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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 119864 times)
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July 16, 2018, 11:54:42 PM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?

Please learn about the software -- a view wallet shows only incoming transactions.
captain send the premine back to the same address 3days ago, just to let guys like you shut up.
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July 17, 2018, 12:03:43 AM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?

Please learn about the software -- a view wallet shows only incoming transactions.
captain send the premine back to the same address 3days ago, just to let guys like you shut up.

It is proof of nothing. If he sent it to the same wallet, where is the outgoing transaction? You can't see it.

All you have is faith, no proof.
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July 17, 2018, 12:04:23 AM
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another asshole... mojo and serena have many accounts or many slaves...

good for them. i would like to know how much they pay for all this shit



To CaptDero,
It is sad to know two core members will leave.
Will you continue to develop DERO by you own?

Serena and mojo were not developers, they were community managers. There are still 3 devs.

Prove it.

So what was Mojo's role if not dev?

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July 17, 2018, 12:25:47 AM
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Whatever happened, as a group the whole Selina and Mojo thing should have been kept internal.  IMO just looks bad on them.  Beyond any reasoning for it should definitely not show internal communication publicly like that. 

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July 17, 2018, 01:13:53 AM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?

Please learn about the software -- a view wallet shows only incoming transactions.
captain send the premine back to the same address 3days ago, just to let guys like you shut up.

It is proof of nothing. If he sent it to the same wallet, where is the outgoing transaction? You can't see it.

All you have is faith, no proof.
if the premine is used, there will be not enough dero to send to this address, no matter where it comes from.
you choose to ignore the truth that premine is intact, I don't need to explain anymore.

BTW,that's how the  team prove the premined is intact and the initial messaged was published by Mojo.Even Mojo&Serena never said the premine is spent.

Save your ass.
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July 17, 2018, 01:31:34 AM
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about that, the real problem is that the premine was locked before, then with atlantis it was unlocked but Captain is omitted to report it to the community, as if it did not matter...
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July 17, 2018, 01:34:52 AM
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about that, the real problem is that the premine was locked before, then with atlantis it was unlocked but Captain is omitted to report it to the community, as if it did not matter...

Forgot to switch accounts, mojo?

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July 17, 2018, 02:09:32 AM
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about that, the real problem is that the premine was locked before, then with atlantis it was unlocked but Captain is omitted to report it to the community, as if it did not matter...
premine is locked at $5 with huge liquid and unlocked at $0.6  with 2btc/day liquid for dump,smart move.
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July 17, 2018, 02:57:40 AM
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Captain your patience is amazing. You never spoke a single negative word against this two self-proclaimed morons on any channel.
He made up multiple lies about our goals, and intentions which we verified were lies by him. A good example is him lying by saying we asked for part of the dero foundation, which is clearly not true based on the screenshots I provided. When he saw he was caught lying, he completely acted as though it had never happened. So, I wonder, how is slander appropriate when we've been able to prove everything we've said? Slander is false statements, like Captain's, our statements however have all been backed up with proof.
Only true professional can demonstrate such behavior and keep calm.
Discord users enjoyed the show how serena was literally begging community to take her back to the same community she used to ban and hate for no reason.
Why don't you ask Fishbulb why he got banned within a few minutes of Captain being online for politely voicing his opinion. This opinion whether right or wrong was in support of us at a time when Captain was clearly carrying on with his extremely and still ongoing deceptive behavior with the community.
serena is the same person who used to spread hatred on 4chan. She was back stabbing dero since beginning.
4chan comes up all the time when you're using index crawlers to find recent chats, but no, I don't spend any time on 4chan posting. I do learn some... interesting new words when I read the comments, and it gives me an idea what people might say when they feel comfortable to do so anonymously and away from the official social channels of dero.






people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.
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July 17, 2018, 03:10:17 AM
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Just answer my question :
1.where is  the scam?make sure you understand the difference between a tech bug and scam.
2.had captain dump the ppremine,or sold even one single dero from  premine?
3.who  got rich during this scam? By scam whose Money.

1. Just one example: lying for months on this thread about the premine being locked. That is not a tech bug.
2. Nobody knows. Nobody sees what has gone out of the wallet, except captain, and he does not show it.
3. It is not possible to know, since the premine was never locked, and since the code is closed.

the viewkey for premine wallet is public, DYOR before say anything.
And after the code release, will u just shut up?

Please learn about the software -- a view wallet shows only incoming transactions.
captain send the premine back to the same address 3days ago, just to let guys like you shut up.

It is proof of nothing. If he sent it to the same wallet, where is the outgoing transaction? You can't see it.

All you have is faith, no proof.
if the premine is used, there will be not enough dero to send to this address, no matter where it comes from.
you choose to ignore the truth that premine is intact, I don't need to explain anymore.

BTW,that's how the  team prove the premined is intact and the initial messaged was published by Mojo.Even Mojo&Serena never said the premine is spent.

Save your ass.

You cannot know that, because you have not the sources.
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July 17, 2018, 03:17:47 AM
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as a holder of Dero and someone that has been following all the drama and fud attempts and i must say that after reading many of the posts here im not worried not even a little bit.
most important i must thank Captain D for all his hard work and great project.

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July 17, 2018, 03:31:14 AM
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For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.




Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.



DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.



Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF
Thanks.

Regards.
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July 17, 2018, 05:50:04 AM
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about that, the real problem is that the premine was locked before, then with atlantis it was unlocked but Captain is omitted to report it to the community, as if it did not matter...

Forgot to switch accounts, mojo?

Seriously? Ran out of useless responses and now accusing every post you don't like as "Mojo or Serena" ?

We provided facts, answer with facts
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July 17, 2018, 05:53:21 AM
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For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.


Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.



DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.



Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF
Thanks.

Regards.
Captain

Still hoping spamming unrelated things would make people move on?  Here's what's going to happen, every time you post useless things, I'll repost what I posted earlier


For first four months dero network was running on Monero Helium-Hydra code fork, it is opensource and still on github https://github.com/deroproject/dero
DERO network was running good with opensource Monero code till there was attack on several CryptoNote networks. By that time we had partially written Golang code and few of the nodes were migrated to new dero GOLANG code and those nodes were secure and protected from time-warp attacks and thousands of block were mined in few hours but DERO new Golang code refused to accept those blocks. In hurry we migrated all nodes on Golang code. DERO exchanges were down for long as we didn't have any rpc-interface written in Golang-code due to emergency migration .
Till then we already realized its impossible to stop 51% and double attacks with existing blockchain technology. So we decided and wrote Atlantis with DERO DAG.

For details of attack pls see ,its already on forum https://forum.dero.io/t/bizarre-behavior-of-the-official-pool-statistics/357
Also anyone can go through this ANN thread to refresh memories and details.


Every real CryptoNote devs know each coin generated on CryptoNote protocol is audit-able even after years.

Pls feel free to discuss with me something good and technical on discord: https://discord.gg/aQcphjF

DERO Facts : First blockchain to have: DeroDAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + Complete SSL + POW. Blocktime 12 secs + Confirmation times 2 mins.


Thanks.

Regards.
Captain

What does that answer? The 3 minutes block time persisted from Helium Hydra, which every other CN coin got it correctly, through the Golang version which you, no changes were ever made there till Atlantis starting block height 95551, and you knew about that issue since Feb, as shown in screenshots

After Atlantis, also as shown in screenshots, you knew the network is generating 14% more emissions and 21% more blocks than intended, while Topoheight to Height difference is way larger than your expected 10-15%, and as you say ALL IS VERIFIABLE yet you ignore every talk of it and brag about other things, that you are still promising to release code for it, which brings me to the following:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33097596#msg33097596
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.msg33883051#msg33883051

To refresh your memory, and I intentionally snipped as well as linked, you have been promising code then delaying since March, days after the release of Golang version.. Not the version that's currently on github (derosuite), the privately written version that you are taking the focus away from it for unknown reasons...

Time over time you promised to release code, and every single time you delay.. Even on Atlantis you told us to tell everyone that it's going to be out after mainnet, then you said you want to give access to cryptographers only but refused every single person who came forward, many who are more experienced than you, also for yet unknown reasons... Then now you promise some devs private access to code, which I have no idea if you will go through with it, conspire with someone to say they did have access, or (most likely) just delay as usual also for unknown reasons..
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people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.

Can you provide more details about how you think the code?
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people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.

Can you provide more details about how you think the code?

He talk probably about what is on github publicly available, the port of cryptonote. (An early version of Dero V1)

This guy is a joke he compare CryptoNote protocol to Nano, Blokchain tech to a DAG tech... Apple to Banana.

Captain is a technical guy so he doesn't care about hype or price to the moon, so if price goes up or go down it's the same thing... and for now DERO isn't ready (We are still in alpha stage with no use case for now), Serena tried to push some marketing through twitter and now you see the result.

Keep in mind : this project hadn't any ICO and DERO IS STILL AN EXPERIMENTATION.
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July 17, 2018, 10:10:11 AM
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There's at least one excellent use-case: a far better Monero...
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July 17, 2018, 10:48:46 AM
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Captain your patience is amazing. You never spoke a single negative word against this two self-proclaimed morons on any channel.
He made up multiple lies about our goals, and intentions which we verified were lies by him. A good example is him lying by saying we asked for part of the dero foundation, which is clearly not true based on the screenshots I provided. When he saw he was caught lying, he completely acted as though it had never happened. So, I wonder, how is slander appropriate when we've been able to prove everything we've said? Slander is false statements, like Captain's, our statements however have all been backed up with proof.
Only true professional can demonstrate such behavior and keep calm.
Discord users enjoyed the show how serena was literally begging community to take her back to the same community she used to ban and hate for no reason.
Why don't you ask Fishbulb why he got banned within a few minutes of Captain being online for politely voicing his opinion. This opinion whether right or wrong was in support of us at a time when Captain was clearly carrying on with his extremely and still ongoing deceptive behavior with the community.
serena is the same person who used to spread hatred on 4chan. She was back stabbing dero since beginning.
4chan comes up all the time when you're using index crawlers to find recent chats, but no, I don't spend any time on 4chan posting. I do learn some... interesting new words when I read the comments, and it gives me an idea what people might say when they feel comfortable to do so anonymously and away from the official social channels of dero.







people are blind, let it go, move on. Let people fuck themselves over. Anyone that is holding is going to hold because they don't understand blockchain or crypto. They blindly trust a man they don't know, a man that has lied multiple times. A man that does not come out to refute anything because he cant. The people you are arguing with have no valid points. They blindly follow this project and say they have complete trust in the Captain and the tech. The captain they have rarely talked to, yet alone met, and tech they haven't seen... I checked the source code of what is available. It's nothing I've never seen done. Nano's code is far more impressive.  Let them lose their holdings... You already did your part. Dero will become obsolete because Nix Platform will make this tech useless so it doesn't matter if it is a scam or not anymore.



this is just another asshole that has nothing to do.... paid to spread bullshit....

man u also with serena and mojo go fuck urself.

on github there is not the code of atlantis DAG... did u compare nano with what? are u retarded?


OK MOVE ON.... WHO IS NEXT?

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July 17, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
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Can anyone tell me the fastest way to sync the command line daemon with the network. It has taken close to 1 day and i am still at 88000

DERO: 88710/88710 [240533/309552] P 13 TXp 0 NW 1 H/s >>>

I have tried importing http://seeds.dero.io/atlantis/atlantisDB/derod_database.db but that too starts around 90000 odd, so with this speed it will still take days.
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July 17, 2018, 03:48:58 PM
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Can anyone tell me the fastest way to sync the command line daemon with the network. It has taken close to 1 day and i am still at 88000

DERO: 88710/88710 [240533/309552] P 13 TXp 0 NW 1 H/s >>>

I have tried importing http://seeds.dero.io/atlantis/atlantisDB/derod_database.db but that too starts around 90000 odd, so with this speed it will still take days.

I think you forgot to place derod_database.db in mainnet folder( mainnet/derod_database.db). Alsi it should start with 95550.
Sync speed depends on your network/CPU. It is very fast on SSD.  In next update sync speed will increase  20-40% due to several optimizations.
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