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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 119671 times)
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June 07, 2018, 05:44:07 AM
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It's really nice to know that Dero's goal is to create a unique state of the art blockchain technology with enhanced reliability, privacy, security, usability, and portability by bringing together some of the best proven technologies. With this alone, I think it could be very big help to us.
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June 07, 2018, 06:02:43 AM
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DERO Atlantis Testnet live stats in action.
  With CryptoNote Privacy protocol and more than 50 TPS in action.
http://stats.atlantis.dero.live/

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June 07, 2018, 06:10:02 AM
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DERO Atlantis Testnet live stats in action.
  With CryptoNote Privacy protocol and more than 50 TPS.
http://stats.atlantis.dero.live/


Good news. Anyone can start testing a product or just a project team? It would be interesting.
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June 07, 2018, 06:15:19 AM
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Good news. Anyone can start testing a product or just a project team? It would be interesting.

Anyone can come try the testnet and we will let the stat site software out soon for others to add nodes
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June 07, 2018, 10:44:15 AM
Last edit: June 07, 2018, 10:55:52 AM by MagicSmoker
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...
(Beginner tip: You can tell if your daemon is in sync when the numbers go green)

I added/edited MagicSmoker's reply (thank you very much for that Magic!)

You're welcome, but you might want to put a quote link back to my post so some overzealous plagiarism hunter like me doesn't report it to the mods.  Grin

Now, my comments on the testnet after about a day of messing around with it (posting here since the Slack channel is an unending stream of consciousness which I find incredibly aggravating; hence why I have avoided using it up until yesterday).

1. The daemon could be a bit more explicit about when it has synced with the network, especially since the numbers it displays otherwise suggest it is perpetually behind. Also, be more explicit with what numbers go green, and what the other colors mean (red and yellow, from what I've noticed).

2. The short block time of ~10 seconds has one major downside: very little tolerance of variation in the system time. Currently Atlantis refuses to sync if the system time is off by +/-1 second, which is understandable given the block time of 10 seconds, but it is not terribly practical or robust in the real world, particularly with Windows computers, which the vast majority of people use. The suggested solution is to change the timeserver to pool.ntp.org but this isn't really the source of the problem, rather, it is that Windows only updates the time via the internet every 12 hours by default, and my daemon starts complaining about the time being off after 3-6 hours... I'm definitely not getting up in the middle of the night to manually update my clock and so the only other alternative is to use a paid-for 3rd party timeserver app (as suggested by @fellestreum). Might I suggest that block times be lengthened back to 20 or even 30 seconds so that a couple seconds of mismatch in system clocks doesn't cause such major problems.

3. As for mining, I only managed to get up to around 140H/s with 8 threads on a Ryzen 5 1600 (16MB L3 cache, 16GB system RAM, no overclock). In contrast, this same system does 450-475H/s on CryptoNight-v7 (ie - Monero). So, don't be alarmed if your hashrate seems pathetic. It is, but that seems to be par for the course.

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June 07, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
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No qt wallets ? Whats the block reward ?
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June 07, 2018, 10:48:13 AM
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2million premine is very high. Is there any bounty\airdrop planned from this ?
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June 07, 2018, 11:41:43 AM
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2million premine is very high. Is there any bounty\airdrop planned from this ?


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The first 1 million Dero is block height locked for 4 years straight.
The second 0.5 million Dero is reserved for various activities such as marketing, exchange listings, and other project related costs. This Dero gets unlocked in the follow amounts: 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% each year consecutively.
The third 0.5 million Dero is reserved for research & development. This Dero gets unlocked in the follow amounts: 20%, 20%, 30%, 30% each year consecutively.


big rewards for Dev team, if they do  hard work to make Dero success
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June 07, 2018, 01:24:13 PM
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What about GPU miner for Atlantis ?
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June 07, 2018, 02:44:01 PM
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2. The short block time of ~10 seconds has one major downside: very little tolerance of variation in the system time. Currently Atlantis refuses to sync if the system time is off by +/-1 second, which is understandable given the block time of 10 seconds, but it is not terribly practical or robust in the real world, particularly with Windows computers, which the vast majority of people use. The suggested solution is to change the timeserver to pool.ntp.org but this isn't really the source of the problem, rather, it is that Windows only updates the time via the internet every 12 hours by default, and my daemon starts complaining about the time being off after 3-6 hours... I'm definitely not getting up in the middle of the night to manually update my clock and so the only other alternative is to use a paid-for 3rd party timeserver app (as suggested by @fellestreum).
Try Ridiculously Simple NTP Client, rsNTP download, it syncs every 30 min.
There is a bunch of other third party clients. Or you can potentially change the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\W32Time\Config\UpdateInterval] value in clock ticks on Windows 7 or [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\TimeProviders\NtpClient\SpecialPollInterval] value in seconds on Windows 10. I have not tried the registry keys, you can read up on these if you want.
Windows 10 NTP
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June 07, 2018, 02:50:15 PM
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2million premine is very high. Is there any bounty\airdrop planned from this ?


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The first 1 million Dero is block height locked for 4 years straight.
The second 0.5 million Dero is reserved for various activities such as marketing, exchange listings, and other project related costs. This Dero gets unlocked in the follow amounts: 10%, 20%, 30%, 40% each year consecutively.
The third 0.5 million Dero is reserved for research & development. This Dero gets unlocked in the follow amounts: 20%, 20%, 30%, 30% each year consecutively.


big rewards for Dev team, if they do  hard work to make Dero success

Maybe they will do an airdrop, I dont know.. but its really for dev work, as getting funding these days is either scammy via ico or through hard work after growing their coin
Its better through this way when the team is able to work and show results constantly...
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June 07, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
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I see for its very nice features for this project. With the extraordinary security of making this an extraordinary going forward. Any plans for the future? Promotion, roadmap? 2 million pre-mine is a bitcoins too much, do not you think?
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June 07, 2018, 04:20:15 PM
Last edit: June 07, 2018, 04:45:19 PM by MagicSmoker
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2. The short block time of ~10 seconds has one major downside: very little tolerance of variation in the system time. Currently Atlantis refuses to sync if the system time is off by +/-1 second, which is understandable given the block time of 10 seconds, but it is not terribly practical or robust in the real world, particularly with Windows computers, which the vast majority of people use. The suggested solution is to change the timeserver to pool.ntp.org but this isn't really the source of the problem, rather, it is that Windows only updates the time via the internet every 12 hours by default, and my daemon starts complaining about the time being off after 3-6 hours... I'm definitely not getting up in the middle of the night to manually update my clock and so the only other alternative is to use a paid-for 3rd party timeserver app (as suggested by @fellestreum).
Try Ridiculously Simple NTP Client, rsNTP download, it syncs every 30 min.
There is a bunch of other third party clients. Or you can potentially change the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\W32Time\Config\UpdateInterval] value in clock ticks on Windows 7 or [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\TimeProviders\NtpClient\SpecialPollInterval] value in seconds on Windows 10. I have not tried the registry keys, you can read up on these if you want.
Windows 10 NTP
Windows 7 NTP

Hmm, yes, a poor choice of words on my part to say the "only other alternative" is a paid-for 3rd party timeserver app. Even though I wasn't aware of the other solutions at the time I wrote that post, I should know by now there is always more than one way to skin the proverbial cat when it comes to Windows.

However, I haven't changed my opinion that the current iteration of Atlantis is simply too sensitive to system time mismatches. Unfortunately, with a block time of 9-11 seconds I don't see any way around that without opening up the PoW algo to the sort of timestamp spoofing attacks perpetrated against the Verge network.

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June 07, 2018, 04:25:13 PM
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Hello everyone!

We've added a graph showing the DERODAG on http://stats.atlantis.dero.live/ (thanks ZoZ and Capt!) If you check the site out you can watch the DAG live in action!
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June 07, 2018, 04:33:45 PM
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Work in progress http://stats.atlantis.dero.live/
Learn more about blockchain and DERODAG live.

Thanks Serena, Mojo, Dank, Zoz and many more for their efforts and support.



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June 07, 2018, 07:29:39 PM
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Hi, DEV team, i have an issue in testnet.

Eventhought I alredy sync, and also sync time of windows correctly, this message appear in tesnet while mining

Your system time deviation is more than 2 secs (1.261497317s).
You may experience chain sync issues and/or other side-effects.
If you are mining, your blocks may get rejected.
Please sync your system using NTP software (default availble in all OS).
 eg. ntpdate pool.ntp.org  (for linux/unix)
INFO[3565] Block 808b511c7245daa938e127b825b1fef72f0cfb7b6f55ad941e27b37338c2b288 successfully accepted


Is it normal?

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June 07, 2018, 08:32:42 PM
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Hi, DEV team, i have an issue in testnet.

Eventhought I alredy sync, and also sync time of windows correctly, this message appear in tesnet while mining

Your system time deviation is more than 2 secs (1.261497317s).
You may experience chain sync issues and/or other side-effects.
If you are mining, your blocks may get rejected.
Please sync your system using NTP software (default availble in all OS).
 eg. ntpdate pool.ntp.org  (for linux/unix)
INFO[3565] Block 808b511c7245daa938e127b825b1fef72f0cfb7b6f55ad941e27b37338c2b288 successfully accepted


Is it normal?



1. Create a batch file (eg: time.bat), and put :
Code:
net stop w32time
net start w32time
w32tm /config /syncfromflags:manual /manualpeerlist:"pool.ntp.org"
w32tm /resync


2. Right-click on the file > Run as Administrator.
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June 07, 2018, 09:04:43 PM
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2.Download the database.db snapshot from http://seeds.dero.io/testnet/blockchain/derod_database.db.zip - and leave it for a few steps


Not Found

The requested URL /testnet/blockchain/derod_database.db.zip was not found on this server.

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June 07, 2018, 09:17:11 PM
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[/quote]

1. Create a batch file (eg: time.bat), and put :
Code:
net stop w32time
net start w32time
w32tm /config /syncfromflags:manual /manualpeerlist:"pool.ntp.org"
w32tm /resync


2. Right-click on the file > Run as Administrator.
[/quote]

Thanks for help, but still do not work, I am using windows 10
Do i have to cancel this command in somehow or not?
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June 07, 2018, 09:32:26 PM
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2.Download the database.db snapshot from http://seeds.dero.io/testnet/blockchain/derod_database.db.zip - and leave it for a few steps


Not Found

The requested URL /testnet/blockchain/derod_database.db.zip was not found on this server.



database file no longer needed as the new test chain is very small/compact - editing post
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