clearly be seen that after changing the setting to --queue 0, the DOA rate dropped & smoothed out - this was also confirmed by my nodes info page. Average hash rate was slightly higher as a result, so I'll be keeping all my S3's running with the --queue 0 setting from now on. I'm not saying that this will work for everyone, but it's definitely good for my setup & worth giving a try if you're experiencing a higher than expected DOA rate.
The dip in hash rate at the end of the graph was due to a reboot after updating Xubuntu.

Smoke'em if ya got'em  Cool

Edit: It's also worth mentioning that my reject rate was at ~4% with --queue 1 - and ~2% with the 0 setting. This is running on a local node.

How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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August 14, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
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August 14, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
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How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

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August 14, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
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August 15, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
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No  share?

Look here

http://188.40.74.85:9332/static/graphs.html?Day


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August 15, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
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No  share?

Look here

http://188.40.74.85:9332/static/graphs.html?Day


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I'm sorry but I honestly do not understand ... how p2p can be the most profittabile when reward fluctuate under 10 mBtc for 1.5 Th / s? in Eligius pool I take 0.036 btc / day

I understand the variance of the reward, but for what I have seen of me and many others who have under 2th / s of hashing power is very inconvenient and this is making the p2p pool for a few miners only.

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August 15, 2014, 02:13:08 PM
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No  share?

Look here

http://188.40.74.85:9332/static/graphs.html?Day


lol  Grin Grin Grin


It must be remembered that he . Cheesy




I'm sorry but I honestly do not understand ... how p2p can be the most profittabile when reward fluctuate under 10 mBtc for 1.5 Th / s? in Eligius pool I take 0.036 btc / day

I understand the variance of the reward, but for what I have seen of me and many others who have under 2th / s of hashing power is very inconvenient and this is making the p2p pool for a few miners only.

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He has 1.5GH/s, take a look at the graph again. Smiley
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August 15, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
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Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink

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August 15, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
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hi wlz2011, care to share what is the secret behind? Cry
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August 15, 2014, 03:34:33 PM
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How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)

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August 15, 2014, 03:41:16 PM
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Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink
Difficulty going up... boy is that the truth.  I'm looking at 9.7M right now... any bets on when it crosses 10M?


How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)
That's interesting data.  I'm actually using the default values of 4096 on my local node and get 1-2% DOA.  I never really noticed much difference when I set the queue values to 0 or 1 or left it alone at stock.

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August 15, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
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As the difficulty reaches 9M and touches 10M, I am switching back to Eligius.

I love the idea of P2Pool but with the difficulty increasing and me just having 1TH/s, I don't think it is very lucrative for me too keep mining on P2Pool.

At this point, P2Pool has basically become an altcoin with lower difficulty than Bitcoin that's immediately redeemable for BTC.
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August 15, 2014, 04:21:47 PM
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He has 1.5GH/s, take a look at the graph again. Smiley

i've look at the graph in this moment, but he has the same reward...

Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink

http://s7.postimg.org/9xrj72cxj/Schermata_da_2014_08_15_16_21_40.jpg

Yes but patience apart, I have mined for about 2 weeks and in the last 4-5 days my reward decrease and go to 0.

On http://p2pool.info/ the lowest active user speed is over 1900th/s

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