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July 02, 2018, 07:39:45 PM
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Did you see the latest ASIC from Bitmain (Z9 Mini) is an hybrid FPGA / ASIC ?  Roll Eyes

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July 02, 2018, 07:53:13 PM
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Hi, develop team do you still develop DERO now, I think this project has a brilliant idea but lack developer.
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July 02, 2018, 08:26:11 PM
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Hi, develop team do you still develop DERO now, I think this project has a brilliant idea but lack developer.

I'm pretty sure they do continue development (and the devs are very productive from what I've seen): GUI wallets, subaddresses and atomic swaps are all planned for this quarter (plus smart contract testing); and private smart contracts are due to be generally available next quarter. We should also soon see the DERO Foundation set up, the source code released to general availability, and the team beginning to attend conferences and market DERO more widely.

Have a look here for the current state of affairs: https://reddit.com/r/DeroProject/comments/8u8kjm/dero_atlantis_mainnet_officially_released_200x/
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July 03, 2018, 02:31:40 AM
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Hi, develop team do you still develop DERO now, I think this project has a brilliant idea but lack developer.

Haha... Cool story, bro.

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July 03, 2018, 12:40:49 PM
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I understand the desire to defend something you are emotionally/financially invested in, but if you are turning a blind eye to all of the problems that have transpired over the last 2 weeks then you are actually doing the project a disservice. No one is ever 100% right, 100% of the time, and that includes the DERO team. Dismissing questions or complaints as FUD is easy; coming up with well-reasoned rebuttals is much more difficult, but ultimately more valuable if your goal is to promote, much less improve, DERO.

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July 03, 2018, 04:23:35 PM
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what do you think for the dero vision in the long time?

for me the technological level of the project is very valid, but the dero team should increase its relational compradio to the public.

And any criticism must be welcome, it serves to improve.

I am a holder and I believe in the project, but the shot must be corrected. Dev work a code, pr and marketing manager work with the peolple Wink


I understand the desire to defend something you are emotionally/financially invested in, but if you are turning a blind eye to all of the problems that have transpired over the last 2 weeks then you are actually doing the project a disservice. No one is ever 100% right, 100% of the time, and that includes the DERO team. Dismissing questions or complaints as FUD is easy; coming up with well-reasoned rebuttals is much more difficult, but ultimately more valuable if your goal is to promote, much less improve, DERO.


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July 04, 2018, 12:51:40 AM
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I understand the desire to defend something you are emotionally/financially invested in, but if you are turning a blind eye to all of the problems that have transpired over the last 2 weeks then you are actually doing the project a disservice. No one is ever 100% right, 100% of the time, and that includes the DERO team. Dismissing questions or complaints as FUD is easy; coming up with well-reasoned rebuttals is much more difficult, but ultimately more valuable if your goal is to promote, much less improve, DERO.



Reasonable defenses can only be repeated so many times. Dero will be fine whether or not this FUD spree continues. Other cryptonote projects are getting attacked and becoming stale. The fact is, time will tell and this project is very much in it's infancy. Other projects are now becoming older and frail in comparison. Open invitations to attack the network never closed and it's still running along without hiccups. Defending an investment and reading between the lines should not be confused with one another.


Edit: "lack developer" is total FUD, BTW.

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July 04, 2018, 03:31:44 AM
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When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

1) DERO abruptly decided to embrace ASICs after months of claiming it would do the opposite, alienating many long time supporters.

2) Some of most public-facing members of the DERO team - community manager --Serena-- and "unspecified role" team member Mojo - have attacked or banned anyone on the DERO Discord and Slack channels who questioned the above decision, much less argued against it. Granted, some of those people were getting tiresome and others were less-than-respectful, but I daresay that part of the job description for community manager is dealing with the angry and upset, and one should be especially sympathetic when there is a very valid reason for that anger (see reason 1).

3) The source code was supposed to be part of the Atlantis release, but it was delayed by "a few days" so that people with a masters or doctorate in cryptography could evaluate it for bugs/exploits; then it was delayed for a month or more so the DERO Foundation can be set up in Malta or Croatia or whatever.

4) Many Q2/18 goals - like the GUI wallet - were shifted to Q3/18, though to be fair, they did dramatically accelerate the development of Atlantis; then again, the reason for that was to fork off ASICs (see reason 1 again).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.

Totally agree, they promise something and after all the support a lot menbers of this community gave to them, they just prove themselves to run a project with a lack of planning. And that they are not willing to accomplish what do they offer. Is interesting I used to check this thread every day, after the lies of Atlantis anti asic algo I still try to believe in the project, but every time I came here something have change.

Now they do not release the code as they promise, and are thinking in a foundation, so they just did it once again.

The real problem is that people of this community put o lot of money and time on this and the 3 team members of DERO are making money thought people who just expect that they be more professionals accomplish what do they have promises to this comunity. And the unique answer to that they love to say come back when you feel comfortable. Is evident a lot of people are not buying this so they are selling they coins, just see the markets the las weeks.
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July 04, 2018, 03:46:29 AM
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The project was launched last year. Apparently to get the coins, they will only have to buy
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July 04, 2018, 04:07:44 AM
Last edit: July 04, 2018, 05:00:43 AM by krypt0id
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When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

1) DERO abruptly decided to embrace ASICs after months of claiming it would do the opposite, alienating many long time supporters.

2) Some of most public-facing members of the DERO team - community manager --Serena-- and "unspecified role" team member Mojo - have attacked or banned anyone on the DERO Discord and Slack channels who questioned the above decision, much less argued against it. Granted, some of those people were getting tiresome and others were less-than-respectful, but I daresay that part of the job description for community manager is dealing with the angry and upset, and one should be especially sympathetic when there is a very valid reason for that anger (see reason 1).

3) The source code was supposed to be part of the Atlantis release, but it was delayed by "a few days" so that people with a masters or doctorate in cryptography could evaluate it for bugs/exploits; then it was delayed for a month or more so the DERO Foundation can be set up in Malta or Croatia or whatever.

4) Many Q2/18 goals - like the GUI wallet - were shifted to Q3/18, though to be fair, they did dramatically accelerate the development of Atlantis; then again, the reason for that was to fork off ASICs (see reason 1 again).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.

Totally agree, they promise something and after all the support a lot menbers of this community gave to them, they just prove themselves to run a project with a lack of planning. And that they are not willing to accomplish what do they offer. Is interesting I used to check this thread every day, after the lies of Atlantis anti asic algo I still try to believe in the project, but every time I came here something have change.

Now they do not release the code as they promise, and are thinking in a foundation, so they just did it once again.

The real problem is that people of this community put o lot of money and time on this and the 3 team members of DERO are making money thought people who just expect that they be more professionals accomplish what do they have promises to this comunity. And the unique answer to that they love to say come back when you feel comfortable. Is evident a lot of people are not buying this so they are selling they coins, just see the markets the las weeks.


I think you need to update your argument if you want it to be effective.

The REAL problem is that I'm running out of ducks to give.

Yes. Ducks. You stay classy, dero.

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July 04, 2018, 05:41:56 AM
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I'm following this project very closely and hope we'll get a decent wallet soon Tongue

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July 04, 2018, 06:01:59 AM
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Pls find attached premine wallet view key: f221cf4f77d11f0061f3e4c9615540cbc2d2d532ac2f08c623d2a72ad0145d702b7e5941737e041 6eebaba30c3c30b517a14db1efa9aa13b119e31c380313603

Premine is intact... Guess maybe the devs aren't dumping... Hmmm.

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July 04, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
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Its the dero wallet for Windows ok now?
I want to buy more coins, and pass the ones
I have on exchange to private wallet.
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July 04, 2018, 06:46:56 AM
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Its the dero wallet for Windows ok now?
I want to buy more coins, and pass the ones
I have on exchange to private wallet.


Yes, the latest version can be found here (http://seeds.dero.io/alpha/) and it uses a numbered menu based CLI.
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July 04, 2018, 01:38:52 PM
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I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit" Grin

Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:

ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?  Grin
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.


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July 04, 2018, 03:06:42 PM
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I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating. Of course the first one I plugged into it was DERO, which was summarily dismissed as, "This is pure shit" Grin

Trying out a few of the other coins I've mined it gave the following results:

ZEN - HODL that shit
MUSIC - This is pure shit
ITNS - Wtf are you doing with this shitcoin?  Grin
TZC - You made a shit decision on this one
UBQ - To cut to the chase, yes, this shit, but not diarrhea.



"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"

Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...
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July 04, 2018, 03:21:55 PM
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I stumbled across this hilarious website that provides quick stats on coins like market cap, price and volume - http://www.doiownashitcoin.com/ - along with a snarky one-sentence rating.

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"ETN - Not bad"
"BCN - HODL!!!"

Apparently, the page itself is a scam after all...


When I just tried plugging in BCN myself the rating it gave me was, "That's some solid shit right there," while for ETN it said, "You chose wisely," so treat its ratings as if they were from a fortune cookie (or a Magic 8-ball, which is how the user I found out about this from - R0mi - described it).

In other words, it's just a bit of fun, not a scam.

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July 04, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
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As ETN roll back to support ASIC, you have to say DERO's decision is wise.
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July 04, 2018, 04:08:19 PM
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Its the dero wallet for Windows ok now?
I want to buy more coins, and pass the ones
I have on exchange to private wallet.


Yes, the latest version can be found here (http://seeds.dero.io/alpha/) and it uses a numbered menu based CLI.

Thank you.
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July 04, 2018, 04:24:41 PM
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DERO GUI wallet in development from scratch, will be extremely light and fast:


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