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July 16, 2018, 10:17:33 AM
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All you claimed can only be taken as bug.Where is the scam?Did captain dump the premine?Anyone get rich in this scam?

Scam devs are sometimes even too dumb to pull off a scam. And believe it or not but some of them would even scam for a couple of dollars.
it is easy for the captain to make a new coin, sell all premine, should thank the serena and mojo for giving the correct information about the opening of the premine
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July 16, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
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Scam devs are sometimes even too dumb to pull off a scam. And believe it or not but some of them would even scam for a couple of dollars.
In this regard, of course everyone has a different appetite. Ranging from a couple of dollars to several million are now trading scammers. But many people do not want to learn to recognize scams, all want to just have a lot of money without doing anything.
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July 16, 2018, 11:03:28 AM
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are u idiots in this topic or what?

we are speaking about a project with less than 2 mln capitalization. in terms of numbers is almost 2000 ppl putting 1000 dollar each....

do u think ppl get poor for a fucking 1000 dollars?

for u is a scam? ok mojo and serena for me and others is not a problem to lose 1000 dollars... maybe for u is the 2 month salary.

than serena, mojo and other stupid members not relating to this project shut the fuck up.

hope this topic is closed

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July 16, 2018, 11:33:59 AM
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All you claimed can only be taken as bug.Where is the scam?Did captain dump the premine?Anyone get rich in this scam?

Scam devs are sometimes even too dumb to pull off a scam. And believe it or not but some of them would even scam for a couple of dollars.
it is easy for the captain to make a new coin, sell all premine, should thank the serena and mojo for giving the correct information about the opening of the premine

Dumping the 2m DERO premine is the last thing I'm worried about as there isn't anywhere close to enough liquidity - daily trading volume is less than 5 BTC.

In fact, the current liquidity is insufficient to sell even 1% of the premine (20k DERO) without taking more than 2 weeks or else accepting an average price of at least 50% down from the current bid to get sufficient depth in the order book.

So, I see the premine being unlocked as a bit of a red herring.

The one issue I do worry about is that currently the dev(s) are anonymous and the source is closed - basically, you can have one or the other in crypto, but not both - however the source is (supposedly) being released to any CryptoNote devs on July 20th, and more publicly a few weeks from now. This is a change in plans from the previous estimate of only releasing the source after a foundation was set up, so CaptDero seems to be responding to community pressure.

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July 16, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
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All you claimed can only be taken as bug.Where is the scam?Did captain dump the premine?Anyone get rich in this scam?

Scam devs are sometimes even too dumb to pull off a scam. And believe it or not but some of them would even scam for a couple of dollars.
it is easy for the captain to make a new coin, sell all premine, should thank the serena and mojo for giving the correct information about the opening of the premine

Dumping the 2m DERO premine is the last thing I'm worried about as there isn't anywhere close to enough liquidity - daily trading volume is less than 5 BTC.

In fact, the current liquidity is insufficient to sell even 1% of the premine (20k DERO) without taking more than 2 weeks or else accepting an average price of at least 50% down from the current bid to get sufficient depth in the order book.

So, I see the premine being unlocked as a bit of a red herring.

The one issue I do worry about is that currently the dev(s) are anonymous and the source is closed - basically, you can have one or the other in crypto, but not both - however the source is (supposedly) being released to any CryptoNote devs on July 20th, and more publicly a few weeks from now. This is a change in plans from the previous estimate of only releasing the source after a foundation was set up, so CaptDero seems to be responding to community pressure.



The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.
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July 16, 2018, 12:51:55 PM
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Dumping the 2m DERO premine is the last thing I'm worried about as there isn't anywhere close to enough liquidity - daily trading volume is less than 5 BTC.

In fact, the current liquidity is insufficient to sell even 1% of the premine (20k DERO) without taking more than 2 weeks or else accepting an average price of at least 50% down from the current bid to get sufficient depth in the order book.

So, I see the premine being unlocked as a bit of a red herring.

The one issue I do worry about is that currently the dev(s) are anonymous and the source is closed - basically, you can have one or the other in crypto, but not both - however the source is (supposedly) being released to any CryptoNote devs on July 20th, and more publicly a few weeks from now. This is a change in plans from the previous estimate of only releasing the source after a foundation was set up, so CaptDero seems to be responding to community pressure.


The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

I agree with you in principle but not in practice; do you understand the difference? Yes, it is totally wrong to unlock a previously locked premine, but with a daily trading volume in the range of 20-30k DERO you couldn't sell more than about 2k DERO per day without causing price to drop into the gutter. Ergo, this not nearly as troubling to me as the combo of anonymous dev(s) and unreleased source code.

As for DCAB being just a way to co-opt enemies, if you had actually bothered to read all of my posts rather than cherry-pick phrases - not even entire sentences - to respond to you might have noticed that this very thing had already occurred to me. Consequently, I seem to be playing the role of the Loyal Opposition on DCAB, to use a parliamentary turn of phrase, and I have even been somewhat successful at it.
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July 16, 2018, 01:02:52 PM
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The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

Dero is not your traditional copy/pasta fork blockchain or big ico without any successful working product. Dero is one of the legitimate product in recent time crypto has seen. Prior to atlantis version blocktime was 2 mins and now its 12 seconds. Blocktime has reduced 10 times. Even if premine was fully locked for 4 years earlier it would open in 48/10= 4.8 months. Those who are following dero deveopment since start will keep loving dero. Earlier It was high lighted by community itself to not lock premine till block-time is finalized..

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July 16, 2018, 01:51:37 PM
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MagicSmoker, just want to point out that your logic rests on the assumption that portions of the premine have not been slowly bled into the market over the past months. I am not claiming that to be the case, but rather only saying that given the closed source, the possibility cannot be ruled out.

You should ask yourself, I think, why it is that captain would post a screenshot of a view-only wallet to "prove" that the premine is intact, when that shows only incoming transactions. If he wants to show that, he should use the full wallet and show the outgoing transactions, too. But even then, we run into the closed-source problem, since a screenshot can be doctored, or generated with a wallet one-off compiled just for the purpose, or may show newly-minted dero being received.
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July 16, 2018, 02:53:01 PM
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The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

Dero is not your traditional copy/pasta fork blockchain or big ico without any successful working product. Dero is one of the legitimate product in recent time crypto has seen. Prior to atlantis version blocktime was 2 mins and now its 12 seconds. Blocktime has reduced 10 times. Even if premine was fully locked for 4 years earlier it would open in 48/10= 4.8 months. Those who are following dero deveopment since start will keep loving dero. Earlier It was high lighted by community itself to not lock premine till block-time is finalized..

no Serena is right, it wasn't 2 min in average,but about 3 minutes, it's very easy to verify it

in 7 month (before atlantis release) it should be around 150k blocks, in fact it was less than 100k.

with 2 minutes blocks, it's 720/day: 720*30*7= 151200
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July 16, 2018, 03:05:14 PM
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The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

Dero is not your traditional copy/pasta fork blockchain or big ico without any successful working product. Dero is one of the legitimate product in recent time crypto has seen. Prior to atlantis version blocktime was 2 mins and now its 12 seconds. Blocktime has reduced 10 times. Even if premine was fully locked for 4 years earlier it would open in 48/10= 4.8 months. Those who are following dero deveopment since start will keep loving dero. Earlier It was high lighted by community itself to not lock premine till block-time is finalized..

no Serena is right, it wasn't 2 min in average,but about 3 minutes, it's very easy to verify it

in 7 month (before atlantis release) it should be around 150k blocks, in fact it was less than 100k.

with 2 minutes blocks, it's 720/day: 720*30*7= 151200

What is significance of this?  Why did it happen?  I don’t full understand the Serena allegation that it means coins were “hidden mined” and siphoned off to an unknown wallet.  For this explanation to make sense, there would have to be other evidence.  As it stands, it means emission curve is lower, that’s all.  What is the other evidence concerning this issue?  What is Capt’s statement about it (if any)?
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The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

Dero is not your traditional copy/pasta fork blockchain or big ico without any successful working product. Dero is one of the legitimate product in recent time crypto has seen. Prior to atlantis version blocktime was 2 mins and now its 12 seconds. Blocktime has reduced 10 times. Even if premine was fully locked for 4 years earlier it would open in 48/10= 4.8 months. Those who are following dero deveopment since start will keep loving dero. Earlier It was high lighted by community itself to not lock premine till block-time is finalized..

no Serena is right, it wasn't 2 min in average,but about 3 minutes, it's very easy to verify it

in 7 month (before atlantis release) it should be around 150k blocks, in fact it was less than 100k.

with 2 minutes blocks, it's 720/day: 720*30*7= 151200

What is significance of this?  Why did it happen?  I don’t full understand the Serena allegation that it means coins were “hidden mined” and siphoned off to an unknown wallet.  For this explanation to make sense, there would have to be other evidence.  As it stands, it means emission curve is lower, that’s all.  What is the other evidence concerning this issue?  What is Capt’s statement about it (if any)?

but now the emission is higher than before, not the opposite
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The premine remaining unlocked isn't a red herring. When you say its locked and its not thats bad. When you say it'll be locked till x date and you're trying to dip into it prior to that it doesn't look good. Even if its for marketing and not his personal gain. There is absolutely zero excuse for that premine not being locked right now. He needs to start listening to others instead of astroturfing the ANN thread an purging anyone who doesn't just go along to get along. Creating a hand selected community committee is just another form of astroturfing. Its to appease the community an give the illusion that their voices matter when it clearly doesn't. Much like anytime someone brings up complaints in this ANN thread in come brand new accounts praising Dero an Captain trying to drown out any criticism. That isn't an effective long term strat as most people can see right through it.

Dero is not your traditional copy/pasta fork blockchain or big ico without any successful working product. Dero is one of the legitimate product in recent time crypto has seen. Prior to atlantis version blocktime was 2 mins and now its 12 seconds. Blocktime has reduced 10 times. Even if premine was fully locked for 4 years earlier it would open in 48/10= 4.8 months. Those who are following dero deveopment since start will keep loving dero. Earlier It was high lighted by community itself to not lock premine till block-time is finalized..

no Serena is right, it wasn't 2 min in average,but about 3 minutes, it's very easy to verify it

in 7 month (before atlantis release) it should be around 150k blocks, in fact it was less than 100k.

with 2 minutes blocks, it's 720/day: 720*30*7= 151200

What is significance of this?  Why did it happen?  I don’t full understand the Serena allegation that it means coins were “hidden mined” and siphoned off to an unknown wallet.  For this explanation to make sense, there would have to be other evidence.  As it stands, it means emission curve is lower, that’s all.  What is the other evidence concerning this issue?  What is Capt’s statement about it (if any)?

but now the emission is higher than before, not the opposite

So what exactly is the issue here, then?  Perhaps that is as intended, to compensate for the lower emission rate before?  I have read again, and more carefully and slowly than before, Serena and Mojo’s Medium article.  It is clear to me that they have only presented partial information as to what went wrong in the relationship between them and Capt.  After that careful reading, I can say with some confidence that there is no actual evidence of wrongdoing on Capt’s part.  Sure, there is the stuff about possibly using John McAfee, and perhaps using premine on a different schedule than before, and appointing members of DCAB rather than letting the community handle that entirely themselves, and Serena seemed to react (internally) very badly to these things.  But there is not even circumstantial evidence that Capt has acted dishonestly, and certainly not the sort of evidence you’d need to conclude that Dero is a ‘scam’ project, not even close.  Furthermore, it may be that Capt has his own reasons for not liking the way Serena/Mojo handled moderation, or thought they were doing things out of their remit, or any other number of things.  He hasn’t commented on those, but we can assume that he has his own side of the story, completely untold here. 

The unlocking of the premine, and the combination of anon devs and no source yet released, sure these are issues as have been discussed here a lot already, but these issues were already known before Serena and Mojo let themselves loose.  The issues of block times were not raised before, but anyone might have noticed those issues earlier as the data was already there.  The single new piece of information to come out of all that was the McAfee connection.  And it isn’t even certain that this is what Capt was going to do; it was just an idea he was toying with.

I have yet to collate the evidence that Serena and Mojo themselves operated a scam; I still think that is unlikely (though I would like to look at their communications, in combination with Capt’s, through the pumping and subsequent dumping period, to see if there is any circumstantial evidence).  The provisional conclusion I have come to so far is:

- Capt likes to run this project along his own terms and according to his own preferences, and does not run it as a community project in the way that Serena, and possibly Mojo, originally conceived of and perhaps thought they had signed up to when joining the project

- Capt is also willing to change the way things work, adapting to changing conditions, as time goes along; which S/M interpreted as “going back on commitments or ideals” rather than flexibly changing the way the project was run to adapt to changing circumstances (e.g. the ASIC stuff and McAfee)

- Serena, and to a lesser extent Mojo, went beyond their remit in trying to control the way the project was run, according to their ideals rather than Capt’s preferences

- Communication between S/M and Capt started to break down as a result of this, and Capt communicated less with them the more important information of the project, and this made the frustrations of S/M worse

- It got to a point where they found the working conditions intolerable and abruptly left, causing all the mayhem we have experienced

I am not passing judgment on the way they handled this or on them as people, I am just trying to come to an objective viewpoint about what happened.  I also understand less clearly Mojo’s role in all of this; it looks like he increasingly came under the spell of Serena’s thinking, but it is not clear.  As far as it goes though I think the above interpretation fits the facts as we know them.

For us as a community, there are these outstanding issues I think, in no particular order:

1. the locking of premine
2. the changing emission rates
3. the marketing with McAfee and possibly spending part of premine earlier than original stated
4. the main devs anonymity
5. the opening of source to outside audit
6. the forming of a foundation
7. adding Dero to new exchanges


Capt has issued statements on issues 4, 5, and 6.  (Personally I don’t care if devs remain anonymous if all other issues are adequately dealt with, but that’s just me.)  If people are not sure to trust his statements, it would be good to go over all past statements on this thread - *his* statements and not Serena’s and Mojo’s - to evaluate the likelihood of his honouring his commitments in these two regards.  Note that a significant portion of what people complained about when they complained about the project not meeting goals were based on Serena and Mojo’s statements as community managers/moderators, and not Capt’s statements directly.  All that needs to be parsed out.

Regarding 1, 2 and 3, I think we should collectively ask him for some sort of statement on these matters.  Perhaps this is a matter for the DCAB.  Magicsmoker is active here on this thread and is a member of DCAB; perhaps he would like to comment on this?  Regarding 1, Capt has made some efforts to show that premine is intact (as of 12 July I think) but this doesn’t really go far enough; a more robust method of verifying that premine is intact is needed than a dated screenshot, and also some sort of statement about the future locking of stages of the premine as we originally conceived (even if an official statement to the effect that premine will remain unlocked for whatever reasons).

Regarding 7, I think it is too early to worry about this.  We need to wait until other issues are resolved.

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July 16, 2018, 04:31:08 PM
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For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.




Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.

Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF

DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.


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Dero Technology: External Developer's Review

Call out to developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to review the Dero Atlantis source code and cryptography.

Venue: https://discord.gg/GmDgjkD
Start Date: 20 July 2018
Start Time: 05:00 UTC
Duration: Ongoing
Instructions: On entry, please notify the moderators/DCAB members that you would like access to the Source Code AMA. You may be required to provide verification that you are a core developer of a cryptocurrency/blockchain project. No personal data is needed. You are encouraged to request for entry at your earliest convenience before or on 20 July 2018.

We are excited to announce that Dero is ready for it's external audit and review of it's technology, and we are inviting core developers of cryptocurrency and blockchain projects to be a part of the process! If you are a cryptography expert, academic researchers not involved to any cryptocurrency or blockchain project, you are also welcome to request for access but you will be required to prove your identity, background and/or prior work.

Dero is an exciting new project that combines the powerful privacy features of the Cryptonote protocol with the fast transactional speeds from the Directed Acyclic Graph protocol. Rewritten from the ground up in Golang, Dero is also the first blockchain to have complete SSL in the P2P layer.

Among it's other features at the time of writing:

the zero-knowledge proof protocol Bulletproofs Ring Signature; and
75 transactions per second on native blockchain.
There are many more features to be added in the future, but the scope of this session will solely be for the purposes of reviewing the unique implementation of the network and cryptography. We fully welcome your questions and candor during the session and hope that it would be a productive event for everyone.

The session will be take place in a private channel in our Discord chatroom, and the session will be archived and made available to the public domain for the cryptocurrency/blockchain community. Do not re-distribute the version of source code received. A publicly available version of the source code will be released at a later date.

From members of the Dero Community Advisory Board (DCAB)

DERO - Secure. Private. Smart Contracts.
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July 16, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?
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July 16, 2018, 06:37:23 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

DERO - Secure. Private. Smart Contracts.
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

this remains to be proved
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July 16, 2018, 07:20:18 PM
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To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

this remains to be proved
no need for any prove, we all knew this fact. There were several times when captain was traveling, the codev fix bugs and introduce new functions,.
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July 16, 2018, 07:50:05 PM
 #3820

For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.


Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.

Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF

DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.


Thanks.

Regards.
Captain

What does that answer? The 3 minutes block time persisted from Helium Hydra, which every other CN coin got it correctly, through the Golang version which you, no changes were ever made there till Atlantis starting block height 95551, and you knew about that issue since Feb, as shown in screenshots

After Atlantis, also as shown in screenshots, you knew the network is generating 14% more emissions and 21% more blocks than intended, while Topoheight to Height difference is way larger than your expected 10-15%, and as you say ALL IS VERIFIABLE yet you ignore every talk of it and brag about other things, that you are still promising to release code for it, which brings me to the following:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33097596#msg33097596
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33883051#msg33883051

To refresh your memory, and I intentionally snipped as well as linked, you have been promising code then delaying since March, days after the release of Golang version.. Not the version that's currently on github (derosuite), the privately written version that you are taking the focus away from it for unknown reasons...

Time over time you promised to release code, and every single time you delay.. Even on Atlantis you told us to tell everyone that it's going to be out after mainnet, then you said you want to give access to cryptographers only but refused every single person who came forward, many who are more experienced than you, also for yet unknown reasons... Then now you promise some devs private access to code, which I have no idea if you will go through with it, conspire with someone to say they did have access, or (most likely) just delay as usual also for unknown reasons..
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