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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 80913 times)
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June 25, 2018, 04:18:57 AM
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hello guys,
any news about mainnet, DAG swap?

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June 25, 2018, 08:34:16 AM
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So, no DAG + Cryptonote, and certainly no anti-ASIC.

Phew, for a moment there I was actually worried that you amateurs might be the first to incorporate DAG + full anonymity, thankfully you proved me wrong.

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June 25, 2018, 08:39:52 AM
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As I understand correctly, this mainnet will be 3rd Dero blockchain?
I mined Dero in January and didn't use wallet since that time...
Should I do something special to migrate that very old wallet to new mainnet?
Maybe I should migrate it to current blockchain at first?
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June 25, 2018, 09:19:23 AM
Last edit: June 25, 2018, 10:09:02 AM by Abrustetha
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@Mojo, Serena & Captain

odd how i was banned from Discord and Slack for viewing my opinions along with others that you strung along the community with the promise of anti-asic algo.

Whats worse, is that you did it when i went afk, even after we had an adult debate. There was no mud slinging etc, yet because i disagreed with the way you communicated with the community and the way you handled this i get banned?

Interesting. There are words for groups of people who cant take criticism backed by facts.

Whats even more frustrating is that I was one of the first people getting involved with the Dero Project. I stated time and time again how impressed i was with atlantis and the dev work being done.

Even when i criticised you for the way you decieved the community with the anti-asic stance, i still said i was impressed with atlantis and the dev work. and implored you to work on your communication.

what happens? i get banned for calling you out on the truth.

The discussion i was having with Mojo and some others in the slack group was fair, and at no point was anyone ridiculed. Even to the point where others were agreeing that communication was slack.

There was no new info regarding asics and their viability between the time you announced a move to anti-asic algo and the day you decided to stick with old cryptonight algo. Yet you use the asics as an excuse. Stay asic friendly it doesnt matter, what mattered is that you lied to the community about it, all the way up until release.

Trust is thrown around in the crypto space and very rarely earned. You damaged that trust with the community despite the delivery of what is a great achievement, no one is disputing that.

Its scary that you are willing to ban people because you dont like what you see in the mirror. speaks volumes for the character/mentality that exists on the team.

I truly hope we can discuss this properly, as opposed to banning people because they disagree.

I await your response and some justification (factual) as to why people like myself were banned from these channels.
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June 25, 2018, 09:37:55 AM
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So, no DAG + Cryptonote

The DAG + cryptonote goes live on the mainnet before the end of the month guaranteed
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June 25, 2018, 10:13:32 AM
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The DAG + cryptonote goes live on the mainnet before the end of the month guaranteed
Is it the same guarantee as you guaranteed to switch the algo to anti-ASIC ?
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June 25, 2018, 10:25:58 AM
Last edit: June 25, 2018, 11:19:17 AM by MagicSmoker
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@Mojo, Serena & Captain

odd how i was banned from Discord and Slack for viewing my opinions along with others that you strung along the community with the promise of anti-asic algo.
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When @cpmcgrat was banned a few weeks ago I sided with --Serena--, but after getting the 3rd degree from her and Mojo on Slack for I'm still not sure what, and then seeing @h0g0f0g0 was banned from Telegram, and, finally, actually witnessing the conversation that lead up to you being banned on Slack, well, I'm no longer taking the DERO teams side.

@CaptDero - you need to review the actions of Mojo and --Serena-- and then have a talk with them about proper community management. Yes, we should show your team members respect, but your team members better be damn sure we are attacking them and/or being abusive before banning us.

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As for the decision to stick with the original CryptoNight algo for PoW, I understand the reasoning and though it took a few hours, I actually came to agree with it. What I don't agree with - and what many others seem to have a problem with, as well - is how we were very much mislead into believing Atlantis would use a new, ASIC-resistant algo, right up until the announcement that it wouldn't yesterday. Oh, sure, --Serena-- was quite cagey whenever she was asked about ASIC resistance these last few weeks, which might have been a clue there, but the way this decision appeared to occur so abruptly, and without any preface or explanation, has definitely angered many - just look at the collapse in DERO's price over the last 24 hours if you need any more of a hint. Yes, the Atlantis tech is very promising... but so was Betamax, to use one of history's most infamous examples of a superior tech getting shunted aside due to industry collaboration and marketing.

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June 25, 2018, 01:01:07 PM
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Thanks MagicSmoker

I'm pretty sure everyone who witnessed that conversation would agree i wasnt being disrespectful or rude.

strange world we live in hey!
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June 25, 2018, 04:08:48 PM
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What exactly does Dero offer now over say Sumokoin or Ryo?

80% less supply but no Gui wallet?

This coin overnight just turned itself into a pump and dump shitcoin.

The markets will show this in the following days

Much hurt such disappointments

At least the Asics might go elsewhere now Dero is dying.



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June 25, 2018, 04:47:13 PM
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I hope, that if you are not interested  the mining community now,
start doing the best marketing,
so that we do not lose our investment!
thank you
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June 25, 2018, 06:33:50 PM
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You never got banned, and while you were exceptionally rude, we simply pulled you aside and spoke with you. I'm not sure why you would say we banned you when that's factually inaccurate.

Everyone else earned their ban through being crass, disrespectful, and in some cases, a ban came from ranting for more than 10 hours straight in the various channels.

People who take their actions to the edge of what they consider polite, and try to push boundaries should not be surprised when others don't share their perceived boundaries and get banned for being rude. Anyone who has been banned has been bothering multiple people, and I made sure to let them speak for an extended period to air their grievances, but again, there comes a time when 10+ hour rants are no longer helpful.
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June 25, 2018, 07:04:35 PM
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Are you referring to me ranting?

Interesting how you deciphered the questions i was asking as ranting.

I spoke with you on discord. I was told to take it to slack. Which i obliged...there i engaged with mojo and a few others in a civilised debate. Hardly ranting ( when the convo lasted maybe 7mins?)

Then when there is some actual decent interaction with other members in that group i had to go to attend to my family. And while im away i am banned

Not taken to a dm to discuss or anything of the sort.

On multiple occasions even during my debate with fellow members in tge discord and slack channels i voiced how i was impressed with atlantis so far and in general the dev team.

My only issue was around communication.

Its even stranger when other members who were there during the "incidents " cant make out why i was banned either.

Please advise as to what was the reason i was banned.

Did i swear at any team member?
Did i swear at any other community member?
Did i not raise any valid points that were not shared by fellow community members?

I really would just leave this alone but its completely ridiculous to be banned for voicing a shared viewpoint
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June 25, 2018, 07:05:47 PM
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Wonder whats worse (since you're up on a moral high horse) Blatantly lying to people for months costing your biggest supporters time and money.. or being upset for a few hours that you lied to them for months and cost them time and money. You couldn't possibly have handled this worse.
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June 25, 2018, 07:16:07 PM
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When @cpmcgrat was banned a few weeks ago I sided with --Serena--, but after getting the 3rd degree from her and Mojo on Slack for I'm still not sure what, and then seeing @h0g0f0g0 was banned from Telegram, and, finally, actually witnessing the conversation that lead up to you being banned on Slack, well, I'm no longer taking the DERO teams side.

@CaptDero - you need to review the actions of Mojo and --Serena-- and then have a talk with them about proper community management. Yes, we should show your team members respect, but your team members better be damn sure we are attacking them and/or being abusive before banning us.

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As for the decision to stick with the original CryptoNight algo for PoW, I understand the reasoning and though it took a few hours, I actually came to agree with it. What I don't agree with - and what many others seem to have a problem with, as well - is how we were very much mislead into believing Atlantis would use a new, ASIC-resistant algo, right up until the announcement that it wouldn't yesterday. Oh, sure, --Serena-- was quite cagey whenever she was asked about ASIC resistance these last few weeks, which might have been a clue there, but the way this decision appeared to occur so abruptly, and without any preface or explanation, has definitely angered many - just look at the collapse in DERO's price over the last 24 hours if you need any more of a hint. Yes, the Atlantis tech is very promising... but so was Betamax, to use one of history's most infamous examples of a superior tech getting shunted aside due to industry collaboration and marketing.

You never got banned, and while you were exceptionally rude, we simply pulled you aside and spoke with you. I'm not sure why you would say we banned you when that's factually inaccurate.

Everyone else earned their ban through being crass, disrespectful, and in some cases, a ban came from ranting for more than 10 hours straight in the various channels.

People who take their actions to the edge of what they consider polite, and try to push boundaries should not be surprised when others don't share their perceived boundaries and get banned for being rude. Anyone who has been banned has been bothering multiple people, and I made sure to let them speak for an extended period to air their grievances, but again, there comes a time when 10+ hour rants are no longer helpful.

Wait...  MagicSmoker claimed he was banned?  I'm putting the quotes back in there because I'm struggling to see where he said that.
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June 25, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
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When are the Dev's going to show their faces and reveal themselves to the masses?

Every ICO i've seen the Dev's are visible and searchable

It's all a bit too cloak and dagger

How can we trust sneaky Crypto Ghost Dev's who go back on their word at the drop of a hat / a dump of bitcoin?

my heart bleeds to the poor people who bought this up @ 60-70k sats ... buying lies.
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June 25, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
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Every ICO i've seen the Dev's are visible and searchable

There's no ICO or fundraising of any kind done here
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June 25, 2018, 08:12:31 PM
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Every ICO i've seen the Dev's are visible and searchable

There's no ICO or fundraising of any kind done here

That's not what I was getting at, and you avoided the question.

People are still using money in one way or another to gain this crypto whether its the electric bills for mining rigs or buying it off exchanges,

Why so shady?

We have 0 clue who you guys are, until we know it's highly likely this is another scam coin. - Prove me wrong.

Surely after the recent sh1tshow of events you should be more open to your customers.

Peace
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When @cpmcgrat was banned a few weeks ago I sided with --Serena--, but after getting the 3rd degree from her and Mojo on Slack for I'm still not sure what, and then seeing @h0g0f0g0 was banned from Telegram, and, finally, actually witnessing the conversation that lead up to you being banned on Slack, well, I'm no longer taking the DERO teams side.
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You never got banned, and while you were exceptionally rude, we simply pulled you aside and spoke with you. I'm not sure why you would say we banned you when that's factually inaccurate.

What is factually inaccurate is your interpretation of what I wrote, possibly because you replaced my text with, "abcd." Then again, it could be that you chronically misinterpret what people write, perhaps leading you to accuse them of being, "exceptionally rude," for example, when they weren't, or even to banning them from Slack, Discord and Telegram...

I'm not interested in rehashing old slights, real or imagined; what I do want to see is CaptDero take a closer look at what you and Mojo have been up to, because if you keep banning everyone who disagrees with you there soon won't be much of a community left.

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June 25, 2018, 08:25:37 PM
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We have 0 clue who you guys are, until we know it's highly likely this is another scam coin. - Prove me wrong.
There is only 1 guy, CaptDero, who develops Dero soft. He is already a millionaire, as he keeps 2000000 premined coins (look to the block 1).  As the site https://forum.dero.io/ is registered in France, it is likely he is also from France. Serena is from western Canada, she owns a large mining farm and produces untruthful info for the community. There is the 3rd guy, but I did not payed attention on him.
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June 25, 2018, 08:29:05 PM
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We have 0 clue who you guys are, until we know it's highly likely this is another scam coin. - Prove me wrong.
There is only 1 guy, CaptDero, who develops Dero soft. He is already a millionaire, as he keeps 2000000 premined coins (look to the block 1).  As the site https://forum.dero.io/ is registered in France, it is likely he is also from France. Serena is from western Canada, she owns a large mining farm and produces untruthful info for the community. There is the 3rd guy, but I did not payed attention on him.

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