[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[norgan]

I've written a p2pool merged coin payout tool which tries to help with paying out merged coins, but I'll admit it's of limited value. That's mainly because of a few things out of my control:

https://github.com/hunterbunter/p2pool-merged-payout-tool

this is great, i'll be integrating it into my nodes as soon as I have some time.

[nreal]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

[norgan]

Anyone else seeing more orphans of late?

[DutchRIG]

Hi Guys,

I have added a p2pool node hosted in Amsterdam (Netherlands). Feel free to use it and spread the hash!

http://btcp2p.dutchpool.eu:9332/static/

[bryonp]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

[Littleshop]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now! 

[bryonp]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now! 

Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its aying around 50.00 for 2 says at 3 TH Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks

[bryonp]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now! 

Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its paying around 50.00 for 2 days at 3 TH Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks

[jedimstr]

Restart, we are going in a loop - no blocks.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank You its really bad.......................

We got a block now! 

Holly smokes I blocked...
Looks like its paying around 50.00 for 2 days at 3 TH Am I missing something???

Any Help in understanding??? Thanks

Luck works both ways.  There can be days when we can get 3 blocks in a row and get paid more overall than most pools. 

[mdude77]

Luck works both ways.  There can be days when we can get 3 blocks in a row and get paid more overall than most pools. 

Is that part I put in bold accurate?  Most pools, to my knowledge, pay entirely based on luck.

M

[nreal]

Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################

[xyzzy099]

Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################

The last time I saw that error, my bitcoin block chain was corrupted.  Rescan didn't fix it, and I had to re-download the whole damn thing.

[nreal]

Bitcoindqt here is 1 hour behind, node punishes all the time - what is going on?

Never ending punishment

2pool.util.jsonrpc.NarrowError: -2 Safe mode: Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.


2014-06-15 20:51:42.276634 > ########################################
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276732 > >>> Warning: (from bitcoind) Warning: The network does not appear to fully agree! Some miners appear to be experiencing issues.
2014-06-15 20:51:42.276794 > ########################################

The last time I saw that error, my bitcoin block chain was corrupted.  Rescan didn't fix it, and I had to re-download the whole damn thing.

I did that just yesterday, hardisk is going to give up then maybe, hd passed test...

It takes only 5 minutes to take a backup from .bitcoin directory and many hours to do it the hard way 

It was corrupted perhaps because of kernel options was not up to date with systemd

[phillipsjk]

Does anyone know of a way to capture the password input a miner uses? I'm wondering if it's possible for miners to differentiate workers this way.

I think you should assume that any password sent to a P2Pool node will be known to the node operator.

And, no, passwords are not a good way to differentiate users:
It’s Me, and Here’s My Proof: Why Identity and Authentication Must Remain Distinct

Published: February 14, 2006
By Steve Riley
Senior Security Strategist
Security Technology Unit
Microsoft Corporation

[ceslick]

Yeah, got 10 orphans today....

Had only 2 up until then.

[Hunterbunter]

Does anyone know of a way to capture the password input a miner uses? I'm wondering if it's possible for miners to differentiate workers this way.

I think you should assume that any password sent to a P2Pool node will be known to the node operator.

And, no, passwords are not a good way to differentiate users:
It’s Me, and Here’s My Proof: Why Identity and Authentication Must Remain Distinct

Published: February 14, 2006
By Steve Riley
Senior Security Strategist
Security Technology Unit
Microsoft Corporation

Hmm perhaps I should rephrase the question:

If a miner wanted to pass a simple message to the node operator, can they use the the password field? How does a node operator access it?

It's not for sensitive information, just trivial stuff.

[ratty]

I'm new to p2pool, I hope someone here can answer this, I've been mining Bitcoin for a day on it, and:

Code:

Local rate: 171GH/s (1.6% DOA) Expected time to share: 12.6 hours
Shares: 0 total (0 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: ???
Payout if a block were found NOW: 0 BTC to [redacted]

Is that normal to have 0 shares for that long? With that hash rate, how long should it take to solve a single share? My miner sees lots of accepted shares, so I don't think its a problem with the miner. The estimate said 12 hours, 12 hours ago, so I can't go by that. 2 blocks have been found by the whole p2pool since I started, so I'm worried I am getting absolutely no credit for hashing. Should I not bother with p2pool unless I have a terrahash or more?

[IYFTech]

I'm new to p2pool, I hope someone here can answer this, I've been mining Bitcoin for a day on it, and:

Code:

Local rate: 171GH/s (1.6% DOA) Expected time to share: 12.6 hours
Shares: 0 total (0 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: ???
Payout if a block were found NOW: 0 BTC to [redacted]

Is that normal to have 0 shares for that long? With that hash rate, how long should it take to solve a single share? My miner sees lots of accepted shares, so I don't think its a problem with the miner. The estimate said 12 hours, 12 hours ago, so I can't go by that. 2 blocks have been found by the whole p2pool since I started, so I'm worried I am getting absolutely no credit for hashing. Should I not bother with p2pool unless I have a terrahash or more?

Yeah, it can be like that - just be patient & they will come - but 171Gh isn't so much nowadays 


Is anyone using Dragon 1Th on p2pool? Care to share your experiences? Thinking of getting a few if they're compatible......

[jedimstr]

I'm new to p2pool, I hope someone here can answer this, I've been mining Bitcoin for a day on it, and:

Code:

Local rate: 171GH/s (1.6% DOA) Expected time to share: 12.6 hours
Shares: 0 total (0 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: ???
Payout if a block were found NOW: 0 BTC to [redacted]

Is that normal to have 0 shares for that long? With that hash rate, how long should it take to solve a single share? My miner sees lots of accepted shares, so I don't think its a problem with the miner. The estimate said 12 hours, 12 hours ago, so I can't go by that. 2 blocks have been found by the whole p2pool since I started, so I'm worried I am getting absolutely no credit for hashing. Should I not bother with p2pool unless I have a terrahash or more?

Yeah, it can be like that - just be patient & they will come - but 171Gh isn't so much nowadays  


Is anyone using Dragon 1Th on p2pool? Care to share your experiences? Thinking of getting a few if they're compatible......

Worse than the S2's on p2pool.  You'd be lucky to get 800gh per dragon pointing it to a p2pool node. At least that's what I've experienced from rentals. So far the avoid for p2pool list for me includes: S2, dragons, and Cointerra.

The goto list for rentals/physical p2pool compatible (full hashrate) include: S1's, KNC and Spondoolies.  

Haven't seen what the Rockminers (R or Box) do with p2pool yet.

[mdude77]

I'm new to p2pool, I hope someone here can answer this, I've been mining Bitcoin for a day on it, and:

Code:

Local rate: 171GH/s (1.6% DOA) Expected time to share: 12.6 hours
Shares: 0 total (0 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: ???
Payout if a block were found NOW: 0 BTC to [redacted]

Is that normal to have 0 shares for that long? With that hash rate, how long should it take to solve a single share? My miner sees lots of accepted shares, so I don't think its a problem with the miner. The estimate said 12 hours, 12 hours ago, so I can't go by that. 2 blocks have been found by the whole p2pool since I started, so I'm worried I am getting absolutely no credit for hashing. Should I not bother with p2pool unless I have a terrahash or more?

What newcomers to p2pool usually don't immediately grasp is there are two types of shares in p2pool.  The type that you see your miner submitting all the time, and the type that really count. It's the second type that you aren't getting many of.

To elaborate, p2pool uses an "alt chain" of shares to keep track of who's submitted shares.  You can consider that "alt chain" to be like another coin, with a much much lower difficulty.  p2pool adjusts the difficulty required to get on that chain so that miners are getting shares on the chain roughly 30 seconds.  (I think that's the number, the wiki might be outdated).  That means the more people there are mining, the faster shares are found, so difficulty goes up.

Right now that share difficulty is at 1,809,778.  Your 171gh/s needs to find a share of that value or greater (at the time of this post), to get on that chain.  That's why it's estimating it'll take you 12.6 hours to find a share.

The good news is once you get a share, it's good for 3 days.  So, at current numbers, making it 12 hours per share to make it easy, you should have 6 shares on the chain at any given point, assuming average luck.  That's where variance comes in ... sometimes that number will be higher, sometimes that number will be lower.

M