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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 83912 times)
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July 15, 2018, 01:36:37 PM
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welcom to the offcial slack/discord,you will find community is on Captain's side,without ban anyone now.

I've been in the community for several month,all long term supporters/short term supporters I know are with Captain.
No body feels dero is a scam except you two.

You have your option well known now,and that's all.Pls stop spam the ANN thread,start your own thread to spread your words.
Your action makes feel disgusting.

We have verifiable truths, and all you have is "feel"

Not a single thing we said has been refuted, all we got was baseless accusations that we directly proven wrong, and "feels". If they have nothing concrete to offer, why are you fighting back on their behalf?

Lifetyper, I thought you are an engineer, and you are experienced in life. I thought you would at least be able to see things better... Honestly, I'm disappointed in you

welcom to the offcial slack/discord,you will find community is on Captain's side,without ban anyone now.



Wait you are even abandoning the ANN thread to keep people in places we can't answer your lies with evidence of the truth?   Undecided Embarrassed
If not agree with you is disappointing you,then,I don't see anyone in the community not disappointing you right now.Do you?

For the truth part,I measured the block time i about 10sec and the reward for each block is 1.56dero,so total reward in one day is  13478dero.
Compare to 26 dero reward with 2 mins block time in old version,with a 18720 dero reward/day,it does reduce the reward for ASIC miner.How can you claim that reward curve adjust never take effect?

I got this truth the first day atlantis launched since I use nicehash to mine,I have to calc my profit,this can be easily figure out by the NW hashrate drop.Give me your calculation pls.

side block generated faster than expected,this could be a bug to fix or something out of prediction.that's something we didn't met in testnet,I can take it as much as a bug,but scam?come on.

For the 3.07 min block time in old version,I can't get any timestamp info for that in atlantis since old blocks were imported in this version.
So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

The premine is not locked,also not spent,truth is simple.

Even if captain want to use premine for marketing,I'm glad to see that,I hate to trade only on two f*cking small exchanges.For so many months,nothing improved in marketing for such a great project.If Captain can dump 2M premine,I can dump my dero too.

PPL do everthing to chase profit,that's what I believed.This apply to you,to captain,and to all community members and miners.
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July 15, 2018, 02:51:34 PM
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We didn't ban people

hahaha, what?! in the discord you banned people left and right (won't even mention you cheaply denigrating other projects for no apparent reason, as that has been mentioned multiple times by others. really shameful behaviour by someone who's supposed to be a professional PR person. you're not worth even 140$, let alone 1400$/month). if DERO is a scam, you're a WILLING PARTICIPANT and as such an ACCESSORY, a scammer and a liar, and all your posturing about wanting "the best for the community" or some other such nonsense is very transparent.

why would anyone believe someone who has been LYING FOR MONTHS when that lying was for their own financial benefit, and now that it isn't, you're suddenly "honest" and supposedly not lying anymore? you're a natural born liar. you disgust me. and even though i sold my dero quite a while ago, i hope they succeed in everything they set out to do just to prove you 2 wrong, so that you finally lose ALL your "credibility" in the crypto world and never go even near any other project ever again. begone, foul creatures!

WELL PUT.  These clowns think that there's even one person "appreciating" what they're doing then they are delusional.  They're only out for themselves and to cause trouble.  The spiteful, emotional, vengeful spirit with which they are going about this whole ordeal reeks of envy, greed, and immaturity.  You two have embarrassed yourselves for the rest of time, if it even is two, because you sure do type a lot and talk a lot like one another, despite one "supposedly" being canadian and the other lebanese... Somehow you are mightily similar...

Anyways, you can waste the rest of your lives spreading hate towards captain, while knowing that Dero will succeed regardless of what you two(one) manipulative morons think you have the power to do.  Congrats on selling all your Dero, nobody cares, except for you when you're old and wrinkly and looking back on the shameful moments of your life.
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July 15, 2018, 05:18:02 PM
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WELL PUT.  These clowns think that there's even one person "appreciating" what they're doing then they are delusional.  They're only out for themselves and to cause trouble.  The spiteful, emotional, vengeful spirit with which they are going about this whole ordeal reeks of envy, greed, and immaturity.  You two have embarrassed yourselves for the rest of time, if it even is two, because you sure do type a lot and talk a lot like one another, despite one "supposedly" being canadian and the other lebanese... Somehow you are mightily similar...

Anyways, you can waste the rest of your lives spreading hate towards captain, while knowing that Dero will succeed regardless of what you two(one) manipulative morons think you have the power to do.  Congrats on selling all your Dero, nobody cares, except for you when you're old and wrinkly and looking back on the shameful moments of your life.

Oh you got it completely wrong.. we are not looking for appreciation and are aware that most will hate us for bursting their bubble. We did it because we will not accept our ideologies to be trashed. We tried to handle it privately for so long, but when all tries were exhausted, we went public

As for our main thing here, not a single thing we said was refuted with evidence.. Not a single piece of evidence we provided was called out as false or proven false, not a single one. LifeTyper, this is why I'm disappointed in you specifically. I thought you are a person of logic, but apparently, I have some issues understanding people Sad


If not agree with you is disappointing you,then,I don't see anyone in the community not disappointing you right now.Do you?


I got this truth the first day atlantis launched since I use nicehash to mine,I have to calc my profit,this can be easily figure out by the NW hashrate drop.Give me your calculation pls.

side block generated faster than expected,this could be a bug to fix or something out of prediction.that's something we didn't met in testnet,I can take it as much as a bug,but scam?come on.

For the 3.07 min block time in old version,I can't get any timestamp info for that in atlantis since old blocks were imported in this version.
So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

PPL do everthing to chase profit,that's what I believed.This apply to you,to captain,and to all community members and miners.

Atlantis block times you didn't take a large enough sample, and didn't account for main height vs Topoheight, and didn't calculate reward difference between main block and side block.. You calculated 20% more blocks but my calculations are more accurate, 21% more blocks and 14% more rewards, that means emissions curve is generating now 14% more than intended.. And at the time captain approved my findings




For old block times, calculations are very simple, it lasted for 204 days with a target block time of 2 minutes, which means 720 blocks per day and total by the time we switched to Atlantis should have been 146880. However Atlantis switch block was 95550
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July 15, 2018, 07:21:18 PM
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what purpose do you pursue? What can the community do? Sell ​​everything like you?
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July 15, 2018, 07:27:17 PM
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WELL PUT.  These clowns think that there's even one person "appreciating" what they're doing then they are delusional.  They're only out for themselves and to cause trouble.  The spiteful, emotional, vengeful spirit with which they are going about this whole ordeal reeks of envy, greed, and immaturity.  You two have embarrassed yourselves for the rest of time, if it even is two, because you sure do type a lot and talk a lot like one another, despite one "supposedly" being canadian and the other lebanese... Somehow you are mightily similar...

Anyways, you can waste the rest of your lives spreading hate towards captain, while knowing that Dero will succeed regardless of what you two(one) manipulative morons think you have the power to do.  Congrats on selling all your Dero, nobody cares, except for you when you're old and wrinkly and looking back on the shameful moments of your life.

Oh you got it completely wrong.. we are not looking for appreciation and are aware that most will hate us for bursting their bubble. We did it because we will not accept our ideologies to be trashed. We tried to handle it privately for so long, but when all tries were exhausted, we went public

As for our main thing here, not a single thing we said was refuted with evidence.. Not a single piece of evidence we provided was called out as false or proven false, not a single one. LifeTyper, this is why I'm disappointed in you specifically. I thought you are a person of logic, but apparently, I have some issues understanding people Sad


If not agree with you is disappointing you,then,I don't see anyone in the community not disappointing you right now.Do you?


I got this truth the first day atlantis launched since I use nicehash to mine,I have to calc my profit,this can be easily figure out by the NW hashrate drop.Give me your calculation pls.

side block generated faster than expected,this could be a bug to fix or something out of prediction.that's something we didn't met in testnet,I can take it as much as a bug,but scam?come on.

For the 3.07 min block time in old version,I can't get any timestamp info for that in atlantis since old blocks were imported in this version.
So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

PPL do everthing to chase profit,that's what I believed.This apply to you,to captain,and to all community members and miners.

Atlantis block times you didn't take a large enough sample, and didn't account for main height vs Topoheight, and didn't calculate reward difference between main block and side block.. You calculated 20% more blocks but my calculations are more accurate, 21% more blocks and 14% more rewards, that means emissions curve is generating now 14% more than intended.. And at the time captain approved my findings




For old block times, calculations are very simple, it lasted for 204 days with a target block time of 2 minutes, which means 720 blocks per day and total by the time we switched to Atlantis should have been 146880. However Atlantis switch block was 95550
I shall never take something "already under investigation "as scam.
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July 15, 2018, 07:31:58 PM
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So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

Thank you deeply, but this does not make me a genius, nor does it even prove anything other than the fact that I found a serious issue that Captain and the developers didn't bother to fix despite being aware of the issue for 4-5 months.

Why are you calling the miners "stupid" and saying "screw them"? It's not their fault Captain did that... and I certainly would not call them stupid.
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July 15, 2018, 07:41:17 PM
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Please read back, and check all screenshots in https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

Our actions were directly against our "finacial benefit" as you put it, we both lost money by acting as captain requested back then...

I'm really not interested in the mud-slinging and he said/she said bullshit, but I do have one pertinent question: did you and/or Serena dump your DERO before publishing that article on Medium?

Bro the price dumped when Atlantis went from a custom anti asic algo to asic friendly one from 3 second block times to 9 second block times to 12 second block times from 500 tps to 75 tps avg 50 tps. To blame the price dump on them is ridiculous. It went from 79c-83c to 40c for a few minutes back up to 60-70c. This recent drama has barely affected the price. The damage was done when the community was lied to for months, over hyped, under delivered, had a bunch of people working on testnet preparing for a cpu minable dero network when they knew they had no intentions of moving from cryptonight asics.

Its also obvious sock puppet cheerleader accounts are being used to gas light the community while Captn repeatedly ignores criticism and responds with vague answer to virtually every question he even bothers to acknowledge.
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July 15, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
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It's hard for me to argue with you, I'm Russian and I write badly in English. What do you want to achieve? what is the goal? The developers are working on the project, but what are you doing?
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July 15, 2018, 07:50:15 PM
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Yeah, I sold 100% of my dero

You know you're not a saint in all this, right? Not you, and neither Mr. BotMojo. I've read all the conversations in french from the last days, and saw clearly the part when you praise Captain and how he's brilliant, how the tech is real, how they'll surely reveal themselves and release the code... and SUDDENLY you two turned sides. You two also are part of all the mess. You two obviously knew about the unlocked premine all the months before, but never cared about tell the truth before.

MagicSmoker asked if they sold their bags after or before the Medium arcticle. I think it's not even necessary for them to answer this. They were probably praising the project and its developer skills to gain some time for dump all what they had, and then reveal what they in fact think about all.
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July 15, 2018, 07:52:54 PM
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shake the apple tree so that everyone falls asleep with cones?
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July 15, 2018, 08:11:53 PM
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Wow
Such show
Much promotion

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July 15, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
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I'll buy another dero. Good price. the captain is working for good reason
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July 15, 2018, 08:20:33 PM
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offended the mouse, they wrote into the burrow? Normal people do not behave this way. Find out the relationship between each other. why all this put out in the people?
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July 15, 2018, 08:24:31 PM
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Please read back, and check all screenshots in https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

Our actions were directly against our "finacial benefit" as you put it, we both lost money by acting as captain requested back then...

I'm really not interested in the mud-slinging and he said/she said bullshit, but I do have one pertinent question: did you and/or Serena dump your DERO before publishing that article on Medium?

Bro the price dumped when Atlantis went from a custom anti asic algo to asic friendly one from 3 second block times to 9 second block times to 12 second block times from 500 tps to 75 tps avg 50 tps. To blame the price dump on them is ridiculous. It went from 79c-83c to 40c for a few minutes back up to 60-70c. This recent drama has barely affected the price. The damage was done when the community was lied to for months, over hyped, under delivered, had a bunch of people working on testnet preparing for a cpu minable dero network when they knew they had no intentions of moving from cryptonight asics.

Its also obvious sock puppet cheerleader accounts are being used to gas light the community while Captn repeatedly ignores criticism and responds with vague answer to virtually every question he even bothers to acknowledge.

I wasn't blaming anyone for anything, rather, I was asking if Mojo and/or Serena waited until after they published that Medium article before selling. Not that I expected a truthful answer, I just wanted to make sure the point was raised.

That said, it is possible to disapprove of both what CaptDero and these two have done; there is no mutual exclusion here.

The way I see things, there's plenty of bad behavior to go around, but while CaptDero has been arrogant ("I don't need to show no stinkin' code, nor reveal myself, nor make any promises or keep the ones I did make, etc."), Serena and Mojo have been malicious... Personally, I find malice far less forgivable.

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July 15, 2018, 08:24:54 PM
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This is the best promotion for DERO

Now price is very cheap ( x2 - x3 easy )

Project is very very good ,with high technological innovation

tnx for all Mojo and Serena
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July 15, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
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So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

Thank you deeply, but this does not make me a genius, nor does it even prove anything other than the fact that I found a serious issue that Captain and the developers didn't bother to fix despite being aware of the issue for 4-5 months.

Why are you calling the miners "stupid" and saying "screw them"? It's not their fault Captain did that... and I certainly would not call them stupid.

I have not met one miner who does not check if his income from pool is large enough to keep mining the coin with a profit and comparing that with other coins. Its literally impossible to screw miners because they monitor the payouts and prices constantly.
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July 15, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
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So,during 204 days,all stupid miners got a 35% reduction in mining reward and no one found it,yeah,stupid miners,screw them.Use your common sense,you're genius and discovered something all ppl never found.

Thank you deeply, but this does not make me a genius, nor does it even prove anything other than the fact that I found a serious issue that Captain and the developers didn't bother to fix despite being aware of the issue for 4-5 months.

Why are you calling the miners "stupid" and saying "screw them"? It's not their fault Captain did that... and I certainly would not call them stupid.

I have not met one miner who does not check if his income from pool is large enough to keep mining the coin with a profit and comparing that with other coins. Its literally impossible to screw miners because they monitor the payouts and prices constantly.

Numbers don't lie, if you have a calculator, you can check it yourself
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Yeah, I sold 100% of my dero

!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!

@Serena @Mojo_LB

Hello Serena and Mojo,

As you may know I invest Dero a lot beacuse of you spread very postive information in community. Now I know both of you confirm that you sold DERO you hold..

May I ask you a question that DO YOU SELL YOUR DERO AND THEN START WHAT YOU DO NOW?

It is really not acceptable you both as official team memeber saying this project is a scam after you clear your DERO. It is a typical inside trade and give us a very hard time.

Could you please let me know how you think of this part?
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July 16, 2018, 12:10:36 AM
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Don't ask too much questions. Be smart and sell your Dero.
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Yeah, I sold 100% of my dero

!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!QUESTION!!!!!!!

@Serena @Mojo_LB

Hello Serena and Mojo,

As you may know I invest Dero a lot beacuse of you spread very postive information in community. Now I know both of you confirm that you sold DERO you hold..

May I ask you a question that DO YOU SELL YOUR DERO AND THEN START WHAT YOU DO NOW?

It is really not acceptable you both as official team memeber saying this project is a scam after you clear your DERO. It is a typical inside trade and give us a very hard time.

Could you please let me know how you think of this part?



They wanted to be the champions of justice but they ended up being the first scammers.
as far as I'm concerned, I trust a lot more than the captain rather than them.
petty, unprofessional, defamatory and childish.

#GoDero #ImWithCapt

EDIT: I also imagine that the other day, (the day before the defamatory post) when you Serena came to cry in discord saying that you loved the project and asking to be reinstated, (begging community support above all) if you had been reinstated you would not have done all this mess, right?
In that case, all right, no scam, on the contrary, superproject, very cool, right?
You are poor men. Time will take care of erasing you.
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