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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 81411 times)
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June 29, 2018, 05:05:49 PM
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Is still cryptonight?  Because im mining and i have 20dero in balance and i have automatically 4dero payout and i didnt receive a thing since 26 of June.

Yes PoW is still cryptonight. Make sure you update your wallet/daemon to latest release and resync to see your incoming payments. If you still don't see your payments afterwards, contact your pool operator please, or contact me on Discord/Slack if you are on official pool


Im mining in stock exchange wallet like before. Maybe they didn't update. Or i will have to generate a new wallet address.
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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June 30, 2018, 03:18:38 AM
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Is still cryptonight?  Because im mining and i have 20dero in balance and i have automatically 4dero payout and i didnt receive a thing since 26 of June.

Yes PoW is still cryptonight. Make sure you update your wallet/daemon to latest release and resync to see your incoming payments. If you still don't see your payments afterwards, contact your pool operator please, or contact me on Discord/Slack if you are on official pool


Im mining in stock exchange wallet like before. Maybe they didn't update. Or i will have to generate a new wallet address.

Is it possible? I thought that mining directly to exchanges wallets could cause coin loss...
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June 30, 2018, 04:41:30 AM
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Is it possible? I thought that mining directly to exchanges wallets could cause coin loss...

We don't recommend mining directly to an exchange, and instead we encourage people to mine to their wallets, and send it to the exchanges from there.
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June 30, 2018, 05:50:50 PM
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mining is not working for me. It works with only 3 H/s (wtf?).. wallet stands on 0/0


Code:
goroutine 216 [running]:
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*freelist).free(0xc4202de120, 0x58e4f, 0x7f05f882e000)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/freelist.go:143 +0x449
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*node).spill(0xc42032a1c0, 0xc42013eb40, 0x859a40)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/node.go:363 +0x1fa
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*node).spill(0xc42032a150, 0xc42013eb20, 0x859a40)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/node.go:350 +0xbf
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*node).spill(0xc42032a0e0, 0xc42013eb00, 0x859a40)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/node.go:350 +0xbf
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*node).spill(0xc42032a070, 0xc4202de810, 0xc420473400)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/node.go:350 +0xbf
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*Bucket).spill(0xc4202a4880, 0xc4202de700, 0xc420473678)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/bucket.go:568 +0x4b8
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*Bucket).spill(0xc4202a4840, 0xc4202de700, 0xc4204738f0)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/bucket.go:535 +0x3f9
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*Bucket).spill(0xc4202fc0f8, 0x321764e1b6, 0xa63e20)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/bucket.go:535 +0x3f9
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*Tx).Commit(0xc4202fc0e0, 0x0, 0x0)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/tx.go:160 +0x11c
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt.(*DB).Update(0xc42030e000, 0xc4202c2b48, 0x0, 0x0)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/vendor/github.com/coreos/bbolt/db.go:679 +0xe8
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi.(*Wallet).store_key_value(0xc42030a000, 0x9ddd00, 0x13, 0x13, 0xc420454de0, 0xb, 0x10, 0xc420454dd8, 0x8, 0x8, ...)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi/db.go:503 +0x2ed
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi.(*Wallet).Add_Possible_Ring_Member(0xc42030a000, 0xc420285200)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi/wallet.go:655 +0x2c5
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi.(*Wallet).Add_Transaction_Record_Funds(0xc42030a000, 0xc420285200, 0x0, 0x457000)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi/wallet.go:330 +0x109
github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi.(*Wallet).Sync_Wallet_With_Daemon.func2(0xc42030a000, 0xc420285200, 0xc4202b8000)
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi/daemon_communication.go:335 +0x35
created by github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi.(*Wallet).Sync_Wallet_With_Daemon
/home/batman/godero/src/github.com/deroproject/derosuite/walletapi/daemon_communication.go:334 +0x5d7
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July 01, 2018, 06:46:55 AM
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dero.fairhash.org

Transparent Dero pool with 24/7 support

Features:

- Mining to exchange

- Workers

- Adjustable instant payout levels

- Email and telegram notifications

- SSL

Payouts to local wallets are running. Until all exchanges are open, exchange payouts are manual. Please contact us.
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July 01, 2018, 06:50:13 AM
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The DERO project is really interesting and intriguing in that it will be able to create a unique modern blockchain technology with increased reliability, confidentiality, security, ease of use and portability
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July 01, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
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Project is realy interesting and price is very good for buy a big bag. I belive that DERO can do big things  Smiley
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July 01, 2018, 08:51:22 AM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?


By the way, this is one of the reasons that the token is not yet bought on the observation sheet. When the deadlines are broken, then this is a very bad sign of a normal project, it always does everything within its terms.
For me it is fundamentally.
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July 01, 2018, 11:58:18 AM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?


By the way, this is one of the reasons that the token is not yet bought on the observation sheet. When the deadlines are broken, then this is a very bad sign of a normal project, it always does everything within its terms.
For me it is fundamentally.

They need to build a public structure first before releasing a Open Source code without NDA. Going Open Source doesn't mean free to reproduce/fork or free to use without authorization. 
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July 01, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
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When will the source code be released? All I ever hear is "in a few days". But the devs said the same thing after atlantis and it turned out to take nearly a month before it was pushed to mainnet. Can we actually expect it to be "in a few days" or not?


By the way, this is one of the reasons that the token is not yet bought on the observation sheet. When the deadlines are broken, then this is a very bad sign of a normal project, it always does everything within its terms.
For me it is fundamentally.

They need to build a public structure first before releasing a Open Source code without NDA. Going Open Source doesn't mean free to reproduce/fork or free to use without authorization. 

Understood then we all just have to watch and wait for what will happen next. I think they should still be more open and follow what they promise and then they will succeed.
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July 01, 2018, 09:28:59 PM
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I thought I bought at the bottom, but got a second bottom as a gift  Smiley
I liked this coin because of the opposite trend with respect to other coins. When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?
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July 01, 2018, 09:54:12 PM
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I thought I bought at the bottom, but got a second bottom as a gift  Smiley
I liked this coin because of the opposite trend with respect to other coins. When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

Last time I explained the price drop i got banned from their discord so probably gonna go unanswered lol

Long term i'm still bullish though (if they can successfully implement smart contracts and their source code checks out when its finally released)
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July 01, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
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I thought I bought at the bottom, but got a second bottom as a gift  Smiley
I liked this coin because of the opposite trend with respect to other coins. When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

For about 3 months they banged on about going anti Asics with the Atlantis algo/s release then at the last minute dropped it.





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July 01, 2018, 10:11:24 PM
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When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

1) DERO abruptly decided to embrace ASICs after months of claiming it would do the opposite, alienating many long time supporters.

2) Some of most public-facing members of the DERO team - community manager --Serena-- and "unspecified role" team member Mojo - have attacked or banned anyone on the DERO Discord and Slack channels who questioned the above decision, much less argued against it. Granted, some of those people were getting tiresome and others were less-than-respectful, but I daresay that part of the job description for community manager is dealing with the angry and upset, and one should be especially sympathetic when there is a very valid reason for that anger (see reason 1).

3) The source code was supposed to be part of the Atlantis release, but it was delayed by "a few days" so that people with a masters or doctorate in cryptography could evaluate it for bugs/exploits; then it was delayed for a month or more so the DERO Foundation can be set up in Malta or Croatia or whatever.

4) Many Q2/18 goals - like the GUI wallet - were shifted to Q3/18, though to be fair, they did dramatically accelerate the development of Atlantis; then again, the reason for that was to fork off ASICs (see reason 1 again).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.
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July 01, 2018, 11:39:44 PM
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When earlier everything fell in price, this coin was growing upwards. Unfortunately now it is obvious that something is going wrong ... What happened? Why did people start selling their coins?

1) DERO abruptly decided to embrace ASICs after months of claiming it would do the opposite, alienating many long time supporters.

2) Some of most public-facing members of the DERO team - community manager --Serena-- and "unspecified role" team member Mojo - have attacked or banned anyone on the DERO Discord and Slack channels who questioned the above decision, much less argued against it. Granted, some of those people were getting tiresome and others were less-than-respectful, but I daresay that part of the job description for community manager is dealing with the angry and upset, and one should be especially sympathetic when there is a very valid reason for that anger (see reason 1).

3) The source code was supposed to be part of the Atlantis release, but it was delayed by "a few days" so that people with a masters or doctorate in cryptography could evaluate it for bugs/exploits; then it was delayed for a month or more so the DERO Foundation can be set up in Malta or Croatia or whatever.

4) Many Q2/18 goals - like the GUI wallet - were shifted to Q3/18, though to be fair, they did dramatically accelerate the development of Atlantis; then again, the reason for that was to fork off ASICs (see reason 1 again).

I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.

Then we can only hope that they will take into account the current situation and perhaps something will change. It's sad, but I was counting on a medium-term prospect and eventually became an investor. So far I will not sell my coins, maybe the team will show its potential in the near future.

And I think this project needs another exchange, since the commissions are large enough to move coins between other exchanges.
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July 02, 2018, 08:24:16 AM
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If I understand correctly a new blockchain for Dero has just been released? Could someone please sum up details and implications?

The new blockchain changes from the old traditional PoW blockchain, to a new custom DAG-PoW blockchain.

This has enabled extremely fast block times, currently averaging around 10 seconds, with much increased tps capabilities, i think it was somewhere around 500 something, and is scalable based on resources.

It has implemented bulletproofs to reduce transaction sizes.

Increased resistance to attacks, supposedly truly eliminated double spending, shadow addresses, and eliminated orphan blocks.

I mean, it's one of the biggest upgrades in all of crypto right now and nobody knows about it lol, and others well they're too busy getting worked up over the ASIC resistance debate.

I am very intrigued indeed. If I understand it correctly it's basically the only project out there with a PoW mineable DAG blockchain... or are there other ones already?

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July 02, 2018, 09:30:50 AM
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Zencash (ZEN) gonna upgrade to a BlockDAG paradigm too but with SEPCTRE protocol (but doesn't support Smart Contract you need a second layer for that) but not before Q1 2019.

Currently you have 3 Generation of PoW BlockDAG ( provide no orphan block so it's totally imune to 51% attack):
- SPECTRE ( gen1, fast but doesn't support smart contract )
- PHANTOM ( gen2, support smart contract but lost some speed compared to gen1 )
- DERO-DAG ( My guess : is SPECTRE combined to PHANTOM in a certain way to bring fast settlement, ordered block and Smart Contract )

Currently DERO-DAG is the latest decentralized tech out there right now about scalability and fast settlement in only one layer Shocked
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July 02, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: good technology - even the best technology - won't save you if you alienate your supporters and flake out on most of your goals, promises and commitments.

You've got your point right, even I may understand the reasons pointed to keep ASIC friendly, but the feeling that I was deceived has not yet passed....

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July 02, 2018, 10:56:33 AM
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A bit dumb question
Last 2 months was not paying attention to Dero project... so can I simply get new binaries, start it and point to my wallet?
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A bit dumb question
Last 2 months was not paying attention to Dero project... so can I simply get new binaries, start it and point to my wallet?
:/

Not quite. You do need to get new binaries from http://seeds.dero.io/atlantis/ (no difference between the plainly named versions and the ones with atlantis in the name), but the database format is different so either sync from 0 or else download a snapshot from the /blockchain folder. Next you will need to recreate your wallet by restoring from seed (use the save seed command in the old wallet if you haven't already done so for backup purposes then use the restore from seed command in the new wallet after the daemon finishes syncing).

Note there is a bug in the Windows binaries that (sometimes? always?) adds an "m" to the beginning of the first word in the seed, so correct if necessary.

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