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Author Topic: [ANN] DERO: DAG + Cryptonote + Bulletproofs + SSL + POW + Smart Contracts  (Read 121206 times)
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May 31, 2018, 10:29:41 AM
Last edit: May 31, 2018, 02:14:10 PM by MagicSmoker
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Forget about smart contracts for another year or 2. ETH is being ruined by bad smart contracts for scam ICOs.

What I see here that is very promising is SSL encryption between nodes. Hard to believe that wasn't done before, because cleartext protocol is a huge vulnerability and privacy concern. The web implemented HTTPS ten+ years ago.

Yeah, I also think SSL encryption is the most noteworthy achievement, and it is difficult to believe it hadn't been done yet. You also make an interesting point about smart contracts being used to make scammy ICOs on ETH being it's real problem. I suspect the rapid increase in regulatory scrutiny on ICOs (at least in the US) will curb those abuses, which might make it safer for the second generation of smart contract platforms to launch*. Or it could be a total train wreck... That's crypto for you.


* - the old saw, "you can always tell the pioneers: they are the ones face down in the mud with arrows in their backs," seems to apply here.

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May 31, 2018, 10:34:19 AM
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how do I create A Deko address wallet if I have a laptop and asic? When will the web version of the wallet? the pools do not support exchange wallets?

https://forum.dero.io/t/create-restore-dero-wallet-in-one-minute/110
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May 31, 2018, 10:44:10 AM
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how do I create A Deko address wallet if I have a laptop and asic? When will the web version of the wallet? the pools do not support exchange wallets?

https://forum.dero.io/t/create-restore-dero-wallet-in-one-minute/110

olny CLI ?  Dero have  GUI WALLET?
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May 31, 2018, 11:38:09 AM
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olny CLI ?  Dero have  GUI WALLET?

No GUI wallet for DERO. It's kind of incredible that someone would buy an ASIC and not know how to set up a CLI wallet... You didn't do much research before you bought that thing, did you?

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May 31, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
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Hey people i AM new here.
I have not read the 160 Pages.
I have an rig with 6 x rx570
Does the dero Atlantis Will be anti asic?
I'm on This for long term, like i did with ether
But i still have to pay electricy Bill. Mining dero its not good for me now with the ASICS.
Thanks
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May 31, 2018, 02:19:33 PM
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Does the dero Atlantis Will be anti asic?
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Unknown, but seems likely since the POW algo had to change to achieve the transaction speeds our wily ol' Cap'n is claiming. That said, I imagine it is tough to give up the apparent affirmation of >1GH/s on your network, but it really would be for the best long term. I am ready to switch my pokey little 4x RX 560 rig back to DERO as soon as the ASICs get booted off, but right now it would be supremely stupid for me to attempt to mine it (I wouldn't even earn 1 DERO per month...).

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Does the dero Atlantis Will be anti asic?
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Unknown, but seems likely since the POW algo had to change to achieve the transaction speeds our wily ol' Cap'n is claiming. That said, I imagine it is tough to give up the apparent affirmation of >1GH/s on your network, but it really would be for the best long term. I am ready to switch my pokey little 4x RX 560 rig back to DERO as soon as the ASICs get booted off, but right now it would be supremely stupid for me to attempt to mine it (I wouldn't even earn 1 DERO per month...).



Exactly my situation. But i love the project. At least on paper. Thanks for your Reply.
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May 31, 2018, 08:22:11 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh
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May 31, 2018, 08:26:25 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.

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May 31, 2018, 09:32:25 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.


some link where dev confirms it?
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May 31, 2018, 09:34:36 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.


some link where dev confirms it?

Just read the last dozen pages, it's been asked and confirmed plenty of times.

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May 31, 2018, 10:10:40 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.


some link where dev confirms it?

Just read the last dozen pages, it's been asked and confirmed plenty of times.


I probably overlooked, so you have a concrete link? (from dev)
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May 31, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.


some link where dev confirms it?

Just read the last dozen pages, it's been asked and confirmed plenty of times.


I probably overlooked, so you have a concrete link? (from dev)

If you don't trust somebody else's word than perhaps you should look for yourself next time. It doesn't take much to realize that it will have to be ASIC resistant as the PoW is changing. Since it is a new PoW, there are no ASICs built for it yet.

 I am not going to scour the ANN for you but there are official responses from the team confirming this multiple times. Here is a quote from the April Monthly update.

https://forum.dero.io/t/dero-monthly-update/446

"Specific Updates:

Source code: DERO project source code will be availiable in coming weeks.
POW: POW will be defintely changed to make it more egailtarian in DERO-Atlantis. Few algorithms have been short listed for DERO’s next POW and are under tests to handle scalabilty, verifiabilty, DoS issues etc. Right now there is no change in POW as we are already in process of migration to new blockchain next month."

Now, that statement is from April so don't get confused. What it means is that they had not changed PoW in April because they were going to release the new blockchain with Atlantis.



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June 01, 2018, 12:07:03 AM
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GPU miners to dev:
Dero Atlantis:

ASIC resistant?

plainly: YES/NO

Huh

Not a dev but, it has been stated numerous times. YES, ASIC resistant.


some link where dev confirms it?

Just read the last dozen pages, it's been asked and confirmed plenty of times.


I probably overlooked, so you have a concrete link? (from dev)

If you don't trust somebody else's word than perhaps you should look for yourself next time. It doesn't take much to realize that it will have to be ASIC resistant as the PoW is changing. Since it is a new PoW, there are no ASICs built for it yet.

 I am not going to scour the ANN for you but there are official responses from the team confirming this multiple times. Here is a quote from the April Monthly update.

https://forum.dero.io/t/dero-monthly-update/446

"Specific Updates:

Source code: DERO project source code will be availiable in coming weeks.
POW: POW will be defintely changed to make it more egailtarian in DERO-Atlantis. Few algorithms have been short listed for DERO’s next POW and are under tests to handle scalabilty, verifiabilty, DoS issues etc. Right now there is no change in POW as we are already in process of migration to new blockchain next month."

Now, that statement is from April so don't get confused. What it means is that they had not changed PoW in April because they were going to release the new blockchain with Atlantis.




so only speculation, as often from half of that thread!
I read the forum every day from page 7.
dev never clearly confirmed the resistant asic, nor did it ever appear in the roudmap.
(as with other coins I watch)
Mining Dero I started when it was possible mine a CPU 5 Dero a day.
So I wonder if the original community that Dero supported in the beginnings can will be able to return?!
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June 01, 2018, 12:10:16 AM
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so only speculation, as often from half of that thread!
I read the forum every day from page 7.
dev never clearly confirmed the resistant asic, nor did it ever appear in the roudmap.
(as with other coins I watch)
Mining Dero I started when it was possible mine a CPU 5 Dero a day.
So I wonder if the original community that Dero supported in the beginnings can will be able to return?!

https://deroproject.slack.com/archives/C8GJEC8GP/p1527724823000020
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June 01, 2018, 12:20:13 AM
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so only speculation, as often from half of that thread!
I read the forum every day from page 7.
dev never clearly confirmed the resistant asic, nor did it ever appear in the roudmap.
(as with other coins I watch)
Mining Dero I started when it was possible mine a CPU 5 Dero a day.
So I wonder if the original community that Dero supported in the beginnings can will be able to return?!

https://deroproject.slack.com/archives/C8GJEC8GP/p1527724823000020


I'm not in slack, you can copy this vital announcement here. thank you
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June 01, 2018, 01:31:26 AM
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so only speculation, as often from half of that thread!
I read the forum every day from page 7.
dev never clearly confirmed the resistant asic, nor did it ever appear in the roudmap.
(as with other coins I watch)
Mining Dero I started when it was possible mine a CPU 5 Dero a day.
So I wonder if the original community that Dero supported in the beginnings can will be able to return?!

https://deroproject.slack.com/archives/C8GJEC8GP/p1527724823000020


I'm not in slack, you can copy this vital announcement here. thank you

You are full of crap about actually looking for confirmation on your own.  And I don’t believe u have been following forum since page 7 or you would already have an answer. Stop wasting the communities time.

And as for your last post, stop sounding so entitled. If it’s that important to you get on slack and look for yourself.
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June 01, 2018, 01:35:51 AM
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DERO is a coin project with a bright future. I look forward to its technology and expect it to bring me great rewards and freedom of wealth.
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June 01, 2018, 03:29:42 AM
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so only speculation, as often from half of that thread!
I read the forum every day from page 7.
dev never clearly confirmed the resistant asic, nor did it ever appear in the roudmap.
(as with other coins I watch)
Mining Dero I started when it was possible mine a CPU 5 Dero a day.
So I wonder if the original community that Dero supported in the beginnings can will be able to return?!

https://deroproject.slack.com/archives/C8GJEC8GP/p1527724823000020


I'm not in slack, you can copy this vital announcement here. thank you

You are full of crap about actually looking for confirmation on your own.  And I don’t believe u have been following forum since page 7 or you would already have an answer. Stop wasting the communities time.

And as for your last post, stop sounding so entitled. If it’s that important to you get on slack and look for yourself.

I agree with Shrimby1, the information is being given to you. I have been around since the time that you are claiming you have been around. I can't see how you could be following a project for 6 months and not know the dev's stance on ASICs.

You shouldn't be so dismissive of people when they are offering the information that you are asking for and providing a reference point.

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June 01, 2018, 04:10:37 AM
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The story was like this:

1. When ASICs were anounced by Bitmain, Serena, as a representative of Dero devs, promised to spend her personal 20000$ to buy 3 ASICs to disassemble them in order to understand, how they are functioning and to release ASIC-resistant algo as soon as possible. https://forum.dero.io/t/deros-official-position-on-asics/281

"I will personally drop the $20,000 USD to buy the 3 well advertised ASICs to let our developers literally tear them apart and you can hold me to that."

2. "We are going to combat ASICs don’t worry" (Serena)

https://forum.dero.io/t/deros-official-position-on-asics/281/10

2.  After Monero team switched to Cryptonight-V7, Serena said that it is not a problem to switch to ASIC-resistant algo. They can even generate and switch the algo every few seconds. "Our devs even built an asic-resistant algo generator that can produce hundreds of new algos/second."

But at the same time Serena refused to release a new mining soft, which can mine with this kind changing algo. "We’re not planning to release our own mining program at this time or push our own updates for mining software. The algo generator is possible but it will require more time/resources and our team is currently focused on other things for the time being."

https://forum.dero.io/t/about-anonymous-hashrate-and-pools/343/17

3. Recently Serena said "We have confirmed that we are using a new algorithm that isn't ASIC friendly. ... For now though, we are moving to a brand new algo and it takes quite a while to develop an ASIC for any algo." The possible name of the algo is Dero-DAG ? Note that at the moment the mining soft for this band-new algo does not exist (otherwise it is not a brand-new), and as it is stated just before, there are no plans to release it.

4. The conclusion is that: even if some day (devs never announced the exact date) the Dero will switch to a new Asic-resistant algo, it will be only once, after that Bitmain is welcome to develop a brand new ASIC for it.

"ASIC technology is advancing, and perhaps it's inevitable that mining/network security" (Serena)  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2525508.3120

6. The devs are focused to create "robust, secure, energy efficient and decentralized blockchain network". Note, that ASICs are the most energy efficient devices ever.

https://forum.dero.io/t/creating-robust-secure-energy-efficient-and-decentralized-blockchain-network/405
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