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November 16, 2013, 06:12:24 PM
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Current round duration: 10:13:36.  Does everyone in the pool work on the same potential block or while some of us are hashing for 10 hours for .011btc others in the pool are making 0.11 in like an hour?

And what are empty blocks?  Can Slush find ourselves mining an empty block?  How long before it's considered too long to be crunching data, 12 hours, 18 hours? 24 hours?

you have activity of 210 on the forums and you do not understand how pool mining works............... I am actually shocked.

I have more then both of you and still don't understand it %100. Pool operators really don't have a manual presented when you join up and you have to learn about hidden fees, very slow pay outs and all that stuff on your own. High post count or how old our account is does NOT determine how much we know. If we all "assumed" this, we would all be assholes.


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November 16, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
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FINALLY.....
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November 16, 2013, 06:18:11 PM
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Slush PLEASE READ THIS:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334316.0

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November 16, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
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Current round duration: 10:13:36.  Does everyone in the pool work on the same potential block or while some of us are hashing for 10 hours for .011btc others in the pool are making 0.11 in like an hour?

And what are empty blocks?  Can Slush find ourselves mining an empty block?  How long before it's considered too long to be crunching data, 12 hours, 18 hours? 24 hours?

you have activity of 210 on the forums and you do not understand how pool mining works............... I am actually shocked.

I have more then both of you and still don't understand it %100. Pool operators really don't have a manual presented when you join up and you have to learn about hidden fees, very slow pay outs and all that stuff on your own. High post count or how old our account is does NOT determine how much we know. If we all "assumed" this, we would be be assholes.



Yes, like we do a transaction and it goes into a block.  Bitcoin claims no central authority but who puts the transaction into a block?  There's a blockchain that takes days to download.  Transactions are in blocks.  All transactions back to the beginning recorded.  Somewhere it's decided that the transaction just sent out goes into a block somewhere.

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November 16, 2013, 06:21:04 PM
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Chief of the boat use to keep the slush fund.  Usually an old, overweight chief petty officer who's got more sea time than god.  He was referred to as The COB.  Reasonable rates, 10%/week.

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November 16, 2013, 06:28:27 PM
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Hi slush,
I´m having trobles accessing btcs on an old account because I can no longer acces the emailaccount. I also wrote you an email and a private message. Please help me.

greetings,
Marmeladensuppe

I have the same problem, but slush just ignores me  Sad
Or did my mails went into his spam folder?
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November 16, 2013, 07:59:02 PM
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+21 million

The exchange rate value of everyone's Bitcoins depends on killing the lists. Including you, me, Slush, and everyone mining.



Support the discouraging of address re-use.



Slush, you should already be familiar with BIP32. Locking to an address keychain is a superior alternative to locking to a static address, you don't need me to tell you.




Support the discouraging of address re-use.

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November 16, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
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Okay, this is how it works... sorta.

Starting with a found block. we start looking for the next block. The next block isn't one specific block but any of a number of solutions that meet the difficulty criteria. There are several inputs that go into finding the next block including the solution to the previous block. some of them are the Coinbase which is where the various pools label themselves among other things. and the transactions to be included. When you request work, the pool puts together a unique input for you to hash. So, even though we are all looking for a next block, we are not all looking for the exact same solution.

If another pool or solo miner finds a qualifying block before we do, the pool tells us to stop working with what we have and start working with new inputs partly based on the new block that was found. If others keep finding blocks before we do, the time duration of out round goes up. yeah, a 12 hour round sucks, but it gets averaged out by short rounds eventually.

Now, about the worker hashrate displayed. It has been my observation that the hash displayed for a worker will be wrong if you start in the middle of a round. it will be too low. The longer the round, the bigger the error. You get the most accurate estimate if your worker is already running when the round starts.
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November 16, 2013, 10:51:04 PM
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Okay, this is how it works... sorta.

Starting with a found block. we start looking for the next block. The next block isn't one specific block but any of a number of solutions that meet the difficulty criteria. There are several inputs that go into finding the next block including the solution to the previous block. some of them are the Coinbase which is where the various pools label themselves among other things. and the transactions to be included. When you request work, the pool puts together a unique input for you to hash. So, even though we are all looking for a next block, we are not all looking for the exact same solution.

If another pool or solo miner finds a qualifying block before we do, the pool tells us to stop working with what we have and start working with new inputs partly based on the new block that was found. If others keep finding blocks before we do, the time duration of out round goes up. yeah, a 12 hour round sucks, but it gets averaged out by short rounds eventually.

Now, about the worker hashrate displayed. It has been my observation that the hash displayed for a worker will be wrong if you start in the middle of a round. it will be too low. The longer the round, the bigger the error. You get the most accurate estimate if your worker is already running when the round starts.


So Coinbase is a central authority of sorts.  Does the pool request in a manner similar to our miners requesting work?  We request work from our pool.  From whom does the pool request work?  Does the pool requesting work differ from a solo miner mining the data in his bitcoin blockchain (guessing)?

 

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November 17, 2013, 06:03:15 AM
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Come on round! You've gone on long enough!

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November 17, 2013, 07:57:27 AM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/11/13/sanitizing-bitcoin-coin-validation/

anyone read about this Huh this could mean the end of bitcoin. It goes against the core value's of bitcoin !

winklevoss scum.
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November 17, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
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We're waiting for more than 50 minutes for the next block, (yes, block, not round).
What's interesting is that the new difficulty is going to be "only" 19 % higher than the current one.

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So it has taken 1h 13min to find the first block with the new difficulty. Quite a long block...
Difficulty increase is 19.29 %. The least value of last several retargets.
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November 17, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
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So Coinbase is a central authority of sorts.  Does the pool request in a manner similar to our miners requesting work?  We request work from our pool.  From whom does the pool request work?  Does the pool requesting work differ from a solo miner mining the data in his bitcoin blockchain (guessing)?

No central authority... Pool creates the work, doesn't request any. Same does a solo miner.
There's no "his" blockchain, there's one chain for everybody.
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November 17, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
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Uh...how did one of my workers go from working fine to last share seen over seven hours ago within a few minutes??

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Now it's saying last share was an hour ago....ugh.



I happen to be in an area expecting strong storms later today, but nothing is close to me yet...I guess my power/net must have just gone out. Eight hours till I get off work and find out what happened....

Just passing time.
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November 17, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
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http://bfljalapeno.blogspot.co.uk/

Don't put your finger in a high powered fan (with pictures)

not too gory, but take heed!

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November 17, 2013, 06:00:15 PM
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Just a feature request:
Date based payouts. Daily weekly etc...

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November 17, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
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Just a feature request:
Date based payouts. Daily weekly etc...
+1

Would be useful but don't expect this feature since slush will veto it because he's not interested.

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November 17, 2013, 10:36:20 PM
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Uh...how did one of my workers go from working fine to last share seen over seven hours ago within a few minutes??

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Now it's saying last share was an hour ago....ugh.



I happen to be in an area expecting strong storms later today, but nothing is close to me yet...I guess my power/net must have just gone out. Eight hours till I get off work and find out what happened....

this tends to happen when a slush back end server isnt communicating with the others. I havent seen it happen in awhile but then again I dont babysit my miners anymore.
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November 18, 2013, 01:31:40 AM
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I don't normally babysit my miners but I just started up some Blue Fury's and the first few days were a challenge. They have settled down and hash just fine now, but one of them didn't want to behave those first few days so I had to keep an eye on it.


Just passing time.
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November 18, 2013, 01:59:41 AM
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307,545.447 Ghash/s and here's another seven plus hour block? On the heels of a six plus, with a twelve plus just yesterday? Will every pool, in the long run. have an average luck around 100%? WTF gives? I like Slush's pool, it was my first pool and I've stuck with it since, but is there a better choice out there for a poor dust miner? Am I whining too much? I don't really babysit my miners, but cheez, I like to see a /little/ progress. This sucks.

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