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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 81233 times)
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June 19, 2018, 11:21:32 AM
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I tried 386 and amd64. Both said released 6/16. It’s Almost acting like I got Atlantis testnet versions, but I verified I downloaded the correct ones

Please download from here - http://seeds.dero.io/alpha/
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June 19, 2018, 08:38:12 PM
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i tried to backup my seed, but it says theres no balance in my wallet since it created a new wallet adress.
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June 20, 2018, 12:47:09 AM
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All good now. Some how I ended up on testnet downloads. Looked like it had regular and testnet so I assumed I was in the right place.
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June 20, 2018, 03:15:11 PM
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Hello people. Any news about Atlantis?
What do you guys say about This
Stuff i can buy? All used
 I5 3570k com cooler + 8(2x4)gb ram 1866mhz + board saberthooth z77 + ssd 120gb +hdd 500gb +fonte 600w gold + rx560 4gb
350€. Its a good price?
Like i Said i dont understand mutch about deskop
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June 20, 2018, 07:15:52 PM
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Here's a comparison between Dero and Monero transactions per second.

Dero: 75 TX/sec
Monero: 0.35 TX/sec

https://twitter.com/Serena_fox_dero/status/1007144912943501313



Weren't you quoting 500 transactions per second before?
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June 20, 2018, 07:57:55 PM
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Here's a comparison between Dero and Monero transactions per second.

Dero: 75 TX/sec
Monero: 0.35 TX/sec

https://twitter.com/Serena_fox_dero/status/1007144912943501313

http://i66.tinypic.com/16icl7t.png

Weren't you quoting 500 transactions per second before?

I think it could be that quantity if the block time were 3 seconds. Now, because of current global network conditions (specially in 3rd world countries), it was raised to ~9 seconds (for now).
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June 20, 2018, 08:49:40 PM
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Weren't you quoting 500 transactions per second before?

Yep, we're capable of more than 75 TPS with ~9 second blocks (now preparing for mainnet shift)

500TX/s @ ~3 second block times
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June 20, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
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Hello people. Any news about Atlantis?
What do you guys say about This
Stuff i can buy? All used
 I5 3570k com cooler + 8(2x4)gb ram 1866mhz + board saberthooth z77 + ssd 120gb +hdd 500gb +fonte 600w gold + rx560 4gb
350€. Its a good price?
Like i Said i dont understand mutch about deskop
1. The devs did not announce yet which algorithm will be used for mining after Atlantis, so we do not know if GPU mining will be possible (or profitable) on Dero. Maybe it will be not Cryptonight-family at all, or only CPU mining with daemon will be possible.
2. For mining rig 4Gb ram and 64Gb SSD is enough. You don't need hdd 500gb at all.
3. Power supply unit 600w will be enough only for ~2 video cards AMD and for ~3 NVidia. You should sum energy consumption for all your video cards and add ~100-150 W for the processor and other stuff.
4. Note, that AMD Ryzen 7 1700 processor gives ~520 H/s with overclocking on CryptoNight-V7, the same as Nvidia GTX 1060 - 6 Gb. But it gives only ~200 H/s on CryptoNight-Heavy (GTX 1060 gives ~420 H/s on heavy).  I5 3570 processor has only 6Mb L3 cash memory, so on CryptoNight-V7 you can use 3 threads with ~70*3=210 h/s and only 1 thread on CryptoNight-Heavy with ~70h/s, as it requires 4Mb L3 cash per thread.
5. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 is more energy effective with the same hashrate than Ryzen 7 1700x or Ryzen 7 1800. For Ryzen I suggest to buy a good cooler, as the cheap one will be noisy on full load. AMD processors are hotter than Intel.
6. RX560 4Gb is not good either, as it gives only ~310 H/s. The benchmarks for CryptoNight-V7 you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IrFEhWP89oG_BTUsQGS5IDG8LUYjCHDiRQkOuQ4a9A/edit#gid=1518673099
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June 20, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
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i must admit this is a coin that i do not understand.i miss the mechanics of it and i have to study it more because i get the feeling is not a shitcoin.

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June 21, 2018, 02:57:56 AM
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i must admit this is a coin that i do not understand.i miss the mechanics of it and i have to study it more because i get the feeling is not a shitcoin.

I think this is one of few coin that build it's own blockchain from the scratch https://github.com/deroproject Genesis Mainnet from December, 2017, combines something like DAG into blockchain with Hashing Algo Cryptonote. Good Coins, but at very small markets

"I select a very small number of things to be sceptical about, such as markets, and on these I am hypersceptic. But I want to be fooled by randomness in art." — Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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June 21, 2018, 06:53:38 AM
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Hello people. Any news about Atlantis?
What do you guys say about This
Stuff i can buy? All used
 I5 3570k com cooler + 8(2x4)gb ram 1866mhz + board saberthooth z77 + ssd 120gb +hdd 500gb +fonte 600w gold + rx560 4gb
350€. Its a good price?
Like i Said i dont understand mutch about deskop
1. The devs did not announce yet which algorithm will be used for mining after Atlantis, so we do not know if GPU mining will be possible (or profitable) on Dero. Maybe it will be not Cryptonight-family at all, or only CPU mining with daemon will be possible.
2. For mining rig 4Gb ram and 64Gb SSD is enough. You don't need hdd 500gb at all.
3. Power supply unit 600w will be enough only for ~2 video cards AMD and for ~3 NVidia. You should sum energy consumption for all your video cards and add ~100-150 W for the processor and other stuff.
4. Note, that AMD Ryzen 7 1700 processor gives ~520 H/s with overclocking on CryptoNight-V7, the same as Nvidia GTX 1060 - 6 Gb. But it gives only ~200 H/s on CryptoNight-Heavy (GTX 1060 gives ~420 H/s on heavy).  I5 3570 processor has only 6Mb L3 cash memory, so on CryptoNight-V7 you can use 3 threads with ~70*3=210 h/s and only 1 thread on CryptoNight-Heavy with ~70h/s, as it requires 4Mb L3 cash per thread.
5. AMD Ryzen 7 1700 is more energy effective with the same hashrate than Ryzen 7 1700x or Ryzen 7 1800. For Ryzen I suggest to buy a good cooler, as the cheap one will be noisy on full load. AMD processors are hotter than Intel.
6. RX560 4Gb is not good either, as it gives only ~310 H/s. The benchmarks for CryptoNight-V7 you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IrFEhWP89oG_BTUsQGS5IDG8LUYjCHDiRQkOuQ4a9A/edit#gid=1518673099

Good morning. Thanks for your Reply. Yes i know the ryzen are the best but i am on an low budget.that its for assembly an deskop, and my main concern its if the cpu its good. I Will wait that Atlantis release. About mining rig, i already have One with 6 RX 570 4gb. In monero they make arround 5200 H/s all toguether. Power from wall arround 650w.
But This can be improve i know.
They make each arround 850 H/s with BIOS mod.
Thank you
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June 21, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
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Now that there are many changes in the system, smaller markets may be better.
If it is expanded,Dero will be advantageous for trade.
Because Dero-atlantis is a faster coin in PoW , it arrives faster than other coins.
Because of hacking problem , we cann't put a large amount of coins on the exchange.
Fast and stable coins will be very important.


I cann't sync when using HDD too fast.
dero_windows_amd64_0.1.13-testnetAtlantis+20062018.zip
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June 21, 2018, 11:49:44 PM
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When can we expect Atlantis to go mainnet?
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June 22, 2018, 01:32:30 AM
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Please any news of mainnet
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June 22, 2018, 06:41:26 AM
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Reminder: The Dero Project team are getting ready to upgrade to our new Atlantis mainnet - testing is nearly complete and we will announce a block height snapshot soon
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June 22, 2018, 02:08:11 PM
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Reminder: The Dero Project team are getting ready to upgrade to our new Atlantis mainnet - testing is nearly complete and we will announce a block height snapshot soon

Getting excited!!!
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June 22, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
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I wonder if with this virtual machine is possible to create tokens?  Huh
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June 22, 2018, 06:19:39 PM
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Reminder: The Dero Project team are getting ready to upgrade to our new Atlantis mainnet - testing is nearly complete and we will announce a block height snapshot soon

Wonderful. I am hope all its working good.
And i wish i am able to mine with setup
I have trust in This project,
Can i ask how many members are part off the project?
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Last edit: July 20, 2018, 09:31:02 PM by --Serena--
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This is an update from the Dero Project team dated June.24/2018.


https://medium.com/@mojo_lb/to-whom-captain-deros-lead-developer-feels-it-does-not-concern-6df0a9ca692a

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg42520517#msg42520517

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg42204305#msg42204305
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June 24, 2018, 03:36:52 AM
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This is an update from the Dero Project team dated June.24/2018.

Hello everyone,

With the tests on the public testnet concluding, we’re getting ready to move to our Atlantis mainnet very shortly. We’ve learned a lot, and made some significant improvements to the Atlantis core. For example, the core cryptography runs ~8x faster on the Atlantis testnet than the current mainnet.

Since early February we’ve been reviewing several proof-of-work algorithms, the advanced mining hardware currently available, and the costs to mount an attack. For those who may been following our various social channels with regularity you may be familiar with the number of people looking to pass the Dero code to people in the semiconductor industry, the FPGA groups, and other advanced mining hardware builders.

This means we have people looking to build advanced mining hardware like ASIC and FPGA for any new algorithm as soon as the code is available. As we’ve all seen many times, hidden and secret mining is the number one threat to any proof-of-work based blockchain. At this time we’ve decided that the best thing for a strong and secure network is to retain our current proof-of-work algorithm (CryptoNight).

While we understand this is not the original goal, the information that we’ve gathered in the last few months points to some very particular needs to keep any proof-of-work based network truly safe from hidden mining. Below are a few of the more notable points in our history that led the Dero team to our current path.

Block #9900 - Attacked on Christmas - patch is released 24 hours later and vulnerability is closed.
Block #42100 - Attacked and unexpected series of soft forks - patch is released 48 hours later with many vulnerabilities closed.
Block #53600 - Attacked - sudden early transition to golang which had significant security upgrades. This stops the attack but was an unexpected early switch to the new mainnet.
Block #57000 - A very public call out to attackers including those hitting all existing CryptoNote network, XVG, bitcoin gold, etc.
Block #68600 - Attacked & unexpected hard fork - attack from people with advanced cryptography knowledge. A 70% hashpower attack results in 6-8% of mined blocks going to the attackers with a dozen orphans or so, and no network damage.
Block #82800 - Attacked ~550 MH/s to 1.95 GH/s - 70% attack with zero issues, and the public does not notice, but it is well recorded in the blockchain history.

As stated above, we’ve learned a lot in the 6 months that we’ve been working on the Dero Project, and we’ve had to face some difficult choices. One of the most difficult was the choice to retain the original CryptoNight proof-of-work algorithm for the sake of network security. This is something we’ve reviewed meticulously, and found that this is the most appropriate way to deal with the number one threat to network security: hidden mining.

Thanks to the work of our amazing research and development team, Dero is very pleased to announce that our Atlantis mainnet upgrade will be the first blockchain anywhere with true double spend immunity, and much more. We’ve also tested against an exhaustive number of attack vectors, and we feel confident in saying that we have the most resilient blockchain anywhere in the world to date.

Today, we can see that many networks are being attacked almost daily which costs exchanges and users millions of dollars a year in malicious double spends. Due to issues like this, the Dero Project team considers security to be the number one priority, and we’ve solved many critical problems facing all blockchains today, like malicious double spends.

It’s one thing to make claims like this, and quite another to prove them. The entire Dero team would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone in the community for their patience and support. We’re now officially getting the source code ready to push for the community to thoroughly review. You can expect the source code release to trail the mainnet launch by a few days to verify that Atlantis is capable of things like the following.

True double spend immunity with full decentralization
200x+ more scalable than Monero with all the privacy, plus more, and no compromises
SSL/TLS in p2p layer (currently confirmable in other ways)
No orphan blocks
Confirmation times of less than 99 seconds on the mainnet
~9 second PoW blocks

In February 2018 the Dero research and development team started work on a theoretical new directed acyclic graph (DAG) codenamed Atlantis to be released in the currently unannounced 2019 roadmap for Q1 2019. The sophistication and regularity of the attacks dictated the path the Dero team needed to take. As such, the Q1 2019 roadmap was quietly rescheduled to Q2 2018 to create the strongest possible core for Dero, and to prevent any nefarious actors from gaining any type of foothold, or advantage.

We’re proud to say that the theoretical DAG has proven to be a success so far, and we’re confident in saying that we have the most resilient blockchain network anywhere in the world to date. However, we’ve had to readjust our 2018 roadmap to accommodate the breakthrough new DAG and blockchain technologies. The Q2 and Q3 roadmap goals are now shifted back one quarter to Q3 and Q4 respectively. Again, the decision was made to move the roadmap goals from Q1 2019 to Q2 2018 to guarantee that Dero continues to have the most resilient blockchain network by far anywhere in the world today.

Moving forward we are going to take the experiences we’ve learned from our many lessons and be particularly cautious about our timelines, and roadmap goals. We are going to take the time as a team to be very cautious about what we say in regards to the previously mention points, and strive to maintain the highest degree of professionalism possible. We’re looking forward to meeting you all in person at conferences and revealing ourselves in the not so distant future, and we’re officially preparing to release the source now that the Atlantis core is essentially complete.

Thank you again to everyone for all your support.

The Dero Project team

After Atlantis this coin continue ASIC friend? really  Huh
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