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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2567596 times)
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August 14, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
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August 14, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
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How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

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August 14, 2014, 10:54:01 PM
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August 15, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
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No  share?

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August 15, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
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No  share?

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http://188.40.74.85:9332/static/graphs.html?Day


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I'm sorry but I honestly do not understand ... how p2p can be the most profittabile when reward fluctuate under 10 mBtc for 1.5 Th / s? in Eligius pool I take 0.036 btc / day

I understand the variance of the reward, but for what I have seen of me and many others who have under 2th / s of hashing power is very inconvenient and this is making the p2p pool for a few miners only.

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August 15, 2014, 02:13:08 PM
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No  share?

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http://188.40.74.85:9332/static/graphs.html?Day


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I'm sorry but I honestly do not understand ... how p2p can be the most profittabile when reward fluctuate under 10 mBtc for 1.5 Th / s? in Eligius pool I take 0.036 btc / day

I understand the variance of the reward, but for what I have seen of me and many others who have under 2th / s of hashing power is very inconvenient and this is making the p2p pool for a few miners only.

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He has 1.5GH/s, take a look at the graph again. Smiley
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August 15, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
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Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

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August 15, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
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hi wlz2011, care to share what is the secret behind? Cry

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August 15, 2014, 03:34:33 PM
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How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)

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August 15, 2014, 03:41:16 PM
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Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink
Difficulty going up... boy is that the truth.  I'm looking at 9.7M right now... any bets on when it crosses 10M?


How about the fact that the cgminer dev said should use at least 1 not zero?

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Yeah, ck said he recommended a setting of 1 - that's why I used it to start with, but as you can see, setting it to 0 works better for my setup  Wink

Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)
That's interesting data.  I'm actually using the default values of 4096 on my local node and get 1-2% DOA.  I never really noticed much difference when I set the queue values to 0 or 1 or left it alone at stock.

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August 15, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
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As the difficulty reaches 9M and touches 10M, I am switching back to Eligius.

I love the idea of P2Pool but with the difficulty increasing and me just having 1TH/s, I don't think it is very lucrative for me too keep mining on P2Pool.

At this point, P2Pool has basically become an altcoin with lower difficulty than Bitcoin that's immediately redeemable for BTC.
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He has 1.5GH/s, take a look at the graph again. Smiley

i've look at the graph in this moment, but he has the same reward...

Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink

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Yes but patience apart, I have mined for about 2 weeks and in the last 4-5 days my reward decrease and go to 0.

On http://p2pool.info/ the lowest active user speed is over 1900th/s
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August 15, 2014, 04:29:35 PM
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Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)
That's interesting data.  I'm actually using the default values of 4096 on my local node and get 1-2% DOA.  I never really noticed much difference when I set the queue values to 0 or 1 or left it alone at stock.

I believe that using --queue 0 puts more load on the asic cpu, but I'm not sure tbh - it might be the other way round - maybe ck can chime in here. Using a queue setting of zero has generally been regarded as the way to go with p2pool since the early days, although obviously the tech has changed since mining with 5 series GPU's  Cheesy

Works good for me though..... Wink

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August 15, 2014, 04:34:45 PM
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As the difficulty reaches 9M and touches 10M, I am switching back to Eligius.

I love the idea of P2Pool but with the difficulty increasing and me just having 1TH/s, I don't think it is very lucrative for me too keep mining on P2Pool.

At this point, P2Pool has basically become an altcoin with lower difficulty than Bitcoin that's immediately redeemable for BTC.

I know how you feel, I'm guessing your expected time to share is somewhere around 12 hours?

For me, if I was getting at least 1 share every 24 hours (and keeping ~3 in the active share chain) p2pool would still be worth it; the variance may be a bear and patience is very important, but I still believe p2pools payout will be higher over time then any other pool.
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August 15, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
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He has 1.5GH/s, take a look at the graph again. Smiley

i've look at the graph in this moment, but he has the same reward...

Patience is required with p2pool - I am using less hashrate than you on a couple of different nodes, sometimes I can go without a share for 12 hours or more - then 2 or 3 shares will appear within 5 minutes of each other. Hash rate & diff is going up on every pool - this is the way of things.

Just sit tight - it'll come  Wink



Yes but patience apart, I have mined for about 2 weeks and in the last 4-5 days my reward decrease and go to 0.

On http://p2pool.info/ the active user speed is over 1900th/s
He has the same payout because he hasn't found another share, and his share is still on the chain.  If he doesn't find another share before that one falls off the chain, his payout will go to zero.  With the increasing difficulty, you're going to find fewer shares.  The theory is that the pool will find more blocks, meaning the fewer shares you find will be paid more often.

Can confirm that using --queue 0 on my S3's results in less DOA also  Smiley  (also running a local node)
That's interesting data.  I'm actually using the default values of 4096 on my local node and get 1-2% DOA.  I never really noticed much difference when I set the queue values to 0 or 1 or left it alone at stock.

I believe that using --queue 0 puts more load on the asic cpu, but I'm not sure tbh - it might be the other way round - maybe ck can chime in here. Using a queue setting of zero has generally been regarded as the way to go with p2pool since the early days, although obviously the tech has changed since mining with 5 series GPU's  Cheesy

Works good for me though..... Wink
If it works for you, then have at it.  Personally, I saw no difference with the different queue settings.  To be honest, I have no idea why Bitmain sets the queue value so high, and to understand it would require having their driver code.  Bitmain uses an older version of cgminer that they have customized, so expectations of queue settings based upon the latest version of the software may not apply to Bitmain's fork.

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August 15, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
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No  share?

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I believe there is something wrong with that node - according to the info bar on the left of the main page, the expected time to find a share is 49.4 days!!

If this is correct for a node that has 9GH/s, it's a seriously sick node - drop it immediately.
Nothing's wrong... the expected time to share for 9.01GH/s right now is:
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Difficulty * 2^32 / hash rate / 86400
8538174.25 * 2^32 / 9010000000 / 86400 = 47.107 days
47.107 days.

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August 15, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
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47 days?! For a share? On a 9GH node?

One of my nodes is less than 2GH - expected time to share is 5.5 hours...........

I think your probably mixing up GH/s and TH/s Wink At 2 TH/s you would be around 5 hours...
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August 15, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
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47 days?! For a share? On a 9GH node?

One of my nodes is less than 2GH - expected time to share is 5.5 hours...........
For Bitcoin?  The math doesn't work out that way.  Expected time to share is the formula I posted.  If you've got a Bitcoin p2pool node with only 2GH/s showing expected share time of 5.5 hours, something's wrong.  2GH/s expected time to share:
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8076919.15 * 2^32 / 2000000000 / 86400 = 200.753 days
You should see a share every 200.753 days, not 5.5 hours.  I've got near 4TH/s mining on p2pool, and my expected time to share is about 2.5 hours.  No way should your 2GH/s be anywhere near that.

EDIT: Of course, you could be mixing up your "G" and your "T" Smiley.  He's got 9 Gigahash per second.  I presume you meant you have 2 Terrahash per second, in which case your expected time to share is 4.82 hours.

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August 15, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
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47 days?! For a share? On a 9GH node?

One of my nodes is less than 2GH - expected time to share is 5.5 hours...........

I think your probably mixing up GH/s and TH/s Wink At 2 TH/s you would be around 5 hours...

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Not used to seeing a node in Gh anymore........ Cheesy Cheesy

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hi wlz2011, care to share what is the secret behind? Cry

Patience + love p2pool Wink
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