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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 119834 times)
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July 16, 2018, 07:12:55 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

this remains to be proved
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July 16, 2018, 07:20:18 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

this remains to be proved
no need for any prove, we all knew this fact. There were several times when captain was traveling, the codev fix bugs and introduce new functions,.
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July 16, 2018, 07:50:05 PM
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For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.


Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.

Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF

DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.


Thanks.

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Captain

What does that answer? The 3 minutes block time persisted from Helium Hydra, which every other CN coin got it correctly, through the Golang version which you, no changes were ever made there till Atlantis starting block height 95551, and you knew about that issue since Feb, as shown in screenshots

After Atlantis, also as shown in screenshots, you knew the network is generating 14% more emissions and 21% more blocks than intended, while Topoheight to Height difference is way larger than your expected 10-15%, and as you say ALL IS VERIFIABLE yet you ignore every talk of it and brag about other things, that you are still promising to release code for it, which brings me to the following:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33097596#msg33097596
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33883051#msg33883051

To refresh your memory, and I intentionally snipped as well as linked, you have been promising code then delaying since March, days after the release of Golang version.. Not the version that's currently on github (derosuite), the privately written version that you are taking the focus away from it for unknown reasons...

Time over time you promised to release code, and every single time you delay.. Even on Atlantis you told us to tell everyone that it's going to be out after mainnet, then you said you want to give access to cryptographers only but refused every single person who came forward, many who are more experienced than you, also for yet unknown reasons... Then now you promise some devs private access to code, which I have no idea if you will go through with it, conspire with someone to say they did have access, or (most likely) just delay as usual also for unknown reasons..
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July 16, 2018, 08:00:08 PM
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That was literally a week or so before the last commit to github for the original golang version,Mojo and that's what was being referenced... It wasn't in reference to Atlantis at all.

Also the current version of Atlantis is V2, so yes there will be a release of the current code, to multiple coin devs.... this Friday.

DERO - Secure. Private. Smart Contracts.
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July 16, 2018, 08:01:54 PM
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Dero Technology: External Developer's Review

Call out to developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to review the Dero Atlantis source code and cryptography.

Venue: https://discord.gg/GmDgjkD Start Date: 20 July 2018 Start Time: 05:00 UTC Duration: Ongoing Instructions: On entry, please notify the moderators/DCAB members that you would like access to the Source Code AMA. You may be required to provide verification that you are a core developer of a cryptocurrency/blockchain project. No personal data is needed. You are encouraged to request for entry at your earliest convenience before or on 20 July 2018.

We are excited to announce that Dero is ready for it's external audit and review of it's technology, and we are inviting core developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to be a part of the process! If you are a cryptography expert, academic researchers not involved to any cryptocurrency or blockchain project, you are also welcome to request for access but you will be required to prove your identity, background and/or prior work.

Dero is an exciting new project that combines the powerful privacy features of the Cryptonote protocol with the fast transactional speeds from the Directed Acyclic Graph protocol. Rewritten from the ground up in Golang, Dero is also the first blockchain to have complete SSL in the P2P layer.

Among it's other features at the time of writing:

the zero-knowledge proof protocol Bulletproofs Ring Signature; and
75 transactions per second on native blockchain.
There are many more features to be added in the future, but the scope of this session will solely be for the purposes of reviewing the unique implementation of the network and cryptography. We fully welcome your questions and candor during the session and hope that it would be a productive event for everyone.

The session will be take place in a private channel in our Discord chatroom, and the session will be archived and made available to the public domain for the cryptocurrency/[Suspicious link removed]munity. Do not re-distribute the version of source code received. A publicly available version of the source code will be released at a later date.

From members of the Dero Community Advisory Board (DCAB)
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July 16, 2018, 08:17:56 PM
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Furthermore, it may be that Capt has his own reasons for not liking the way Serena/Mojo handled moderation, or thought they were doing things out of their remit, or any other number of things.  He hasn’t commented on those, but we can assume that he has his own side of the story, completely untold here. 


Captain "promoted" me to Serena's roles 12 hours before the AMA, and was scheduled to ANN during AMA Smiley
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July 16, 2018, 08:23:35 PM
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Furthermore, it may be that Capt has his own reasons for not liking the way Serena/Mojo handled moderation, or thought they were doing things out of their remit, or any other number of things.  He hasn’t commented on those, but we can assume that he has his own side of the story, completely untold here. 


Captain "promoted" me to Serena's roles 12 hours before the AMA, and was scheduled to ANN during AMA Smiley
while I do hate the way you treated community members for longtimr,even before you left.
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July 16, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
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Captain your patience is amazing. You never spoke a single negative word against this two self-proclaimed morons on any channel.
He made up multiple lies about our goals, and intentions which we verified were lies by him. A good example is him lying by saying we asked for part of the dero foundation, which is clearly not true based on the screenshots I provided. When he saw he was caught lying, he completely acted as though it had never happened. So, I wonder, how is slander appropriate when we've been able to prove everything we've said? Slander is false statements, like Captain's, our statements however have all been backed up with proof.
Only true professional can demonstrate such behavior and keep calm.
Discord users enjoyed the show how serena was literally begging community to take her back to the same community she used to ban and hate for no reason.
Why don't you ask Fishbulb why he got banned within a few minutes of Captain being online for politely voicing his opinion. This opinion whether right or wrong was in support of us at a time when Captain was clearly carrying on with his extremely and still ongoing deceptive behavior with the community.
serena is the same person who used to spread hatred on 4chan. She was back stabbing dero since beginning.
4chan comes up all the time when you're using index crawlers to find recent chats, but no, I don't spend any time on 4chan posting. I do learn some... interesting new words when I read the comments, and it gives me an idea what people might say when they feel comfortable to do so anonymously and away from the official social channels of dero.




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July 16, 2018, 08:47:30 PM
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while I do hate the way you treated community members for longtimr,even before you left.

Then why didn't you voice that when we were talking whether the ANN should be that night or during AMA in DCAB? And again, how is that on me and not on your captain who did the "promotion" ?

That's your Captain, ask him Wink
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July 16, 2018, 08:53:38 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2018, 09:14:17 PM by --Serena--
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Furthermore, it may be that Capt has his own reasons for not liking the way Serena/Mojo handled moderation, or thought they were doing things out of their remit, or any other number of things.  He hasn’t commented on those, but we can assume that he has his own side of the story, completely untold here.  


Captain "promoted" me to Serena's roles 12 hours before the AMA, and was scheduled to ANN during AMA Smiley
while I do hate the way you treated community members for longtimr,even before you left.

We were quite literally just following Captain's directions at the time, and if you take the time to think critically, you'll see that we were the people standing up for your interests, and those of the entire community. We did our best to be good team members who showed unity, and support for our team, while also trying to be the voices that the community needs to keep Captain honest even if it means that we may look negative in your eyes, and those of some others until you've had time to work your way through this in your own time.

I do find it curious (hilarious) that you can see for yourself which side we've been on (yours as a community member) and yet you still choose to ignore that for reasons beyond reasonable and logical comprehension.
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July 16, 2018, 09:41:28 PM
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I really dont think Serena and Mojo have been bad mods, yeah a few wrong bans perhaps, but it seems people are suddenly making all the problems of the project to be due to them. E.g. They didn't choose to disclose little to none information - they just didn't have any.

Can I ask the two of you (Mojo and Serena); You now say the project is a scam, is that due to the decisions of Captain regarding marketing/premine, or due to the tech? Do you still feel that the technology will be as promised?
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July 16, 2018, 10:22:14 PM
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Mojo and Serena, could you maybe stop whining again now? It serves absolutely no purpose and simply makes you look insane. And it's obvious you two coordinate when to shitpost in this thread for attention.

Why don't you find the ball paradise at your local mall instead or something...  Roll Eyes

There is no fame for you to be gained here. Good riddance.
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July 16, 2018, 10:47:01 PM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.
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July 16, 2018, 10:57:52 PM
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who  got rich during this scam?

This is million dollar question, thanks Lifetyper.
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July 16, 2018, 10:58:19 PM
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Dero Technology: External Developer's Review

Call out to developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to review the Dero Atlantis source code and cryptography.

Venue: https://discord.gg/GmDgjkD
Start Date: 20 July 2018
Start Time: 05:00 UTC
Duration: Ongoing
Instructions: On entry, please notify the moderators/DCAB members that you would like access to the Source Code AMA. You may be required to provide verification that you are a core developer of a cryptocurrency/blockchain project. No personal data is needed. You are encouraged to request for entry at your earliest convenience before or on 20 July 2018.

We are excited to announce that Dero is ready for it's external audit and review of it's technology, and we are inviting core developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to be a part of the process! If you are a cryptography expert, academic researchers not involved to any cryptocurrency or blockchain project, you are also welcome to request for access but you will be required to prove your identity, background and/or prior work.

Dero is an exciting new project that combines the powerful privacy features of the Cryptonote protocol with the fast transactional speeds from the Directed Acyclic Graph protocol. Rewritten from the ground up in Golang, Dero is also the first blockchain to have complete SSL in the P2P layer.

Among it's other features at the time of writing:

the zero-knowledge proof protocol Bulletproofs Ring Signature; and
75 transactions per second on native blockchain.
There are many more features to be added in the future, but the scope of this session will solely be for the purposes of reviewing the unique implementation of the network and cryptography. We fully welcome your questions and candor during the session and hope that it would be a productive event for everyone.

The session will be take place in a private channel in our Discord chatroom, and the session will be archived and made available to the public domain for the cryptocurrency/blockchain community. Do not re-distribute the version of source code received. A publicly available version of the source code will be released at a later date.

From members of the Dero Community Advisory Board (DCAB)

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July 16, 2018, 11:00:08 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

Prove it.

So what was Mojo's role if not dev?
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July 16, 2018, 11:02:59 PM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.
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July 16, 2018, 11:13:10 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

Prove it.

So what was Mojo's role if not dev?

He was a community mod/manager. No proof required, considering he is angry about not having the code released. If he was a dev, he could release it himself.

DERO - Secure. Private. Smart Contracts.
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July 16, 2018, 11:27:38 PM
Last edit: July 16, 2018, 11:38:30 PM by lifetyper
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?
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July 16, 2018, 11:51:44 PM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?

Please learn about the software -- a view wallet shows only incoming transactions.
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