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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4340019 times)
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November 03, 2013, 01:42:41 AM
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So do we think it's a luck issue or something else?

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November 03, 2013, 03:27:03 AM
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What is 100% luck on Slush's Pool? One block every 2 or 2 1/2 hours or so? How do you figure that out? I assume it's  the same on any pool, of course...


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November 03, 2013, 08:34:41 AM
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What is 100% luck on Slush's Pool? One block every 2 or 2 1/2 hours or so? How do you figure that out? I assume it's  the same on any pool, of course...
The difficulty is now 390928787, if we have found the block with less than 390928787 shares submitted our luck is over 100% and it depends on the pool speed in how many hours it will have those shares

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November 04, 2013, 02:56:50 AM
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20716   2013-11-03 19:00:44   2:48:28   640020758   14   0.00000001   267753   25.00640770
20715   2013-11-03 16:12:16   2:43:32   613954039   4   0.00000077   267734   25.06215995

Why did I get 77 times smaller reward for block #267753?

20713   2013-11-03 12:44:03   2:13:30   495956341   3   0.00000000   267704   25.00660000
20719   2013-11-04 00:40:05   3:31:47   809831549   19   0.00000000   267796   25.04563032

0 for these...
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November 04, 2013, 03:45:30 AM
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20716   2013-11-03 19:00:44   2:48:28   640020758   14   0.00000001   267753   25.00640770
20715   2013-11-03 16:12:16   2:43:32   613954039   4   0.00000077   267734   25.06215995

Why did I get 77 times smaller reward for block #267753?

20713   2013-11-03 12:44:03   2:13:30   495956341   3   0.00000000   267704   25.00660000
20719   2013-11-04 00:40:05   3:31:47   809831549   19   0.00000000   267796   25.04563032

0 for these...

Because your submitted shares over that time period are so low and you probably didn't hit any at near the end of the block.  Slush's pool makes you the most when you hit shares right before a block is found because of the way that the scoring works.  It's happened to me before, when my miner died and I didn't notice because I was at work.  Managed to reset it remotely, but the lack of submitted shares over that down time and a block getting solved means your score drops down.  I am assuming that your shares are the 14, 4, 3, and 19 numbers.  You may either want to upgrade to ASICs or, if you're usings GPUs mine litecoin or novacoin. 
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November 04, 2013, 04:33:14 AM
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Holy Crap, 100 TH!? It's been awhile since I looked at the subject. That's a lot of hash.

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November 04, 2013, 04:59:50 AM
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What is 100% luck on Slush's Pool? One block every 2 or 2 1/2 hours or so? How do you figure that out? I assume it's  the same on any pool, of course...
The difficulty is now 390928787, if we have found the block with less than 390928787 shares submitted our luck is over 100% and it depends on the pool speed in how many hours it will have those shares

I see, very interesting. This is also why it's important for us (Slush) to keep adding hashrate, yes?

Thanks for replying!

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November 04, 2013, 06:26:58 AM
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20716   2013-11-03 19:00:44   2:48:28   640020758   14   0.00000001   267753   25.00640770
20715   2013-11-03 16:12:16   2:43:32   613954039   4   0.00000077   267734   25.06215995

Why did I get 77 times smaller reward for block #267753?

20713   2013-11-03 12:44:03   2:13:30   495956341   3   0.00000000   267704   25.00660000
20719   2013-11-04 00:40:05   3:31:47   809831549   19   0.00000000   267796   25.04563032

0 for these...


you must be very hopeful on the price of Bitcoin going up mining with such a low speed. be lucky to get a bitcent after 100,000 days

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November 04, 2013, 08:51:20 AM
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Holy Crap, 100 TH!? It's been awhile since I looked at the subject. That's a lot of hash.
That is an old number. The pool is at 270+ TH right now.
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November 04, 2013, 11:04:20 AM
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20722   2013-11-04 09:52:02   3:40:52   835064281   285688   0.00001435   267875    25.06305140
20721   2013-11-04 06:11:10   3:05:28   706831627   300746   0.00997631   267836    25.03371620

WTF! This is why Slush will NEVER become the biggest pool!
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November 04, 2013, 11:34:15 AM
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I see, very interesting. This is also why it's important for us (Slush) to keep adding hashrate, yes?
Err luck and hashrate are not related by any means.
You may be lucky to find a block while CPU mining now, or never find a block even with an ASIC

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November 04, 2013, 01:29:27 PM
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Holy Crap, 100 TH!? It's been awhile since I looked at the subject. That's a lot of hash.

The Evil BTCGuild has broken the 1 Petahash/s mark...
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November 04, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
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20722   2013-11-04 09:52:02   3:40:52   835064281   285688   0.00001435   267875    25.06305140
20721   2013-11-04 06:11:10   3:05:28   706831627   300746   0.00997631   267836    25.03371620

WTF! This is why Slush will NEVER become the biggest pool!
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November 04, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
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20716   2013-11-03 19:00:44   2:48:28   640020758   14   0.00000001   267753   25.00640770
20715   2013-11-03 16:12:16   2:43:32   613954039   4   0.00000077   267734   25.06215995

Why did I get 77 times smaller reward for block #267753?

20713   2013-11-03 12:44:03   2:13:30   495956341   3   0.00000000   267704   25.00660000
20719   2013-11-04 00:40:05   3:31:47   809831549   19   0.00000000   267796   25.04563032

0 for these...

It looks like your hash rate is really low based on the number of your shares and the length of time on those blocks.  You should probably switch to another pool that uses a pay per share method of compensation.  To fight against pool hoppers slush uses a scoring method that gives more points the newer the share is.  You can work out the math, but my general understanding is that any share older than ten minutes after the pool solves a block is pretty much worthless.  As an example...if you had 300000 shares in the first thirty minutes of a block and then turned your miners off, if the block got solved an hour later your reward would be 0.

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November 04, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
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20716   2013-11-03 19:00:44   2:48:28   640020758   14   0.00000001   267753   25.00640770
20715   2013-11-03 16:12:16   2:43:32   613954039   4   0.00000077   267734   25.06215995

Why did I get 77 times smaller reward for block #267753?

20713   2013-11-03 12:44:03   2:13:30   495956341   3   0.00000000   267704   25.00660000
20719   2013-11-04 00:40:05   3:31:47   809831549   19   0.00000000   267796   25.04563032

0 for these...

It looks like your hash rate is really low based on the number of your shares and the length of time on those blocks.  You should probably switch to another pool that uses a pay per share method of compensation.  To fight against pool hoppers slush uses a scoring method that gives more points the newer the share is.  You can work out the math, but my general understanding is that any share older than ten minutes after the pool solves a block is pretty much worthless.  As an example...if you had 300000 shares in the first thirty minutes of a block and then turned your miners off, if the block got solved an hour later your reward would be 0.

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Some of us have experienced the issue of not being paid (or, losing pay) for shares which met the score criteria. At least for me, that was my concern. I have been slush-loyal for months, and suddenly my confirmed payout started dropping, along with unconfirmed payout, and for a couple of days with just 60gh/+ pointed at slush, I wasn't getting anything--despite new blocks being found.

Something is up. Could be something innocent/simple, as recently changes have been made to his end.

I switched most of my power to another pool and haven't had an issue. Not knocking slush, but something just seems off.

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November 05, 2013, 02:35:38 AM
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I switch back to slush when 50btc was hacked, also their connect drops more than normal.... Coming back to slush, I had no issues with payout, rewards, and connections......
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November 05, 2013, 08:00:00 AM
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20722   2013-11-04 09:52:02   3:40:52   835064281   285688   0.00001435   267875    25.06305140
20721   2013-11-04 06:11:10   3:05:28   706831627   300746   0.00997631   267836    25.03371620

WTF! This is why Slush will NEVER become the biggest pool!
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November 05, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
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Can someone please tell how can i ajust miner's difficulty ?
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November 05, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
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Can someone please tell how can i ajust miner's difficulty ?

He recently went to vardiff I believe, so the pool adjusts it dynamically for you. There used to be a difficulty box you could edit on the worker screen.

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November 05, 2013, 01:14:42 PM
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slush, this is propagation on your latest block:

Type   Block
First Seen   2013-11-05 13:44:16
Last Seen   2013-11-05 13:33:40   )<---- no clue about this.  i suspect it's supposed to be 13:44:40, lol
First Relayed   129.132.230.76
Probable Owner   0.0.0.0 (66 %)
129.132.230.76 (17 %)
129.132.230.82 (5 %)
162.243.1.22 (7 %)
Nodes Connected   628
Total Relayed   267
Percent Of Network   43 %

Summary
Type   Block
First Seen   2013-11-05 13:44:16
Last Seen   2013-11-05 13:45:31
First Relayed   129.132.230.76
Probable Owner   0.0.0.0 (66 %)
129.132.230.76 (17 %)
129.132.230.82 (5 %)
162.243.1.22 (7 %)
Nodes Connected   640
Total Relayed   269
Percent Of Network   42 %


Summary
Type   Block
First Seen   2013-11-05 13:44:16
Last Seen   2013-11-05 13:45:58
First Relayed   129.132.230.76
Probable Owner   0.0.0.0 (66 %)
129.132.230.76 (17 %)
129.132.230.82 (5 %)
162.243.1.22 (7 %)
Nodes Connected   645
Total Relayed   272
Percent Of Network   42 %

...  the 129.132.230's grabbed it first, delaying propagation.  You should block them

oh, and now:

Summary
Type   Block
First Seen   2013-11-05 13:44:16
Last Seen   2013-11-05 13:37:46     <--- uh, ok.
First Relayed   129.132.230.76
Probable Owner   0.0.0.0 (66 %)
129.132.230.76 (17 %)
129.132.230.82 (5 %)
162.243.1.22 (7 %)
Nodes Connected   700
Total Relayed   443
Percent Of Network   63 %

so I grabbed another.. it's about 5minutes later:

Type   Block
First Seen   2013-11-05 13:44:16
Last Seen   2013-11-05 13:50:22
First Relayed   129.132.230.76
Probable Owner   0.0.0.0 (66 %)
129.132.230.76 (17 %)
129.132.230.82 (5 %)
162.243.1.22 (7 %)
Nodes Connected   705
Total Relayed   450
Percent Of Network   64 %


... it even caused blockchain to go out of order (re: orphan blocks, before having the predecessor)

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